If you are incapable of discerning between sharp/square steam at some level pre-game that is pretty hilarious.

Is this kinda like how all pleasers are sucker bets?

Enlighten us

When your numbers are admittedly rough, any 'short cut' that doesn't equal hmm, what does the market say? is ******ed.

LOL @ U

Why? lower payouts?

This wasn't a how to guide. I see: Join Date: Mar 2006 / Posts: 16,030 and many of his posts earlier he's asking very basic questions. I decided to take a crack at explaining the basic concept behind teasers in a way other than was responded to before. I was saying for this particular game these #s are extremely rough but here is the basic concept of what you're doing with a tease. The short cut was more of what I expanded on later in evaluating all ways game can be bet, where pricing is at and seeing if all is in line with the teaser.

Okay imo wasn't exact I should say "based on one set of factors and here goes" and went on from there, or something to that effect. I have a limited vocabulary and struggle with words. So sure will continuously be something I don't explain well, such as last sentence of previous paragraph.

That's one reason. Optimal exposure strategies for correlated outcomes was what I was getting at with the second part of it.

Anyways: my response wasn't meant to be anything other than taking a crack at answering his questions. Perhaps i should of sent it to Lego via PM.

Speaking in terms of "cents" when discussing a move from +107 to -244 is awful. Unless you're talking about small increments around even money where cents is a decent shortcut, always use percentages.

Cents issues aside, these numbers are way off. You have the 7 not being worth much more than the 6, when actually the 7 is worth much more than the 6, and while the 2 and 1 are pretty dead, you have the 1 worth about 0.6% and the 2 worth about 0.45%.

Also, the 3 is worth nowhere near 4.5 times as much as the 4. It's worth maybe 3.25 times as much as the 4.

The first thing you need to do is throw your cents out the window.

This was meant to be an extremely simplified example to illustrate what's happening in a teaser, and wasn't meant to include strategy or an actual push chart. I ran out some off top of head numbers as guess based on a 7 point road favorite in format I though was easiest to make the point without complicating it for him. I should of said "extremely rough and off top of my head" and made other disclaimers I guess instead of just quoiting his post I was responding to.

Just use percents, not cents. I'm still not sure what exactly you were getting at since it seemed like you bet Colts teasers but were also saying Colts teasers were a bad bet, unless you meant you bet the Colts teasers and then later didn't like the bet, which certainly happens. Anyway, to simplify matters, I don't like road favorite teasers in general, like road teasers lined at -7 even less, and like road teasers lined at -7 +107 even less, so I probably agree with whatever you were trying to say.

No, I didn't have anything at risk on Colts.

I had an arb involving Colts because for a brief period their moneyline was +300 while the spread was -7. It wasn't until spotting that I went searching for a place to use it, and entered both bets at the same time. A Colts loss = no action, Colts win = action on Chargers.

Also I wasn't openly criticizing anyone's bet. I was responding to his post saying he doesn't understand why Colts teased to -1 would be a bad bet.

Anyways, no big deal I think. I just seen the 4 year join date, massive post count, green user name and confusion and thought okay I'll contribute. perhaps my post wasn't helpful to him, it wasn't meant to be anything too in-depth. Obvious I don't covert to % back to cents and add. It was for short illustration purpose. Again w/e no big deal. This turned into more time than I though I'd spend on my intention to just fire out a quick response to him.

God damn do you all miss me just putting up picks and profiting.

Yeah none of us here can do remedial math.

You'd be surprised.

Well I play poker. That's what I was here for. Now trying to start learning this sports betting thing a little bit.

I appreciate people answering my basic questions. Thank-you. I'll try to get myself to understand it.




I wouldn't mind this the slightest bit. Sounds good.

Thremp did not really mean that teasing the Colts down to -1 was a bad beat. He was being sarcastic. I don't remember Yoda being sarcastic and inserting random wisecracks into conversations where people had no idea WTF he was even referring to. Maybe I have to rewatch the trilogy.

He bet on CroCop against Frank Mir. After Mir KOed CroCop, some people told him that he had made a bad bet. He says it was a good bet, because he beat the closing line. He now came into this thread to joke that having the Colts -1 was definitely a bad bet because the Colts lost. He is not actually saying that teasing the Colts was bad.

I hope this doesn't derail the thread. You have to realize that most of Thremp's posts are less than worthless. Unless you read every thread, his random wisecracks will probably just confuse you. You shouldn't get worked up trying to find the nugget of wisdom in each of his posts.

Scoreboard.

I for one, really appreciate any strategy and spoon feeding that is done in this thread, I don't know my elbow from my a-hole when it comes to sports betting... I just thought it would be fun to do wong teasers for the entire season and see what happens

P.S. I miss daliman the wong messiah

not really

what pct am I running on the legs that you are poo-poo'ing as not being true wongs?

pretty sure I posted 8 winners out of 10 this week
it was 6 winners out of 8 last week

that's enough to be shipping some dollars
it's been a huge party this year

Do you guys like to totally ignore totals when including your push %'ages on random numbers and home/away favs/dogs?

Judging by the length of this and other post-Daliman threads where no-one can ever agree on what a Wong is or isn't, I wonder. This is one of the easier concepts, and I freely admit having to exert to grasp some intermediate-level ideas.

If you need Daliman to tell you what games are lined either 1.5,2,2.5,7.5,8,8.5 then you probably shouldn't be betting sports. If there isn't discussion of other teasers based on Wong's original idea then there isn't a reason for this thread to exist.

weeeeeeeee dodged colts/titans by randomness. dolphins/pats wong middle 1 time!

peoples' heads are going to blow up when they realize Penn State is going to be one of the best legs of this coming weekend

i count 5 teasable college home favs this wknd

so i guess that means blindly betting home dogs is profitable?????? or maybe road favorites used to suck because books would purposely give bad lines on them but now the lines are more efficient due to the internet and just the amount of volume that road favorites are fine

also never tease on or against jacksonville i think they're like 0-90 whenever they're involved

No, there is a big difference between a home dog of +7.5 and a home dog of +1.5.

Good luck with your road favorite teasers if you don't middle them with a ML.