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11-07-2011 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by GarbageMan
jets, saints and bengals
new england were only in the 7pt tease range?
Hmm. I just checked and I made this teaser on 5 dimes (which uses worse lines than other books). However, it was +150 for a 3 team 7 point tease where all 3 bets crossed the 3 and 7, so I thought still playable.

Unfortunately, the bottom line is I had two teasers, and Oakland was in one and New England the other. If there are a lot of Wongable teams on any given week, do you guys make every teaser combination possible, to avoid the situation where the majority of your teams win, but the ones that lose are on different cards making them all losers?
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11-07-2011 , 03:57 PM
do every +ev combo possible mate, but have a read of this to get some ideas...wong teaser tips
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11-07-2011 , 04:16 PM
oh yea i like how that guy tried to append his name to the front of wong teasers when he was just following the book and adding in some stuff that was questionable on his own
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11-07-2011 , 04:20 PM
I sometimes round-robin and sometimes I don't. If there are more than 3 wongable teams...it depends if I want to leave a leg out...

This week I DID round-robin because one of the wongable teams was a Monday nighter and I wanted to go for the middle. Which I now have...

The round robin has the advantage of paying off huge if you hit all 4 or 5 teams. We all got tebow'd though so that didn't happen.
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11-07-2011 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jdock99
With Oakland and New England losing how many people still have live Philly teasers?
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Originally Posted by Jediburke
7pt teaser I like Denver Broncos +16.5.

Against the Raiders, if Broncos can score 14, this half of a bet is on lock down.


I'm taking this with Atlanta -1(@Colts) and Houston -5.5(Home vs. Browns).

This guy has a bunch going.

Ended up getting a bunch of teasers working with these 3, including 3 teasers with the eagles.
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11-07-2011 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rsigley
oh yea i like how that guy tried to append his name to the front of wong teasers when he was just following the book and adding in some stuff that was questionable on his own
well yeah, obv a lot better to actually buy ssb...
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11-07-2011 , 05:25 PM
i dont know what you guys are doing but I dont do teasers until like 10 minutes before kickoff and oak and NE were not in range.
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11-07-2011 , 05:33 PM
Bad Beat Bill posted in NFL WEEK 10 thread and figured I would share it here also... Baltimore -6.5 or -7 @Seattle looks like a great 6pt teaser.
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11-07-2011 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Poogs
i dont know what you guys are doing but I dont do teasers until like 10 minutes before kickoff and oak and NE were not in range.
You kind of answered your own question. I do my teasers earlier in the week. When I did my teasers Atl was in range too, although I am definitely not complaining about that one.
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11-07-2011 , 06:23 PM
Wong wisdom says it's not profitable to blindly tease early lines, correct?

So it would be unprofitable to get some going that are tied with tonight and next weeks games, correct?

Unless you can handicap the lines (somewhat) correctly on your own?
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11-07-2011 , 06:52 PM
wong teasers work against efficient lines. early lines are not efficient. I think you can work out the rest of this complex logic tree.
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11-07-2011 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jediburke
Bad Beat Bill posted in NFL WEEK 10 thread and figured I would share it here also... Baltimore -6.5 or -7 @Seattle looks like a great 6pt teaser.
I don't think it will get up to the required 7.5 imho. it already snap moved to -6.5 from opening.
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11-07-2011 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Poogs
wong teasers work against efficient lines. early lines are not efficient. I think you can work out the rest of this complex logic tree.
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11-07-2011 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Poogs
wong teasers work against efficient lines. early lines are not efficient. I think you can work out the rest of this complex logic tree.
So an opening line of +2.5 is not efficient if it stays at and closes at 2.5?
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11-07-2011 , 07:51 PM
It's efficient if that happens to occur. But of course lines on sunday morning are much more likely to be efficient than those from 4 days earlier.
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11-07-2011 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyFondue
So an opening line of +2.5 is not efficient if it stays at and closes at 2.5?
JonFon, I do not think you are gonna get a whole lot more out of this exchange. If you have not noticed, the regs in this forum are pretty much 100% trolls at this point. I think it is because they have been talking about sports betting so much there is nothing new and they are completely bored with it, so the only thing that gets them off is trolling "newbies" who do not have the knowledge base they do.

In Poog's defense he did actually answer the question, albeit in an indirect, very partial way. Most of the other regs/trolls (such as Srigley and BOOT) offer absolutely nothing to the forum (although I am guessing at one time in the past before they got bored with it all they were valuable contributors which is why they get a free pass)
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11-07-2011 , 08:05 PM
You seem to be doing just fine bastardizing this on your own. Don't need our help.
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11-07-2011 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by weirdchess1
It's efficient if that happens to occur. But of course lines on sunday morning are much more likely to be efficient than those from 4 days earlier.
Isn't that what I said?

Without any handicapping abilities it's unprofitable to blindly tease early lines.

But if a line is +2 and you are a good enough handicapper to be relatively sure that's a solid line that won't move more than 1/2 a point in either direction, it seems like it would be profitable to tease that game with the monday night game if the monday night gave was a good wong teaser game.

Am I right or wrong in this assumption.
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11-07-2011 , 08:31 PM
JF,

While what you've written is semi-reasonable...you are basically asserting that you can predict line movement. Which is great! You don't need help...but you need to understand a lot of people THINK they can predict line movement when they really can't. We will generally dispense advice in this thread assuming you can't.

But if you cannot predict line movement...it is best to bet closer to closing time. I break this rule on occasion if I know I won't be around Sunday morning or SAT night or whatever...but I generally try to follow it.
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11-07-2011 , 08:37 PM
Also, this forum is filled with terrible sports bettors. I don't know what else one could do besides troll them. It seems exhausting to try to educate someone who will argue/not listen. They also don't get anything in return from the repartee.
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11-07-2011 , 08:40 PM
^^ Very much this.
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11-07-2011 , 08:40 PM
referring to post 1544
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11-07-2011 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jdock99
JI think it is because they have been talking about sports betting so much there is nothing new and they are completely bored with it, so the only thing that gets them off is trolling "newbies" who do not have the knowledge base they do.
Or ... spoon feeding "newbies" does absolutely 0 to help their bottom line (actually less obv). So their 'trolling' is the best help you're gonna get. If you thought about it for a few seconds you'd come to the conclusion that if you get 'trolled' on a subject it means you're prbly off the correct path.

There, I just spoonfed you a little bit but I'll prbly get resistance back at me.

Quid pro quo Holmes, be happy with what you get. This isn't public school
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11-07-2011 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeyObviously
Also, this forum is filled with terrible sports bettors. I don't know what else one could do besides troll them. It seems exhausting to try to educate someone who will argue/not listen. They also don't get anything in return from the repartee.
Ignoring is not an option?
And besides, I am ok with the trolling. I am just warning JonFon not to waste his time trying to get into a serious conversation with a troll.
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11-07-2011 , 09:14 PM
A question that may get me trolled:

If a line opens at -8.5 at one book but multiple other books have it for -9 and higher, wouldn't it be profitable to tease this line, even if it is early?

This occurred with GB/BALT a couple weeks ago. I saw them both at -8.5 on one book, but other books had them at -9 or -10, so I teased the early lines, thinking they would probably move higher rather than lower off the 8.5, which they did.

Of course, BALT lost on MNF SU, but still.
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