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Old 09-13-2010, 11:21 PM   #126
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i hedged but couldnt pull the middle, o well.

i see the packers are -14 right now, if that line moves to -14.5 does anyone have any thoughts on teasing that to cover the 10 and 14? Any past posts regarding?
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Old 09-14-2010, 04:46 AM   #127
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I <3 teasers - they sounded awesome when I read sharp sports betting, and having all 4 teams cover this weekend was a nice start.
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Old 09-14-2010, 10:10 AM   #128
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i hedged but couldnt pull the middle, o well.

i see the packers are -14 right now, if that line moves to -14.5 does anyone have any thoughts on teasing that to cover the 10 and 14? Any past posts regarding?
sure do it. just keep teasing through anything that could be gotten with a 3 and/or 7

3, 7, 10, 14, 17, 21, 24, etc. they're all worth the same
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Old 09-14-2010, 10:15 AM   #129
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sure do it. just keep teasing through anything that could be gotten with a 3 and/or 7

3, 7, 10, 14, 17, 21, 24, etc. they're all worth the same
No they're not
The idea that teasing through 24 and 3 is the same is ridiculous
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Old 09-14-2010, 10:20 AM   #130
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No they're not
The idea that teasing through 24 and 3 is the same is ridiculous
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Old 09-14-2010, 10:25 AM   #131
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These have been like printing money, esp with 2 teamers at even money. I wonder how good they'll be going forward.
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Old 09-14-2010, 10:32 AM   #132
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I wish I could get a spoon. I've looked at a bunch of sources including the ones linked above and tried to derive the growth manually and am failing pretty hard.

I have 4.4% to win 9% of my bankroll on ravens +8 which I estimate at 77.88% given current lines. What do I put on a hedge/middle? Someone plz teach me. TY in advance.
I was in pretty much the same situation and I think my optimal hedge (which I executed) was $0.
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Old 09-14-2010, 11:13 AM   #133
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geez i already can see two team teasers next year at -120

well what can you do, just keep on teasing those numbers divisible by 3 and 7, like printing money.
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Old 09-14-2010, 11:48 AM   #134
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just keep on teasing those numbers divisible by 3 and 7,
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:22 PM   #135
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After wanting to do this for the past 3 weeks (and missing out on boatloads of profit), I'm finally taking the plunge and doing this for the first time week 2.

All 2, 3 and 4 team combos of:
Bengals +7.5
Cowboys -2.5
Jets +8
Chargers -2
Skins +9 (+3 -125)

Bucs and Chiefs lines are off on my site at the moment and I only really feel somewhat comfortable putting in the current amount of teasers I have plus I don't wanna lose out on the lines I got (which is what happened last week and led me to not doing this) so I'm just gonna let it be and hope for the best.

Let's go Wongs, keep it going!
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Old 09-15-2010, 12:17 AM   #136
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After wanting to do this for the past 3 weeks (and missing out on boatloads of profit), I'm finally taking the plunge and doing this for the first time week 2.

All 2, 3 and 4 team combos of:
Bengals +7.5
Cowboys -2.5
Jets +8
Chargers -2
Skins +9 (+3 -125)

Bucs and Chiefs lines are off on my site at the moment and I only really feel somewhat comfortable putting in the current amount of teasers I have plus I don't wanna lose out on the lines I got (which is what happened last week and led me to not doing this) so I'm just gonna let it be and hope for the best.

Let's go Wongs, keep it going!
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Old 09-15-2010, 08:20 AM   #137
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After wanting to do this for the past 3 weeks (and missing out on boatloads of profit), I'm finally taking the plunge and doing this for the first time week 2.

All 2, 3 and 4 team combos of:
Bengals +7.5
Cowboys -2.5
Jets +8
Chargers -2
Skins +9 (+3 -125)

Bucs and Chiefs lines are off on my site at the moment and I only really feel somewhat comfortable putting in the current amount of teasers I have plus I don't wanna lose out on the lines I got (which is what happened last week and led me to not doing this) so I'm just gonna let it be and hope for the best.

