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Youwager k in withdrawals sent to wrong BTC address: Inside job? Youwager k in withdrawals sent to wrong BTC address: Inside job?

11-15-2018 , 10:52 AM
I already posted about this at SBR:
https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...n-via-btc.html

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Three weeks ago Youwager closed my account. First they delayed my bets by 15 seconds so they could move the line and offer me a worse price. Then finally they said they didn't want my action at all. I was up on them a good amount.

I couldn't even log in. I had to call and they explained to me they closed the account. They would open it for a few minutes for me to request my remaining funds. On October 23, I requested 8 withdrawals for a total of $15,335. They were supposed to send 3 withdrawals per 7 days. Just like my last withdrawals that I had requested there.

The first four payouts came, as expected. Four more to come. The next one should have been received today, November 13 (yesterday technically). It still hadn't arrived by the end of the day and I contacted live chat and "Cindy" told me, much to my surprise, they already sent them all! Cindy, we're going to have a problem.

I received 4 of the 8 withdrawals. Cindy gave me details of the other withdrawals that were sent. The dates and BTC address. The other 4 were sent to a different BTC address which is not mine. Youwager sent two withdrawals on October 24 and two on October 25. Of those, only one came to my own BTC address.

It doesn't add up. Somehow the address for some of the payouts was changed. Even though I was only given access to my account for 10 minutes to request those withdrawals. I had to confirm the payout codes calling from my registered phone number. And somehow, somebody got Youwager to send 4 payouts in 2 days, when their policy is to send 3 payouts in 7 days.

I have no idea how this happened. A supervisor is supposed to call me tomorrow. I found one similar case at another forum, but for a much smaller amount, and it was two years ago. Does anyone else know about this happening at Youwager? Live chat just asks for your username and password, so it doesn't feel like the most secure book.
In short, it's extremely suspicious. The more I think about it, it had to have been an inside job. It's very concerning, because this could happen to anybody.
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11-28-2018 , 02:04 AM
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I received 4 of the 8 withdrawals. Cindy gave me details of the other withdrawals that were sent. The dates and BTC address. The other 4 were sent to a different BTC address which is not mine. Youwager sent two withdrawals on October 24 and two on October 25. Of those, only one came to my own BTC address.
To help you all get exposure and to warn others, I'm working on writing a report of YouWager's complaints. The wording of this is confusing to me. You are missing 3 withdrawals or 4 withdrawals? How much are you missing in total? Were 3 sent to wrong address and a final was pending, or were 4 sent to a wrong address? Please clarify details.
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11-28-2018 , 02:12 AM
Not important, but out of curiosity - was the original title of your post at SBR

"My Youwager account hacked and $7k stolen via BTC"

Or is that what they changed the post title to read.

They deleted some relevant comments from others. I hope this work out, and could because of who you are - but it seems SBR was protecting YouWager some in making the thread seem like it was a hack job or less serious. Now that 3 others (there are 4 complaints in that thread) they might address it more. Probably more complaints show up soon too. A lot of times people keep quiet trying to work it out first - but once others start complaining and is momentum more come forward as is happening now.
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11-28-2018 , 05:56 AM
On October 23, my account was closed and I could no longer bet, I requested 8 more withdrawals for the remainder of my balance. Of those, I received 4, all for $2000. And 4 were sent to somebody else: 3 for a total of $2000 and 1 for $1335. The total amount that I am missing is $7335.

It's also important to note the dates that Youwager sent the withdrawals. The fact that they did not follow their normal payout schedule (1 payout per day, 3 payouts per 7 days) tells me something was going on there. Youwager had already sent 2 withdrawals to this other address on October 24, the very next day after I requested my payouts. They did not send a withdrawal to my own address until October 25. This means they had already sent 2 BTC withdrawals to a fraudulent address before they even sent one to the actual address that I had given them. The fraudulent bitcoin address that Youwager sent the missing funds to is:3Na8PQA4hEqPZWCWj4cBrcYWojxVW7RgRv and you can see that 4 withdrawals were sent to that address. Those are the 4 that I am missing.

