Yeah, it's about as bad of a take as possible.

Yeah let's not forget the Dems won the popular vote by three million (3,000,000) and yet Trump is sitting pretty in the White House. Any talk of "voting in a Blue Wave" without at least strategizing towards abolishing the Electoral College, making DC and Puerto Rico states, making Election Day a national holiday, automatic voter registration federally, etc. rings pretty hollow to me.

Well said. All of that needs to happen. All of that is fair, so it will be fought tooth and nail by the Right. They know they have no way to win a fair election in this country.

I know we're off topic here but I want to expand on this idea because I think it's critically important.

Democrats are going to do well in 2018. In this highly polarized environment, it's a near lock the party out of power will win seats. I'm even bullish they will win by the requisite ~7%+ to win the house, and I think they are favorites to beat Trump in 2020 too.

But then what? Because just as it's a lock that democrats will do well this cycle, it's a lock that republicans will do well again once democrats are in charge.

What happens in the interim while democrats regain some power is really important. My fear is they will again do nothing to combat these systemic imbalances. That they will feel the One True Threat, Trump, has been vanquished and sanity has been restored to the political system, hooray.

And republicans will keep doing their thing, working to tilt the game through gerrymandering, voter supression, judicial nomination ****ery, and whatever other tricks they can get away with. Remember, they control most state governments, and we have a new round of redistricting coming up in a few years. Barring a SCOTUS intervention, it's gonna get worse.

Some of the changes einbert mentioned above are probably not feasible in the short term even with control of both the white house and congress. But some of them are. And there are lots of other ways democrats can fight back for a more even playing field.

If they don't do it, the game will keep tilting further and further away, and eventually even a blue wave won't be enough to win.

Yea, that's not what I said at all. Way to put words in my mouth. Nothing wrong with fighting back and attacking norms, gerrymandering, etc. But there are ways to do it without fighting dirty and stooping to the GOP's level.

Yeah the way to do it is to tell people like you to shut the **** up and do it anyway.

The party is better off just straight up ignoring milquetoast bull**** ideas and calls to civility like those presented by Matty Lice.

The take is dumb, but also flat out wrong. AOC won in part because she is unabashedly outspoken and because she insinuated at every point along the way that the current order leading the Democratic party are corrupt and uninterested in seeking policy that benefits the poor, weak, oppressed, and discriminated.

Nancy Pelosi congratulates the, uh, loser

grunching

GOAT political ad by Ocasio-Cortez:

Woohooo! A couple weeks ago I made a sentimental bet on PredictIt: Crowley to lose for 20 cents/share. Ship it bitches! Now throw that bum's **** out on the street and let AOC get to work!!

Yeah. Who can possibly remember which fly mental breakdowns actually happened and which are being used as a rhetorical device!

in the wake of debates over civility politics and AOC's incredible win, been thinking about this quote a lot from america's favorite misogynist podcast bros, which turned into an absurd mini-scandal last year:

they were right then and they're right now.

Took a long look at the NY-14 boundary today lol. Still a lot of Archie Bunker-y nabes on the fringes of that district. Was surprised to see Trump only 20% pct there tbh.

Have you seen how Schumer and Pelosi have reacted? Those are your clean fighting leaders. Absolute losers.

Why not both? I'm not totally sure what you mean by "how we win" but I'd note that even if every Democrat in the House was an Ocasio-Cortez, 193 is still a lot less than 235, and fighting dirty is a big part of how you change that number.

I never understood that - was it people who didn't watch Game of Thrones thinking they meant women getting on their knees? (or more likely, people who did watch Game of Thrones saying that in totally bad faith)

It should be very easy to get the PRAGMATIC centrist democrats to move further left. Just have to force it.
Bending the knee and giving in to whatever stronger and smarter people want them to do is literally the core of their existenceas human beings.

The playbook for how to coerce and manipulate these morons is there. GOP has been doing it for decades

Yes it was a transparently bad faith thing from the same people who thought that dril tweet about turning into a corncob was homophobic.

I mean, kneeling as supplication to one's lord is not something George RR Martin invented so even if you didn't watch Game of Thrones the sexism accusation was bad faith, the context was clearly about two parties forming a power relationship to work together.

Pelosi looked shook when answering questions about Crowley losing.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-na...ocasio-cortez/

I couldn't be happier. The Democrats need a culture change and people like AOC can bring it.

Maybe a bad take but I would take 200 AOCs in congress over 235 Pelosis. Passion and activism is what drives change. We already saw 100 tea partiers basically play 235 Pelosis to a stalemate in 2010.

Nancy WOAT

Somehow even worse than Hillary

Why would anyone bend the knee to the Chapo dudes? Don't they just snipe from the sidelines and cash massive checks? Did I miss where they're doing something productive?

They're not talking specifically about themselves, but rather the progressive wing of the Democratic party, because the centrists/moderates have proven themselves incapable of winning

OK, well I can get behind that, but we're gonna need some actual leaders in that wing. Hopefully some step up soon.

to give them credit i think they helped move a lot of younger libs left. thats not nothing. look at right wing media has radicalized the right since obama.

nancy and chuck need to go though. paid to ****ing lose.