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Old 07-28-2017, 02:16 PM   #101
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Re: Who are the legit top sports bettors?

Don't forget George Mahaven aka Groovin Mahoovin aka the UltiCuCk he is one of the top sprots bettors in the world.
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Old 07-28-2017, 02:16 PM   #102
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If someone can't utilize the service or doesn't find value in it, they can cancel and get a refund at anytime.
So the customer determines value?
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Old 07-28-2017, 02:51 PM   #103
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Re: Who are the legit top sports bettors?

RA,

Umm... Those are exactly those limits. Not sure what you're arguing. Limits are 20-50% of full.

What do you think overnights mean?
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Old 07-28-2017, 05:14 PM   #104
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Dude you are pathetic.

Why don't you ask some of the AP players that finally figured out my 1h and 2h NBA total "system" in 2015 what it would have been worth to have that information back in 2000 when I discovered it.

You can ask Jan PerpCzech (figured it out in 2015) or Evan (figured it out last year) or anyone actually in the know who actually bets on the NBA.

(which btw was only about 20% of yearly profit on an NBA season, so ya I could still win if I wanted to).

But hey sorry I didn't post the entire model / blueprint online so everyone could cut into my bottom line or the bookmakers could adjust.



Also I'm guessing this guy is just full of it as well. He was just the head linesmaker at pinny, I'm sure you are much more in the know than him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE1z6fb-oIo


I'm actually retired from betting on NBA for a few reasons
(being able to win isn't one of them) owning Nitrogen or any other sportsbook isn't the reason either. But I could be persuaded to come out of retirement if it was worth my time.

So the laughingstock of the gambling world has a legit proposition for you (again as I've offered this before).


If I really can't win I have a simple proposition for you, round up a min of of $1M and lets escrow the money, we can put it in a multi sig bitcoin wallet or a smart contract.

You post lines and I'll lay -110.

I'll bet a minimum of 50k on Full Game sides and totals 25k on 1h or halftime sides and totals. I won't ever bet before noon EST (accept for afternoon games).

Gather up all the other guys who are convinced I can't win betting NBA, I'd much rather bet more (100 and 50 would be nice) but hey I highly doubt you have enough money or enough friends to make that happen so if all you can do is 50 and 25 that will likely work.

If you are worried about the legalities of it I am sure we can figure something out that alleviates your concerns.

I don't live in the USA so there really shouldn't be any issues for you.



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All your picks are released in low limits (AKA overnight limits) barring the handful of late release for unknown reasons that have no equity.



Hbob,

You may not realize this, but you're an ongoing joke to the professional community because you're a pathological liar. Did you make that money from the $75k future bet you placed? Which book was it at btw? Maybe it was those Avery Johnson 2H unders where you magically bet the 50% of games where it went under and skipped the 50% that went over?

What did you ever settle on the final iteration of how EL owed you money? You seem to have gone through several permutations of that story.
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Old 07-28-2017, 05:25 PM   #105
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Re: Who are the legit top sports bettors?

Welcome back Mr.Haralabos a true inspiration your betting journey and work ethic,My take on this subject is : “Everybody pities the weak; jealousy you have to earn.”
THis proposition sounds exciting but i doubt Mihkel has the funds
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Old 07-28-2017, 05:35 PM   #106
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Welcome back Mr.Haralabos a true inspiration your betting journey and work ethic,My take on this subject is : “Everybody pities the weak; jealousy you have to earn.”
THis proposition sounds exciting but i doubt Mihkel has the funds
Maybe he can start a kickstarter or crowdfund? Seems like an easy way to make money for him. This is a gambling forum right? If you have a strongly held opinion on something but don't put your $ behind that opinion even when getting laid 11 to 10 what does that make you?
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Old 07-28-2017, 05:39 PM   #107
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So are you conceding that was all bull**** you previously posted? (The Lakers bet, Avery Johnson stuff, the 2m assumed EL debt, being the primary investor and doing a bunch of work for WS, basically everything you post)

