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12-01-2017 , 12:50 AM
Onion or not Onion?



12-01-2017 , 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
Onion or not Onion?

nice

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how can they hide that which they dont have?
12-01-2017 , 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TheHip41
ITS NOT GOING ABOVE 3%

Jfc just keep parroting Fox News



Planet money episode from a month ago (it’s a podcast cause I know your an old)

((Podcast are like old time radio shows, but downloaded on a smart phone))

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(((Smart phones are like computers in your hand that can make calls and connect to the internet)))


Anyway. The economists they interviewed concluded to get sustained 3% growth now we would need TWO, concurrent, industry booms.

So like the tech boom, but two of them. At the same time.
Maybe before you try and insult my intelligence on technology you could have linked to the podcast so I could listen to it myself. You do know how to do that don't you?

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Originally Posted by TheHip41
Here’s the thing. This tax plan won’t kick start the economy. It will make the rich richer and the poor poorer.
So it's going to be just like the Obama economy?

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Originally Posted by TheHip41
But hey, go team Kiddie Sex. Get that win.
Did you know that in the 70's it was consensual sex for people over the age of 13? Pretty sick that it was that but hey laws change over time kind of. Since people age 14 can still be married in that state as long as their parent sign off on it.

Last edited by raradevils; 12-01-2017 at 08:25 AM.
12-01-2017 , 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
Did you know that in the 70's it was consensual sex for people over the age of 13? Pretty sick that it was that but hey laws change over time kind of. Since people age 14 can still be married in that state as long as their parent sign off on it.
We had different water fountains for black people in the 60's, but I don't think you should go to bat for someone who encouraged segregation, but was technically complying with the law.

edit: Rara, come on, you can't seriously buy that "It was the law, oh well" garbage, right? This dude was stalking teenage girls as an adult and it got so bad that he got banned from public places because of it lol
12-01-2017 , 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by xdeuceswild81xx
We had different water fountains for black people in the 60's, but I don't think you should go to bat for someone who encouraged segregation, but was technically complying with the law.

edit: Rara, come on, you can't seriously buy that "It was the law, oh well" garbage, right? This dude was stalking teenage girls as an adult and it got so bad that he got banned from public places because of it lol
How precious that you think raradevils opposes segregation
12-01-2017 , 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
Maybe before you try and insult my intelligence on technology you could have linked to the podcast so I could listen to it myself. You do know how to do that don't you?



So it's going to be just like the Obama economy?



Did you know that in the 70's it was consensual sex for people over the age of 13? Pretty sick that it was that but hey laws change over time kind of. Since people age 14 can still be married in that state as long as their parent sign off on it.


Episode 776. Here we grow again

WHATABOUT OBAMA

hey child sex is ok


Thumbs up
12-01-2017 , 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by xdeuceswild81xx
We had different water fountains for black people in the 60's, but I don't think you should go to bat for someone who encouraged segregation, but was technically complying with the law.

edit: Rara, come on, you can't seriously buy that "It was the law, oh well" garbage, right? This dude was stalking teenage girls as an adult and it got so bad that he got banned from public places because of it lol
I was just pointing out what the law was then, the fact that I think it was and is sick for an adult to go after children. There should be a special place in hell for people that do that.

How I feel about the Moore election is irrelevant since I can't vote in it.
12-01-2017 , 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
How precious that you think raradevils opposes segregation
Fair point. I will admit I never thought of RaRa as a super racist R, but just a typical republican "cut my taxes and idc what else you do" type of voter. I'm also willing to admit I was wrong.
12-01-2017 , 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
I was just pointing out what the law was then, the fact that I think it was and is sick for an adult to go after children. There should be a special place in hell for people that do that.

How I feel about the Moore election is irrelevant since I can't vote in it.
Then why even bother to bring it up? You pseudo mount a defense of Moore, but now just 1 post later, "It's sick and I hate it". But, you brought it up!

As a republican, doesn't it embarrass you that a Republican in Alabama, who likes teenage girls, is going to be in the senate repping your party? Or does that not matter? (no sarcasm, legit Q)
12-01-2017 , 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
How precious that you think raradevils opposes segregation
Stop project your prejudices on me. I judge people by the content of their character not their outward appearance.
12-01-2017 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
Stop project your prejudices on me. I judge people by the content of their character not their outward appearance.
Unless they diddle kids. Then you'll refrain from judgement.
12-01-2017 , 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by xdeuceswild81xx
Then why even bother to bring it up? You pseudo mount a defense of Moore, but now just 1 post later, "It's sick and I hate it". But, you brought it up!

As a republican, doesn't it embarrass you that a Republican in Alabama, who likes teenage girls, is going to be in the senate repping your party? Or does that not matter? (no sarcasm, legit Q)
No actual TheHip41 fired shots at me first "But hey, go team Kiddie Sex. Get that win.".