And by the way, I originally made that title myself, as it seemed unclear what had happened at Youwager and I did not want to make false accusations. In light of several new complaints that are popping up daily at SBR, I would have titled it differently, of course. It no longer appears to be a hack. It now appears that Youwager intentionally stole players' funds, or at the very least has one thief employee who they are protecting for some reason.
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11-29-2018 , 10:55 AM
I posted this at SBR before they banned me. I'll just paste it here so people can understand how clear it is that youwager.com is at fault in these 3 "hacking" cases:

These sound like inside jobs. For those who don't know, here's how payouts normally work at YouWager:

1. you can request a BTC cashout online. The max for me was $1K (major red flag IMO). I think I read $2K in this thread. You enter your address.

2. Youwager emails you a confirmation code

3. You call customer service and let them know you have a confirmation code for a BTC payout. Going off memory, they ask for your username and password at the beginning of the call

4. The CS rep does something and the payout is approved

So this can only be an inside job. Whether it's a rogue employee(s) or a broke youwager targetting "sharps" whose accounts have been closed is the only real question.

How does a book that takes $10K bets but has a $1-2K withdrawal limit have an A rating? Something stinks at youwager.
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11-29-2018 , 12:38 PM
YouWager is awful. I played poker there briefly, made a few NFL bets and cashed out. Then for the next year or two, they were calling me 2-6 times a day, every day, from many different numbers, trying to pitch me on playing there again. Finally I got a new phone #.

When I did answer, I tried to tell them to stop calling. Sometimes they'd say OK in a professional-sounding way but then keep calling. Other times, they didn't even pretend to be professional, they just hung up (and then kept calling, of course).

A couple times they were like, "You should deposit now so that you can bet [insert road favorite] tonight!"

It doesn't surprise me in the least that they're engaged in theft.
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11-29-2018 , 01:35 PM
Here is a report - I've reached out to YouWager linking that as well. I'll update if I hear anything back.
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01-14-2019 , 01:48 PM
Prop, did you hear anything back from Youwager? For the moment, they seem to think that this was handled correctly. Sending my bitcoin withdrawals to somebody else, and then not re-imbursing me for their mistake. So, as of now, I can only report that Youwager intends to scam me out of $7,335.

It also appears that I have also been banned from SBR, which suggests maybe they are not confident in the resolution that was achieved, and would prefer I do not discuss the matter further? Or perhaps it was just an innocent mistake and my account will be re-instated at SBR.

Optional can comment on that here if he wants. I know there was some confusion with the other poster who Youwager had attempted to steal $77k from. At first he thought he was banned, but it turned out it was actually just a strange coincidence, or something. I don't know.

Here's a screenshot:
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01-31-2019 , 11:30 AM
Just to update, this remains ongoing. I have received only one of my missing withdrawals, so the other three are still in limbo. It is promising though that they have paid one, showing they are accepting some fault, apparently.

Can somebody post at SBR in the thread I started, that I have been banned there? They said that I was banned for spreading false information, which is not true. In fact, they never asked me for clarification of anything. They just accepted everything Youwager told them and banned me without any questions.
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01-31-2019 , 04:36 PM
If you are a winning bettor, don't play at you wager. In fact dont play at most books. There are only very few books that can handle winners.

As for SBR, they are very crooked. If you are a winning bettor open a complaint on any of their highly touted/promoted book, they will use their companys fake accounts to make you look like the fraud. They never act in the interest of the bettor. This is because SBR relies on player losses to make affiliate commission. If you are a winning bettor, you are eating into their earnings. For them its best if you don't get paid.

As for youwager, its a terrible book. There are other square books that are not good for winning bettors but they will pay you your money even if they close your account. However. You wager will do everything possible to not pay you.

Its always good to join a book through an affiliate partner so that there will be someone/group to speak for you if the book does something ifffy but never use an affiliate that relies on commission of player losses. Use a one that simply gets per head referral fee.

Avoid SBR. Avoid youwager.

The more time you spent on sbr forums, the more you will lose because your brain will synchchronize with the bunch of losers there. It is true for more sports betting forums but sbr takes it to a next level.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 05-30-2021 at 04:26 AM.
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