Let's go Wongs, keep it going!
Sorry I'm a noob but I know there is a super easy way to figure out how many total combos that would be... anyone know it off the top of there head?
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Old 09-15-2010, 08:59 AM   #138
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5 choose 2 + 5 choose 3 + 5 choose 4

also not a good idea to tease them on wednesday since its built on the idea of efficient lines and closer to gametime they're considered more efficient
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Old 09-15-2010, 10:00 AM   #139
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Excel has a function to help with this. COMBIN
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Old 09-15-2010, 10:11 AM   #140
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Sorry I'm a noob but I know there is a super easy way to figure out how many total combos that would be... anyone know it off the top of there head?
http://www.mathsisfun.com/combinator...alculator.html

Types to choose from: 5
Number chosen: 2
Is order important: No
Is repetition allowed: No

A, B, C, D, E
AB, AC, AD, AE
BC, BD, BE
CD, CE
DE

10.
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Old 09-15-2010, 10:46 AM   #141
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Excel has a function to help with this. COMBIN
just type 5 choose 2 + 5 choose 3 + 5 choose 4 into google much easier
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Old 09-15-2010, 10:51 AM   #142
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Posts like that make the trolls more effective.
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Old 09-15-2010, 11:22 AM   #143
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http://www.mathsisfun.com/combinator...alculator.html

Types to choose from: 5
Number chosen: 2
Is order important: No
Is repetition allowed: No

A, B, C, D, E
AB, AC, AD, AE
BC, BD, BE
CD, CE
DE

10.
Ty, I saw it put like this but couldnt find it again.
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Old 09-15-2010, 04:14 PM   #144
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Sorry to ask this question again because I faintly remember seeing the answer but I'd rather not have to look through all previous wong threads to find it.

If a book offers -110 on 2 teamers, +180 on 3 teamers and +300 on 4 teamers, are you supposed to forego doing 2 teamers and just do all 3 and 4 team combos instead of doing all 2, 3 and 4 team combos were u to have +100 on 2 teamers. Or is still still ok to put in all 2 teamers at -110?

Also what would be simple bet sizing if we're doing so. 3% of bankroll on 3 teamers and 2% of bankroll on 4 teamers?

Thanks
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Old 09-15-2010, 04:18 PM   #145
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Sorry to ask this question again because I faintly remember seeing the answer but I'd rather not have to look through all previous wong threads to find it.

If a book offers -110 on 2 teamers, +180 on 3 teamers and +300 on 4 teamers, are you supposed to forego doing 2 teamers and just do all 3 and 4 team combos instead of doing all 2, 3 and 4 team combos were u to have +100 on 2 teamers. Or is still still ok to put in all 2 teamers at -110?

Also what would be simple bet sizing if we're doing so. 3% of bankroll on 3 teamers and 2% of bankroll on 4 teamers?

Thanks
Otra cosa que usted desea, ¿puedo brillar sus zapatos o conseguir su coche lavado para usted?
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Old 09-15-2010, 04:35 PM   #146
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Does anybody have or know where I can find % Wong teasers have covered for the past 5 years? The only source I found had them at 76% but that was from 1990-2000.(Wongs SSB)
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Old 09-15-2010, 04:47 PM   #147
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Otra cosa que usted desea, ¿puedo brillar sus zapatos o conseguir su coche lavado para usted?
don't speak spanish but from what a translator tells me, what you wrote basically means 'is there anything else you'd like or would you like me to shine your shoes and wash your car as well', amirite?
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Old 09-15-2010, 04:51 PM   #148
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I think I found the answer I'm looking for from TomCowley in an old daliman thread.

'If you have the option of RRing 3-teamers at +180 and 2-teamers @-110, it's better to do just the 3-teamers. The opposite is true for 2-teamers @+100.'

So whatever I would put on 2 teamers at -110, I should just put on 3 teamers a +180 instead. Same for 3 teamers at +180 if 2 teamers at +100 are available, correct?
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Old 09-15-2010, 05:31 PM   #149
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don't speak spanish but from what a translator tells me, what you wrote basically means 'is there anything else you'd like or would you like me to shine your shoes and wash your car as well', amirite?
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Old 09-15-2010, 11:49 PM   #150
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Does anybody have or know where I can find % Wong teasers have covered for the past 5 years? The only source I found had them at 76% but that was from 1990-2000.(Wongs SSB)
http://www.sportsforumworld.com/showthread.php?t=6276
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