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11-13-2010 , 09:38 PM
I think I just queered my own action.
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11-14-2010 , 11:47 AM
I found a book offering me Detroit +8.5 so I round robined it as the key leg of a bunch of doubles with a bunch of meh picks (MIN+6, JAX+5.5, NYJ+3, STL+12, ARI+3, PHI+3 - chosen because of either an extra half point or because they were the favoured side if the line was the same as Pinny and Pinny were shading).

Am I an idiot or is the extra point and a half (although DET+7 is +111 on Pinny) on Detroit worth taking non wong numbers on the others? Only small bets because I wasn't sure and am a teaser fish - the book has stopped doing single leg teasers unfortunately or I would have just hit that.
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11-14-2010 , 12:38 PM
My book offers 7 pt teasers at -110. I notice the online books charge -130.
Is there anyway to take advantage of this other than just gaining an extra point more than normal ? (e.g. middling, crossing)
Thanks
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11-14-2010 , 12:50 PM
Are the Colts and Bucs at -1 good legs?
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11-14-2010 , 12:57 PM
I dont think so but I could be wrong.


I have Bears +1.5 and lions +3 in every teaser. I looove bodog.
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11-14-2010 , 01:28 PM
Ha, I've got Dolphins +8 in some teasers I did with the Ravens. Also bet Dolphins -1. Now the Titans are at +1.5. Put them in a teaser now too?

That'd be weird .... having both sides of the game in my teasers.




EDIT:

Ah, back to +1 for now.



Double EDIT:

1.5 again.


Took it, teased with Lions .... +7.5 on each.
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11-14-2010 , 01:33 PM
I only see DET +1.5 and CHI +1.5. SBR says the bodog line has DEN +1.5 but bodog is showing me +1, sigh.
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11-14-2010 , 01:34 PM
Football - 105 Baltimore Ravens +7½ for Game
Football - 217 Houston Texans +7 for Game
Football - 223 Detroit Lions +9 for Game

Football - Baltimore Ravens +7½ for Game
Football - 217 Houston Texans +7 for Game
Football - 220 Miami Dolphins +8 for Game

Football - 105 Baltimore Ravens +7½ for Game
Football - 220 Miami Dolphins +8 for Game
Football - 223 Detroit Lions +9 for Game

Football - 105 Baltimore Ravens +7½ for Game
Football - 216 Indianapolis Colts -1½ for Game
Football - 217 Houston Texans +7 for Game

Football - 105 Baltimore Ravens +7½ for Game
Football - 216 Indianapolis Colts -1½ for Game
Football - 223 Detroit Lions +9 for Game

Football - 105 Baltimore Ravens +7½ for Game
Football - 216 Indianapolis Colts -1½ for Game
Football - 220 Miami Dolphins +8 for Game

Football - 219 Tennessee Titans +7½ for Game
Football - 223 Detroit Lions +7½ for Game




Weird. I think it's pretty funny I've got both the Titans and the Dolphins (while they're playing each other) in teasers where I crossed the 3 and the 7 on each of them.
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11-14-2010 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by z32fanatic
I only see DET +1.5 and CHI +1.5. SBR says the bodog line has DEN +1.5 but bodog is showing me +1, sigh.
Yea I hate that. Everyime I check SBR I'll see bodog with like +7.5 when pinny has +7 -111 or something, then get all excited and log in quick and see +7 -120 or whatever. I cant beleive they get away with that.
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11-14-2010 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Lego05
Are the Colts and Bucs at -1 good legs?
Yes.
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11-14-2010 , 04:27 PM
Wong Middle is +EV and +EG. What else can you ask for?

Spoiler:
winnerz obv
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11-14-2010 , 05:05 PM
i jinxed it obv.
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11-14-2010 , 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by That Foreign Guy
I found a book offering me Detroit +8.5 so I round robined it as the key leg of a bunch of doubles with a bunch of meh picks (MIN+6, JAX+5.5, NYJ+3, STL+12, ARI+3, PHI+3 - chosen because of either an extra half point or because they were the favoured side if the line was the same as Pinny and Pinny were shading).

Am I an idiot or is the extra point and a half (although DET+7 is +111 on Pinny) on Detroit worth taking non wong numbers on the others? Only small bets because I wasn't sure and am a teaser fish - the book has stopped doing single leg teasers unfortunately or I would have just hit that.
You know how to calculate whether a teaser is +EV. These would be calculated the same way.
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11-15-2010 , 12:02 AM
woot.... swept again

back to back weekends now
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11-15-2010 , 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by MyTurn2Raise
woot.... swept again

back to back weekends now
That obv means you don't bet them next weekend. Key to being a wong expert is timing and only betting the good weeks.
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11-15-2010 , 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by kdog
You know how to calculate whether a teaser is +EV. These would be calculated the same way.
Only in the most basic terms - each point is worth a certain amount of cover %, you need the multiplied cover %s of the two games to be greater than the break even percentage given the odds you're getting.

I'm not sure how to deal with the shaded lines on Pinny part of the equation though. Do I assume the shading is on the original (pre-tease) lines and that I adjust the cover % there (so instead of covering -3 50% of the time a team that is -3 -130 covers 52% or whatever) then add the value of each point?
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11-15-2010 , 11:52 AM
It's not a wong, but I have Washington +9.5 as my final leg on my teaser parlay. The payout is about 1500, obv a middle would be best, any suggestions on a good amount to hedge?
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11-15-2010 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Pwn_Master
That obv means you don't bet them next weekend. Key to being a wong expert is timing and only betting the good weeks.
nah... key is to bet them every time the math says to, no matter what

actually, it's been lucky to have 3 weeks ago practically be an 0-fer and then sweep the next two weeks. If those losses had been spread out over the 3 weeks instead of all happening at one time, the bankroll would be a lot different.
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11-15-2010 , 02:05 PM
You mean how... You didn't bet yesterday and are now saying this?
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11-15-2010 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Thremp
You mean how... You didn't bet yesterday and are now saying this?
I bet a few yesterday morning (to get Bears) after layering up Thursday night on all combos that included Ravens-- but Dolphins no good Sunday morning

I am sad that I didn't bother with the 6.5 ptrs to include the Broncos

What can I say? I've run quite hot on these things all year in terms of when and where in betting.
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11-15-2010 , 02:52 PM
The Titans were in 6 pt range and lost.
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11-15-2010 , 03:35 PM
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The Titans were in 6 pt range and lost.
they were? wow. I had Dolphins from Thursday night. No titans.
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11-15-2010 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MyTurn2Raise
they were? wow. I had Dolphins from Thursday night. No titans.
The Fish closed at -1 -117/108 at Pinny and got as high as +2 some places. The only good news is that there were some +EV hedges out there.
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11-15-2010 , 04:02 PM
yea i was too focused on eurotard bball to tease titans so my laziness pays off in the end

plus i don't like teasing the same game two sides because i don't like free money
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