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Old 08-30-2010, 03:40 PM   #51
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another thing:

if points are priced linearly in teasers, i'm guessing it's just as linear in spread movement? which should mean chasing steam when the spread moves from 3 to 3.5 is much more profitable than chasing steam when it moves from, say, 4 to 4.5...?
yes different points have different values

3/7 obviously are worth way more than other points

during the online sportsbook "boom" in the neteller era lot of stupid sportsbooks would let you buy on and off the 3 for 10 cents and lost tons of money

same thing in nba, skybook would get killed on fridays by giving everyone a free half point in nba
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:50 PM   #52
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yes different points have different values

3/7 obviously are worth way more than other points

during the online sportsbook "boom" in the neteller era lot of stupid sportsbooks would let you buy on and off the 3 for 10 cents and lost tons of money

same thing in nba, skybook would get killed on fridays by giving everyone a free half point in nba
Wagerchief had that promotion for college and nba last year, between 3pm and 5pm EST, it was delicious
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Old 08-30-2010, 07:40 PM   #53
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you guys have been mostly betting teams that were +ev on a 20-cent line
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Old 08-30-2010, 10:41 PM   #54
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Can someone ship me $75 on 5Dimes? I'll send FTP or Stars.

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Old 08-30-2010, 11:55 PM   #55
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Can someone ship me $75 on 5Dimes? I'll send FTP or Stars.

Thanks!
I don't think 5 Dimes will do one for less than $500, not to mention that nobody here is going to waste their time and energy on such a pointless, low level trade. Man up and go to the nearest Money Gram tomorrow AM.
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:09 AM   #56
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alright, just to make sure i got the gist of this, let me check if i just threw a few hundred euros in the lake or not.

two team teaser @ -110:
NY Jets (from +1.5 to +7.5)
Tampa Bay (from +2.5 to +8.5)

that's pretty much the only one i found that seemed playable.
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:13 AM   #57
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I don't think 5 Dimes will do one for less than $500, not to mention that nobody here is going to waste their time and energy on such a pointless, low level trade. Man up and go to the nearest Money Gram tomorrow AM.
They charge $15 for P2P too, so that would be a whopping 20% administration fee
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:21 AM   #58
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yep, you've got it.

There is an even better play if you want to go to advanced basic teasers.

if you want to include the 2nd level of teasers, the Bengals (from -6.5 to -0.5) is a good one as the no-vig Pinny moneyline is -248, meaning the Bengals pk is 71.29%. Given the small amount of OTs in the NFL-exhibition and that 3 team teasers pay +180 where the teaser legs only need to hit 70.95% to be winners as opposed to the -110 2 teamer that requires 72.37%, you are much better off throwing the Bengals at -6.5 into that to maximize.

Regardless, you should wait closer to gametime before placing.
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Old 09-01-2010, 04:42 AM   #59
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thanks a lot mt2r, i owe you a beer.

would you put that together with Jets and Tampa in a 3-teamer, or do a 3-teamer and then three 2-teamers with all the combinations (+180, -110)?
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:49 AM   #60
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re: Wong Teasers Basic Strategy Discussion Thread

Luego, I'm seeing all of these as Wongable:

Atlanta +2.5 @ Jacksonville --> Atlanta +8.5
Tennessee -8.5 vs. New Orleans --> Tennessee -2.5
Tampa Bay +1.5 @ Houston --> Tampa Bay +7.5
Cleveland +2.5 vs. Chicago --> Cleveland +8.5
Baltimore +2.5 @ St. Louis --> Baltimore +8.5

So you'd have 10 two-team teasers:
Atlanta +8.5 & Tennessee -2.5
Atlanta +8.5 & Tampa Bay +7.5
Atlanta +8.5 & Cleveland +8.5
Atlanta +8.5 & Baltimore +8.5
Tennessee -2.5 & Tampa Bay +7.5
Tennessee -2.5 & Cleveland +8.5
Tennessee -2.5 & Baltimore +8.5
Tampa Bay +7.5 & Cleveland +8.5
Tampa Bay +7.5 & Baltimore +8.5
Cleveland +8.5 & Baltimore +8.5
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Old 09-01-2010, 11:32 AM   #61
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weird, must have missed tennessee and cleveland somehow... the others i really can't find at the spread you're saying apart from 5dimes (i thought 5d wasnt profitable for wongs?). thanks a lot again for the help, i'll try this out and see where it goes.
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:41 PM   #62
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I used the following link to see what the best teaser odds were
http://www.sportsbookreview.com/football+teasers/
I registered at bet any sports, but when i entered there teasers the lines are different then what are displayed on there live lines feed.
Thu 9/2 107 New York Jets +6 o28
7:30PM 108 Philadelphia Eagles +6 u40

Thu 9/2 117 Green Bay Packers +11˝ o34˝
8:00PM 118 Kansas City Chiefs +˝ u46˝

these types of lines are all they have for teasers.
I am sorry if this is a real noob questions but obv these lines arent teasable for wongs, but are these lines even corret?. Also do they have them so messed up to prevent the wong teasers? I have teased on bodog before and might just end up teasing there this season, but I was going to look for a site that had better payouts, but these lines dont make any sense.

sorry for the tl;dr
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:43 PM   #63
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yep, you've got it.

