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11-12-2010 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Lego05
Yay, maybe it wasn't that stupid. My only hope was the other legs were strong enough to make up for it.

I didn't really do it on purpose this time but happy it's alright. Hopefully will work out too.

I bet it at BetJamaica a few hours before kickoff and it was +1.5. I think later when I looked right before kickoff it was back to +1.
No that happened. Glad it got back to 1 for my sake (minor t/j).
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11-13-2010 , 04:40 AM
Ravens were +1.5 a lot more than a few places. Was more like a few places didn't move off +1. For a brief period (lasting 5 minutes or so about 30 minutes before game time) they hit +2 at a few Euro sites, and +2.5 one place only (Bet365).
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11-13-2010 , 11:31 AM
^ lol wat
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11-13-2010 , 02:31 PM
About 30 minutes before the game (maybe was 20 maybe 45, not sure) most sites moved to +1.5 before moving back to +1. I don't have notes but ones I am sure of were Bookmaker, JustBet, Bodog, IAS and BetOnline (someone else mentioned Bet Jamaica) because I made a 6 point teaser bets at those 5 sites (well DSI in place of Bookmaker, but same thing). Expekt, Unibet, Bet365 moved to +2 during the same period lines were moving, with Bet365 moving briefly to +2.5 then to +2, all three of those sites moved back to +1 quickly when everyone else did.

1.5 and better was widely available to anyone watching for it the hour before game starting.

Was response to:

"Where did everyone get 1.5 on balt last night?"

"Hmm, I was watching the screen for a while last night and never saw it go past -1. Did you bet it earlier in the day/week? Did it steam up to 1.5 right before kickoff? Or is the sbr screen not reliab"
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11-13-2010 , 02:40 PM
BM 4 team +300
Justbet squares only
IAS Same
BOL terrible odds

Hardly very representative of where people play teasers or of the statement "Was more like a few places didn't move off +1"
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11-13-2010 , 03:58 PM
DSI has 3 teams +180 but much smaller limits than Bookmaker, same lines though. If squares only is costing you money you need more friends imo, but that's off topic.
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11-13-2010 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by PropPlayer
DSI has 3 teams +180 but much smaller limits than Bookmaker, same lines though. If squares only is costing you money you need more friends imo, but that's off topic.
No they don't.

Are you going to start a diatribe about gnoming to compound factual errors next?
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11-13-2010 , 06:52 PM
You must be talking about some other sport? I have no idea how DSI works for anything outside NFL football but their lines mirror bookmaker for NFL, if there is a lag it is milliseconds. If there are exceptions to this I haven't experienced it.
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11-13-2010 , 06:54 PM
You are absurdly insanely 100% wrong. Especially considering a great example is the specific game we're discussing.
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11-13-2010 , 07:37 PM
Okay I have no idea what you're referring to, but this is trivial so I'm fine with being wrong.

I use a bookmaker feed and bet teasers at DSI and haven't noticed any discrepancies so far. When this game moved to +1.5 on my bookmaker feed I bet it at DSI.

You got me curious though so I opened both side by side and right now all lines are mirrored. I don't have movement history I've archived myself from either of those two sites, but curious that you said this was great example.

From SBR:

Bookmaker

Closing Odds
105 BAL
106 ATL
Odds
+2 -110
-2 -110
Money Line
+110
-130
Totals
44 -110
44 -110

DSI

Closing Odds
105 BAL
106 ATL
Odds
+2 -110
-2 -110
Money Line
+110
-130
Totals
44 -110
44 -110

Also checked a few on the current lines posted and SBR archives them the same.

Anyways doesn't matter much to me. I've been shopping teasers using a Bookmaker feed for DSI and no discrepancies in lines so far. When the line moves to where I need it to and I go straight to DSI, the line has reflected there every time this season. I'm also partnered with a few guys and no ones ever told me the DSI line was different than bookmaker and we need a new feed.

You obviously know something I don't so there must be exceptions. When it comes to NFL though, those exceptions this season I am quite certain if exist are rare.
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11-13-2010 , 07:47 PM
Sitting here right now watching the college football night game moves refreshing both screens and lines are completely identical when I spot a move at one refresh the other and it is there. Everything on board mirrors each other as do the moves.

Please fill me in how the lines are not the same.
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11-13-2010 , 07:52 PM
They are different.
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11-13-2010 , 07:55 PM
Its kinda comical you don't realize that SBR clones BM for their DSI feed.
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11-13-2010 , 07:55 PM
lines.2******.com
lines.bookmaker.com

same IMO
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11-13-2010 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Thremp
Its kinda comical you don't realize that SBR clones BM for their DSI feed.
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Originally Posted by rsigley
lines.2******.com
lines.bookmaker.com

same IMO
I guess I shouldn't have said "SBR clones" since that implies SBR does this. I should have said "They are cloned".
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11-13-2010 , 08:11 PM
http://lines.betcris.com/

all the same crap. all bm books are the same
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11-13-2010 , 08:12 PM
xml feeds are not always identical to what is being shown on the actual site
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11-13-2010 , 08:16 PM
there's a slight lag of a minute or two between the site/xml but i was betting the same lines at ******/bookmaker at the same time on some props and they called me and said just bet at one

unlike 5d who just banned me because i would bet $1 and do a lot of random rolling if bets until it got into the thousands and would max bet on the other side that i wanted. their system was recognizing it as a max bet even though the chance of it happening was essentially 0 and would move the line like 1/2 a point and then i'd just bet the other side on my other account

good times i was an angle shooter in 2006 IMO but now i'm reformed

Last edited by gfxhjk; 11-13-2010 at 08:23 PM. Reason: historical context
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11-13-2010 , 08:24 PM
Okay I see it now. It hasn't ever come into play for me, but have only been using them since bookmaker changed and in that time at the times I was looking lines were the same, price being irrelevant to me.
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11-13-2010 , 08:28 PM
Its not a slight lag. They are different. Calling it a lag is lol.
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11-13-2010 , 08:34 PM
not really when it gets updated on the website it shows up in the xml feed like two minutes later

same thing on pinnacle

i tested it before by straight scraping the site and comparing it to the XML feed

plus it usually shows line moves at 7:02 for games that start at 7:00 but then it stops after that

5d is the only one i noticed where what is exactly in their XML feed is what is displayed on their site
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11-13-2010 , 08:37 PM
Prop bet pls.
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11-13-2010 , 08:58 PM
and how long does the xml feed at pin show the wrong line after a pitching change for?

spoiler: it isn't lag
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11-13-2010 , 09:06 PM
The clemson game is different right now fyi.
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11-13-2010 , 09:30 PM
The ravens line was +1 at dsi and +1.5 at bookmaker for over an hour. There are multiple lines like this every day. DSI has different line monkeys for american sports. I tried to bet a ncaab game at dsi yesterday and it moved 1/2pt during confirm (i appear to have a delay). The line never moved at bm the rest of the day.
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