I'm not a republican (yes I'm registered R but you have to have a party affiliate in order to vote in primary elections in this state for local elected officials), I'm a libertarian but whatever.
12-01-2017 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by xdeuceswild81xx
Then why even bother to bring it up? You pseudo mount a defense of Moore, but now just 1 post later, "It's sick and I hate it". But, you brought it up!

As a republican, doesn't it embarrass you that a Republican in Alabama, who likes teenage girls, is going to be in the senate repping your party? Or does that not matter? (no sarcasm, legit Q)
"i'm gonna offer up this unsolicited defense of roy moore's pedophilia and the republican party's acceptance of it, just like i do on every other issue, but on the other hand i totally dont agree with it because i'm totes not actually a republican, btw dems and obama totally do it too, but what does it matter my opinion is irrelevant anyway, like i said i'm not a republican because i voted for gary johnson and live in a blue state, all i want to do is pay less taxes and have less regulations on my business so hillary and obama are at least just as bad as trump"

standard disingenuous rara meow chow
12-01-2017 , 09:43 AM
"I'm a libertarian" = I'm unwilling to defend my actual beliefs
12-01-2017 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
Own it (have no mortgage) and it's not going to drop 70% in value. If that happens my tax burden will be reduced anyhow.

What happens if the economy stays above 3% gdp for the next 2-4 years?
If the economy stays above 3% for the next 2-4 years it won't have had much of anything to do with these tax cuts. Most likely it will be because the economy is already rapidly expanding without them.

Pushing tax cuts into a market that is already doing well and then claiming the tax cuts caused the market is more than a little dishonest.

We (as a society) need to have a conversation about how much the government spends and on what... But changing the tax code to further favor the rich at a time when inequality is probably our single biggest economic problem is obviously lolwtfstupid.

Repeat after me "Giving cash to people with a marginal propensity to save north of 80% at a time when global capital supply is brutally oversupplied is not stimulative". Nothing about that statement is anything but 100% factual. It's not ideological, it's factual.

Conservatives need to be arguing for smaller government spending and they need to be specific. The stuff they specify needs to actually be terrible for the country, not merely stuff they don't like. Government programs with good results need to get bigger and government programs with bad results need to disappear altogether and have their funding used to pay down the national debt.

It is not conservative to massively increase the national debt to give people richer than me a big tax cut. I don't need a tax cut either. I want the economy to grow so my business can keep expanding like crazy. 5% in marginal tax rate isn't going to make any difference in my strategy whatsoever.
12-01-2017 , 10:21 AM
Conservatives don't actually care about spending though in general, just on spending that goes to lazy mooching minorities.
12-01-2017 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl




https://www.fa-mag.com/news/rubio--o...its-35928.html
Fixing just because Bernie does a good job.
12-01-2017 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by dth123451
"I'm a libertarian" = I'm unwilling to defend my actual beliefs
The libertarian brand has been taking a bit of a beating with the libertarian to neo Nazi transition that keeps popping up.
12-01-2017 , 12:08 PM
Collins says she isn’t a yes yet. Cornyn may be wrong about having the votes, but who are we kidding. This soulless party of cartoon villains will initiate an enormous transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich and Donald Trump.
12-01-2017 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
Did you know that in the 70's it was consensual sex for people over the age of 13?
Not that it's relevant, but no it wasn't. The age of consent in Alabama in the 70s was 16. The statute of limitations has passed, but what Moore specifically did, which was to lure the girl into a car with the intent of sexual contact, was and is punishable by up to 10 years in the slammer and lifetime registry as a sex offender. (cite)
12-01-2017 , 12:17 PM


It's almost like 'fiscal hawk' is just a fig leaf cover for someone who wants wealth transfer upwards regardless of the economic situation.
12-01-2017 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl


It's almost like 'fiscal hawk' is just a fig leaf cover for someone who wants wealth transfer upwards regardless of the economic situation.
Seriously the GOP full on naked in public right now. Junk hanging out and everything. I'm not sure how the stupids are reading this situation, but surely it's becoming obvious even to them?

Honestly this is Donald Trump in a nutshell. He's doing what they've all been doing for decades but he's doing it in a much louder more obvious way. I'm not sure that's a winning strat. I feel like it's sort of like political strip mining actually. Trading long term viability for the strategy for short term results.

At some point in the not too distant future this thing is going to blow up like bitcoin. As in it's going to go from some hilarious high point to a hilarious low point very very quickly.
12-01-2017 , 12:59 PM
12-01-2017 , 01:02 PM
Turtle says they have the votes.
12-01-2017 , 01:05 PM
down to corker/flake having the audacity to actually be fiscal conservatives.

So the other republicans are doing the time honored strategy of just straight mocking/bullying them for it. I guess congress is just a discord chatroom now.

      
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