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Old 08-28-2010, 02:41 PM   #26
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re: Wong Teasers Basic Strategy Discussion Thread

I just reread the old wong thread I guess 2 team teaser at -110 havnt been doing too good? I might try to do more 3 teamed more w better odds. Oakline game also just cross in wongable.
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Old 08-28-2010, 02:53 PM   #27
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I just reread the old wong thread I guess 2 team teaser at -110 havnt been doing too good? I might try to do more 3 teamed more w better odds. Oakline game also just cross in wongable.
The required expected win rate(s) for a +EV bet is significantly lower 3 teaming at +180 than it is 2 teaming at -110.
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Old 08-28-2010, 03:06 PM   #28
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yes but the thread said since 2005 2 teamer at -110 haven't been doing as well since it been winning at a 70% clip not 72.37%. It wouldn't be a +Ev bet if it not winning at a rate it should be . It could be variance but I rather have a +100 for two teamer then -110 just for a few extra edge. Probably won't stop me though since I am a degenerate gambler.
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Old 08-28-2010, 06:23 PM   #29
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A handful of opportunities today. I'm on Buffalo +8.5 and Tampa Bay +8.
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Old 08-29-2010, 02:27 AM   #30
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boom! headshot to the books tonight!
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Old 08-29-2010, 03:01 AM   #31
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won all my wong so far except for stupid cleveland give up two TD in 4 quarter at least it was a push.
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Old 08-29-2010, 01:04 PM   #32
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Now we just need Tebow to channel his inner Joe Webb.
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Old 08-29-2010, 01:29 PM   #33
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yes but the thread said since 2005 2 teamer at -110 haven't been doing as well since it been winning at a 70% clip not 72.37%. It wouldn't be a +Ev bet if it not winning at a rate it should be . It could be variance but I rather have a +100 for two teamer then -110 just for a few extra edge. Probably won't stop me though since I am a degenerate gambler.
just looking blindly at the #s is bad

i.e 2.5 -130/2.5 -110 one is good to tease other isn't

instead people should look at it like

if I have a line of 2.5 -130, what is % it covers 8.5 and is the boost in % enough to make the bet have positive expected value. also 2.5 on a total of 36 vs a total of 50 yield different results

don't always need to tease 6, 5.5/5 work in certain situations

same theory applies to other professional sports. there's profitable teasers in nba i've been using for a couple of years
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Old 08-29-2010, 02:04 PM   #34
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Now we just need Tebow to channel his inner Joe Webb.
hell yeah. That play was beautiful after Childress passed up the FG about 2 minutes earlier.
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Old 08-29-2010, 02:05 PM   #35
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won all my wong so far except for stupid cleveland give up two TD in 4 quarter at least it was a push.
I'm running hot and placed my teasers at places and times that gave me Browns +8.5
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Old 08-29-2010, 02:21 PM   #36
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just looking blindly at the #s is bad

i.e 2.5 -130/2.5 -110 one is good to tease other isn't

instead people should look at it like

if I have a line of 2.5 -130, what is % it covers 8.5 and is the boost in % enough to make the bet have positive expected value. also 2.5 on a total of 36 vs a total of 50 yield different results

don't always need to tease 6, 5.5/5 work in certain situations

same theory applies to other professional sports. there's profitable teasers in nba i've been using for a couple of years
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I'm running hot and placed my teasers at places and times that gave me Browns +8.5
so sick....thought I had it cover until I realize I was short in winning and double check FU browns. Although I be very happy if denver cover
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Old 08-29-2010, 07:38 PM   #37
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I got Browns at 8.5 too which was nice. I have a book that takes two teamers at +100 which is even nicer as well.
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Old 08-29-2010, 09:12 PM   #38
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Old 08-29-2010, 09:51 PM   #39
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I got Browns at 8.5 too which was nice. I have a book that takes two teamers at +100 which is even nicer as well.
what book or is it local?
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Old 08-29-2010, 11:14 PM   #40
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Good start to my wong career wish I had more books deposit to have done 3 team teaser o well.
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Old 08-29-2010, 11:26 PM   #41
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Old 08-30-2010, 07:18 AM   #42
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i don't know anything about am. football so i'm probably coming off pretty dumb here, but the way these work is that you take a +2.5 dog for -110, tease the line to +8.5 and get a different price? what does this "cost", odds wise? do all bookies offer this?

if the 3 and 7 are the important ones, why tease a +2.5 dog six points to 8.5 instead of five points to 7.5?

and is there a particular reason for playing these in parlays instead of just making individual bets on each game?
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:46 AM   #43
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luegofuego, here is a FAQ I put together for the Wong teases based on the smart posters at 2p2.

rsigley suggested earlier this week or the week before looking at 5 pt teases for +2.5. The problem is that those are not offered by very many sportsbooks, but it appears that, yes, there is some merit to doing it at the right price.
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:58 AM   #44
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Thank you Tim Tebow for not f-ing up that hoooooge lead
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Old 08-30-2010, 10:00 AM   #45
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Thank you Dennis Dixon for being garbage
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Old 08-30-2010, 10:04 AM   #46
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already got cut off by another local. 2 this pre season

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Old 08-30-2010, 03:20 PM   #47
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luegofuego, here is a FAQ I put together for the Wong teases based on the smart posters at 2p2.

rsigley suggested earlier this week or the week before looking at 5 pt teases for +2.5. The problem is that those are not offered by very many sportsbooks, but it appears that, yes, there is some merit to doing it at the right price.
thanks, but i don't think that answers my questions. maybe it does but i just didn't get it. why parlays?
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:22 PM   #48
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thanks, but i don't think that answers my questions. maybe it does but i just didn't get it. why parlays?
Because they don't offer 1 team teasers and if you buy points on a straight bet they charge you different amounts based on what numbers you are buying.
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:26 PM   #49
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another thing:

if points are priced linearly in teasers, i'm guessing it's just as linear in spread movement? which should mean chasing steam when the spread moves from 3 to 3.5 is much more profitable than chasing steam when it moves from, say, 4 to 4.5...?
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:27 PM   #50
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Because they don't offer 1 team teasers and if you buy points on a straight bet they charge you different amounts based on what numbers you are buying.
ah thanks, figures. that probably answers my other question too - they don't price spreads linearly when they move it from 3 to 3.5 etc?
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