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12-01-2017, 05:05 PM
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#1301
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veteran
Join Date: Jun 2013
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
Time to change the title - I think House is just going to pass this *****. So long $$$ on predictit. I hate everyone.
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12-01-2017, 05:26 PM
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#1302
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Misreading your post.
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
I can’t fathom having billions of dollars—more money than nearly anyone in the history of civilization had been able to accumulate, enough money that my family would not have to work for several generations, at least—and, yet my primary concern is to force politicians to slash the safety net for millions of people, **** over people who pursue higher education, undermine important institutions, strip health insurance from millions of people do whatever it takes just to accumulate a little more money, relatatively speaking. What sad, despicable humans.The donors pushing this stuff need to be punished.
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12-01-2017, 05:30 PM
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#1303
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Don't Call Me Shirley
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Treating my drinking problem.
Posts: 88,083
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
I thought the parliamentarian nixed the drilling yesterday
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12-01-2017, 05:34 PM
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#1304
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 5,158
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
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Originally Posted by champstark
WAAF, read this whole thread (2+2 needs to let whole thread be embedded)
the tl;dr: voters have absolutely refused to believe politicians would actually do huge tax cuts for the rich on THREE separate occasions in the past 20 years
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Good thread, though I do think some people are starting to wise up. Hopefully enough people to make a difference.
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12-01-2017, 05:44 PM
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#1305
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,734
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
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Originally Posted by JoltinJake
Good thread, though I do think some people are starting to wise up. Hopefully enough people to make a difference.
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Yeah, somehow the GOP have managed to make these tax cuts more unpopular than past tax INCREASES:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ast-tax-hikes/
People aren't fooled by Trump's lies, they just play along with them when it achieves the goals they want anyway, i.e. racism/xenophobia/misogyny for the base and tax cuts for the rich for the donor class.
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12-01-2017, 05:44 PM
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#1306
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 11,016
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
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Originally Posted by Money2Burn
I can’t fathom having billions of dollars—more money than nearly anyone in the history of civilization had been able to accumulate, enough money that my family would not have to work for several generations, at least—and, yet my primary concern is to force politicians to slash the safety net for millions of people, **** over people who pursue higher education, undermine important institutions, strip health insurance from millions of people do whatever it takes just to accumulate a little more money, relatatively speaking. What sad, despicable humans.The donors pushing this stuff need to be punished.
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Eagerly awaiting the NYT "Charles Koch, just like you, eats food and takes ****s" normalization article.
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12-01-2017, 05:53 PM
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#1307
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Slytherin Common Room
Posts: 54,918
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
Corker is a no but doesn't matter because Collins is going to **** the bed and vote yes
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12-01-2017, 06:29 PM
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#1308
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veteran
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 2,372
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
So is this the bill that's going to make filing my tax return as easy as filling out the back of a post card?
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12-01-2017, 06:54 PM
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#1309
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King Emeritus
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: De-Green BruceZ for Great Justice
Posts: 68,403
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
corker is a no
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12-01-2017, 07:27 PM
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#1310
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Not interesting enough
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Scotland
Posts: 47,483
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
Unsurprising that this would pass. This was what they were elected to do. The Dems were elected to give healthcare. The Reps were elected to give tax breaks to the rich.
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12-01-2017, 07:49 PM
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#1311
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Party at the Moon Tower
Posts: 24,697
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
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Originally Posted by Money2Burn
I can’t fathom having billions of dollars—more money than nearly anyone in the history of civilization had been able to accumulate, enough money that my family would not have to work for several generations, at least—and, yet my primary concern is to force politicians to slash the safety net for millions of people, **** over people who pursue higher education, undermine important institutions, strip health insurance from millions of people do whatever it takes just to accumulate a little more money, relatatively speaking. What sad, despicable humans.The donors pushing this stuff need to be punished.
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What I dont get is why people dont just literally storm their mansions and murder them and their families. There's not really that many of these guys out there and its completely insane that the billions of people they **** over even remotely tolerate it.
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12-01-2017, 07:56 PM
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#1312
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adept
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 994
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
What I dont get is why people dont just literally storm their mansions and murder them and their families. There's not really that many of these guys out there and its completely insane that the billions of people they **** over even remotely tolerate it.
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To some extent, this is what happened in Venezuela. Income inequality became so bad that Chavez won elections simply by pledging to make the lives of rich people just as crappy as the lives of poor people.
It's funny because a lot of US media reports are focused on how bad the situation in the country is right now, but what they fail to understand is that, for the vast majority of the population, their lives haven't fundamentally changed.
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12-01-2017, 08:20 PM
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#1313
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 18,707
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
bill has a lot of writing in the margins, arrows, giant X's. Just how it's supposed to work.
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12-01-2017, 08:26 PM
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#1314
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ikesghanistan
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
bill has a lot of writing in the margins, arrows, giant X's. Just how it's supposed to work.
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Lol what the f.
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12-01-2017, 08:30 PM
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#1315
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ikesghanistan
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
If I was Dick Durb I would draw a cock on it.
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12-01-2017, 08:40 PM
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#1316
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 18,707
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
For those still in delusional land arguing about conference and all that.
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12-01-2017, 08:42 PM
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#1317
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binary duo
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: between the sheets
Posts: 12,795
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
the best people
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12-01-2017, 08:45 PM
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#1318
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veteran
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 3,438
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
Is there a deadline for this bill? What's the rush tonight?
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12-01-2017, 08:52 PM
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#1319
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ikesghanistan
Posts: 8,795
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
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Originally Posted by Matty Lice
Is there a deadline for this bill? What's the rush tonight?
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Cuz nobody’s watching.
https://livestream.com/fednet/senate
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12-01-2017, 08:53 PM
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#1320
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: It's hard to get by on a smile
Posts: 26,233
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
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Originally Posted by Matty Lice
Is there a deadline for this bill? What's the rush tonight?
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The debt ceiling is coming up and Christmas holidays and the arbitrary have to get something done in 2017. Why tonight specifically, I don't know.
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12-01-2017, 09:07 PM
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#1321
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Hither, Yon
Posts: 22,224
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
It's Friday, everybody is paying attention to the Flynn thing, Trump's future is uncertain, gotta jam this thing through ASAP before the wheels come off.
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12-01-2017, 09:09 PM
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#1322
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Playing Recreationally
Posts: 4,890
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
Votes are whipped and McConnell doesnt want to risk anyone on the brink to find out what is in the bill or how unpopular it is.
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12-01-2017, 09:14 PM
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#1323
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ikesghanistan
Posts: 8,795
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
Plus who gets indicted next? Gotta get that sucker signed before all the truth comes out.
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12-01-2017, 09:17 PM
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#1324
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Belmont Alum
Posts: 3,522
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
Cannot wait to renovate my kitchen with my new money!!
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12-01-2017, 09:18 PM
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#1325
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: It's hard to get by on a smile
Posts: 26,233
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Re: 2017 "Tax Reform": They'll Screw This Up Too, Right?
There's one exemption from taxing a university's endowment.
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