I have no idea whether what you just posted is true or not, and I have no doubt that you can find someone who wants a ton of off screen action (who doesn't), so I'm not sure what that prop bet would solve. I am just amused at your continual stream of nonsense and lies, and how you're bizarrely deified yet have made repeatedly idiotic comments that are demonstrably dishonest/false. Must be hard to keep track of all the lies.
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Old 07-28-2017, 05:51 PM   #108
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the head linesmaker at pinny took Haralabos Bets and said the guy was a legend in the video above,please stop beeing a detractor and eiither put some skin in the game or prove something.This guy is a legend
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Old 07-28-2017, 05:59 PM   #109
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the head linesmaker at pinny took Haralabos Bets and said the guy was a legend in the video above,please stop beeing a detractor and eiither put some skin in the game or prove something.This guy is a legend
Their current NBA trader said he was good at 2h's and that's it. Congrats, but even I can beat that market.
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:03 PM   #110
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So are you conceding that was all bull**** you previously posted? (The Lakers bet, Avery Johnson stuff, the 2m assumed EL debt, being the primary investor and doing a bunch of work for WS, basically everything you post)

I have no idea whether what you just posted is true or not, and I have no doubt that you can find someone who wants a ton of off screen action (who doesn't), so I'm not sure what that prop bet would solve. I am just amused at your continual stream of nonsense and lies, and how you're bizarrely deified yet have made repeatedly idiotic comments that are demonstrably dishonest/false. Must be hard to keep track of all the lies.
Lakers bet was true, I never claimed I bet it at one spot the biggest bet was placed with SportsMarket, 2nd biggest amount was with Oly.

The Avery Johnson angle was betting 2h under or in game under when he held a big league. Not sure how that was confusing, he basically micromanaged every possession when he was winning.

The EL thing he's never denied my version of it. He even did an interview / article confirming it for Bluff, You can google search it.

So now you think i'm a fraud who just so happens to have access to a model or good information and needs offscreen outs.

In your version I'd just be moving someone else's games? Who's NBA model would I be betting I'm curious, you are so in the know.

Who wins on NBA? Who's plays would I be betting.

There are so many people who are beating full game sides and Totals at -110, its really easy insn't it. Everyone who is looking for bigtime offscreen outs to play NBA in the past was probably bearding for me or Zach. Thats it there isn't anyone else who is playing FG sides and totals and winning.

How about if I play no earlier than 30 mins before post, we can add that stipulation if you like, but I'd need the bigger amount 100 and 50 minimum.

Surely if I was just bearding for someone else the numbers would already have moved by then right? Unless you are saying I have total control over the model and market. Is that what you are saying?

if that was the case what would that make me?

Also I'm curious as to why you had no comment on the video I posted?

Dude you are a loser who has nothing better to do than troll actually successful people on the internet. You are a sad anonymous fool and I pity the pathetic little life you've carved out for yourself.
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:08 PM   #111
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Their current NBA trader said he was good at 2h's and that's it. Congrats, but even I can beat that market.
Looks like we have another candidate, you can partner up with Mikhel and all the other non-believers and just print money taking the other side of my "lies".

Here is the offer;

-110
Min. of 100 on FG sides and totals, 50 on 1h stuff (no 2h bets then if you like).
I will play a 3:2 ratio of Full Game to 1h action

What say you?
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:13 PM   #112
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Re: Who are the legit top sports bettors?

I'm not here to watch random videos you link.

I'm not sure why EL would even need to dispute your story (which story tho? You've told several), you've contradicted yourself publicly. Beyond that you contradicted yourself above with your role at WS and the amount of the sale.

Again, you wanna turn this into "Hey lets have a million dollar prop bet". I guess you retired this year? Or were you hiring a programmer last year to just fulfill your need for play charting as a hobby?

I don't care how you made your money. You could be sucking dick, or turning out that gf of yours. My thesis is simple, I am amused by the repeated bull**** you spout and how your stream of lies is difficult for you to remember resulting in more amusement for myself.
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:18 PM   #113
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Also I'm guessing this guy is just full of it as well. He was just the head linesmaker at pinny, I'm sure you are much more in the know than him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE1z6fb-oIo
You are using Marco Freaking D'Angelo as a credible source? This Marco D'Angelo?

http://www.ozy.com/rising-stars/marc...nds-down/38847

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Overall, he wins — like most sports gamblers at the very top — between 57 and 58 percent of the time, a difference that has allowed him to create a tidy business with thousands of wannabe sports wagerers following him. And let’s not forget the time some years ago that he managed to go on a 25-game winning streak while betting on pro baseball games, something veteran Vegas bookmaker Chris Andrews says “borders on the impossible.”
Counteroffer - I will escrow 5 million of BTC vs your 2 million that Marco picks the ROI equivalent of under 56% at -110 over his next 1000 sold picks. This should be an easy bet for you at +250 since you only need >= 56% to win and he picks 57-58%.