There is an even better play if you want to go to advanced basic teasers.

if you want to include the 2nd level of teasers, the Bengals (from -6.5 to -0.5) is a good one as the no-vig Pinny moneyline is -248, meaning the Bengals pk is 71.29%. Given the small amount of OTs in the NFL-exhibition and that 3 team teasers pay +180 where the teaser legs only need to hit 70.95% to be winners as opposed to the -110 2 teamer that requires 72.37%, you are much better off throwing the Bengals at -6.5 into that to maximize.

Regardless, you should wait closer to gametime before placing.
can you elaborate on this?
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Old 09-01-2010, 04:27 PM   #64
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re: Wong Teasers Basic Strategy Discussion Thread

There is nothing to elaborate on. Read a book/do math.
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Old 09-01-2010, 05:29 PM   #65
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mt2r,
If there are 4 wong teasers 1 week,
is the correct play to bet the 4 team
bet 4, 3 teams
and 6, 2 teams?
I was reading over some of the old dalimans threads and I couldnt find this issue addressed and he seemed to always just bet the 4 team and the 2 teams.
Was there any reason for this? Is it just personal choice based upon how much risk 1 wants to take?
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Old 09-01-2010, 05:44 PM   #66
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kordoISback,
look at the TomCowley thread linked in the DalimanWong FAQ linked in here earlier
also, there is an awesome thread by clam on % of bankroll to bet and hedges regarding this stuff on the first few pages
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Old 09-01-2010, 06:00 PM   #67
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will do both, thanks for the help!
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Old 09-02-2010, 06:55 PM   #68
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these are my 5 point teasers for tonight, anyone have anyone else? all 2 team/3 team combos +105

New England Patriots +7˝ * vs New York Giants
Falcons +7˝ * vs Jacksonville Jaguars
Packers +9˝ * vs Kansas City Chiefs
Cowboys +7˝ * vs Miami Dolphins
Ravens +7˝ * vs St.Louis Rams
Broncos +8˝ * vs Minnesota Vikings
Chargers +8 * vs San Francisco 49ers
Washington Redskins +9˝ * vs Arizona Cardinals
Seattle Seahawks +8 * vs Oakland Raiders
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:29 PM   #69
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getting destroyed by the inability to convert 4th and 1
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:18 PM   #70
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oh god atlanta muffed a punt with 2 mins left
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:05 PM   #71
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3 more lets go

worried about san diego esp after int in end zone
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:19 PM   #72
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Books are in trouble, imo.
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:21 PM   #73
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gonna be hood rich

57264009-1 9/2/10 6:47pm $500.00 $13,000.00 Pending 9 Team Teaser (ties push) Teaser tp 5fb & 4bk
Win 9/2/10 7:00pm NFL Football 103 New England Patriots +7˝ * vs New York Giants
Win 9/2/10 7:30pm NFL Football 109 Atlanta Falcons +7˝ * vs Jacksonville Jaguars
Win 9/2/10 8:00pm NFL Football 117 Green Bay Packers +9˝ * vs Kansas City Chiefs
Win 9/2/10 8:00pm NFL Football 122 Dallas Cowboys +7˝ * vs Miami Dolphins
Win 9/2/10 8:00pm NFL Football 123 Baltimore Ravens +7˝ * vs St.Louis Rams
Win 9/2/10 8:00pm NFL Football 125 Denver Broncos +8˝ * vs Minnesota Vikings
Pending 9/2/10 10:00pm NFL Football 127 San Diego Chargers +8 * vs San Francisco 49ers
Pending 9/2/10 10:00pm NFL Football 129 Washington Redskins +9˝ * vs Arizona Cardinals
Pending 9/2/10 10:00pm NFL Football 131 Seattle Seahawks +8 * vs Oakland Raiders
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:41 PM   #74
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now the battle of getting paid begins......
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Old 09-03-2010, 12:30 AM   #75
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need the raiders to oakland raider ASAP
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