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Old 07-28-2017, 06:18 PM   #114
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Looks like we have another candidate, you can partner up with Mikhel and all the other non-believers and just print money taking the other side of my "lies".

Here is the offer;

-110
Min. of 100 on FG sides and totals, 50 on 1h stuff (no 2h bets then if you like).
I will play a 3:2 ratio of Full Game to 1h action

What say you?
Like I said I'm a poor that bets 2h.

Maybe Iowa! will prop bet you.
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:22 PM   #115
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You are using Marco Freaking D'Angelo as a credible source? This Marco D'Angelo?

http://www.ozy.com/rising-stars/marc...nds-down/38847



Counteroffer - I will happily escrow 5 million vs your 2 million that Marco picks the ROI equivalent of under 56% at -110 over his next 1000 picks he sells. This should be an easy bet for you at +250 since you only need > 56% to win and he picks 57-58%.
You must be dense,

I wasn't using Marco, I was using the guy who was the heads linesmaker at Pinnacle. Big difference.
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:29 PM   #116
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You must be dense,

I wasn't using Marco, I was using the guy who was the heads linesmaker at Pinnacle. Big difference.
So you concede Marco is a liar about picking 57-58%, yet we're supposed to trust his sources?
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:30 PM   #117
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Hbob,

Based on my off the cuff math, if you were betting every game in 04, you'd have been in for ~250k per game.

But then Nitrogen robs you for 8k a couple years ago?

Brutal.
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:30 PM   #118
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Another elite sports bettor is Jafar aka George Jacob Meng. He has been a handicapping partner with, and been stiffed by, both legends posting in this thread, Haralabos Voulgaris and Edward Golden/RAS.
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:33 PM   #119
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Those calls were great. RIP Jafarabob.
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:40 PM   #120
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Looks like we have another candidate, you can partner up with Mikhel and all the other non-believers and just print money taking the other side of my "lies".

Here is the offer;

-110
Min. of 100 on FG sides and totals, 50 on 1h stuff (no 2h bets then if you like).
I will play a 3:2 ratio of Full Game to 1h action

What say you?
Mikhel and Sabaneta.a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.http://crowdfund.co/ And please check the video its around the 8th min.
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:58 PM   #121
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Mikhel and Sabaneta.a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.http://crowdfund.co/ And please check the video its around the 8th min.
Just need Jafarabob to show up again next year with his NBA 2h bets and we can all print money.
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Old 07-28-2017, 07:10 PM   #122
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We just need someone to give us 10x screen limits so we can smash the wrong side with a marked account and come in for 10x the other way.

That'll really show them how sick my NBA model is.
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Old 07-28-2017, 07:21 PM   #123
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I don't understand why everyone is so angry, but if you want to bet I would be willing to do 1 million on either of the following to refute this claim:

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a) Season long NBA bet against FG Sides and total with some min number of bets (say 150).
b) Head to head season long against FG sides and total, both starts with same amount of money and limits of say Pinny, whoever ends the season with most $ wins.

I would prefer to keep the escrow in something more stable than cryptocurrency - I'm sure escrowing 2 million would be able to get us a decent rate on the money. If you (or anyone) is interested let me know and we can work out the details.
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Old 07-28-2017, 07:28 PM   #124
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Who wins on NBA? Who's plays would I be betting.

There are so many people who are beating full game sides and Totals at -110, its really easy insn't it. Everyone who is looking for bigtime offscreen outs to play NBA in the past was probably bearding for me or Zach. Thats it there isn't anyone else who is playing FG sides and totals and winning.
Erin Rynning crushes the books and you can buy his picks for only a couple thousand dollars for the entire season.

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Old 07-28-2017, 07:29 PM   #125
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I don't understand why everyone is so angry, but if you want to bet I would be willing to do 1 million on either of the following to refute this claim:



a) Season long NBA bet against FG Sides and total with some min number of bets (say 150).
b) Head to head season long against FG sides and total, both starts with same amount of money and limits of say Pinny, whoever ends the season with most $ wins.

I would prefer to keep the escrow in something more stable than cryptocurrency - I'm sure escrowing 2 million would be able to get us a decent rate on the money. If you (or anyone) is interested let me know and we can work out the details.
Would you be willing to book George Mahaven's horse racing touts?
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