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Old 07-12-2017, 11:03 AM   #76
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Re: Who are the legit top sports bettors?

I knew bookies took in racing picks didn't realise for sports too ey
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Old 07-12-2017, 12:07 PM   #77
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Re: Who are the legit top sports bettors?

Its hard to tell whether they were aggressively front running their picks or selling to bookies.

I'm inclined to think its the former, but could be the latter.
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Old 07-13-2017, 04:09 PM   #78
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only reason legit SB sell picks is for equity. But thats not really a tout .....
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Old 07-13-2017, 05:29 PM   #79
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Re: Who are the legit top sports bettors?

What?
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Old 07-15-2017, 08:00 PM   #80
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Re: Who are the legit top sports bettors?

It should be pretty obvious to anyone by now that RAS doesn't really beat sides, but from what I understand you can decide to only get the totals. I always thought their totals plays were ok although I faded a few of them last year and did extremely well. Either way to win a decent amount you need to get the release number which has got to be almost impossible. Even offscreens now usually scrape cris or pin so you need to be really quick with those too and it's a great way to blow up perfectly good paying accounts that would gladly book winning action for a decent time period if it came from anywhere else.
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Old 07-15-2017, 08:06 PM   #81
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Wouldn't it be sick if some service decided to go rogue one year and release all their plays on the wrong side, fading the steam moves to easy profit? I feel like that would be the best way to go out.
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Old 07-16-2017, 02:17 AM   #82
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Maybe that's what B Lang is doing. A career 46% tout would seem impossible, but he actually is.
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Old 07-19-2017, 11:24 PM   #83
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Wouldn't it be sick if some service decided to go rogue one year and release all their plays on the wrong side, fading the steam moves to easy profit? I feel like that would be the best way to go out.
I often wondered this myself.
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Old 07-22-2017, 05:48 PM   #84
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Re: Who are the legit top sports bettors?

Tony Bloom(Soccer,Owner of Brighton Albion currently premier league club)Billy Walters,Harabalos Voulgaris(NBA) and zeljko ranogajec (Aussie,Horse Racing) are the top bettors in the world,the legends of the industry the ones who themselves only have shattered thousands if not millions of negative EV bettors
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Old 07-22-2017, 09:00 PM   #85
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Tony Bloom(Soccer,Owner of Brighton Albion currently premier league club)Billy Walters,Harabalos Voulgaris(NBA) and zeljko ranogajec (Aussie,Horse Racing) are the top bettors in the world,the legends of the industry the ones who themselves only have shattered thousands if not millions of negative EV bettors

Bookies masquerading as +EV sports bettors don't count.
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Old 07-23-2017, 08:59 AM   #86
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The weirdest part is Hbob ran the softest book on the planet.
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Old 07-23-2017, 04:27 PM   #87
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He still does. Easier though when you can just steal winners coins.
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Old 07-24-2017, 08:36 AM   #88
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His rep is v v weird. Considering he's openly lied about basically everything and Nitrogen just robs every winner with super flimsy excuses.
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Old 07-24-2017, 08:26 PM   #89
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What evidence do you guys have that Hbob is involved with nitro?
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Old 07-27-2017, 02:11 PM   #90
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Friend sent me this link - You guys are idiots if you think I own nitrogen - would not recommend them - 2 years ago they froze about 35 coins from me because they said i was syndicate betting (when in reality others were just following my plays at their book).

Its also comical that you guys think I got rich from my investment in WS which was a tiny book that basically stopped marketing entirely once paypal got out of the business. Spiro ended up paying under 2m for it and I had a small percentage of that.

Carry on with the other nonsense, if anyone knows who the real owners of Nitro I'd be happy to know because as I said they owe me the bitcoins they froze / stole from back in 2015.

Also how hard would it be for them to just change the freaking line after they took a limit bet?
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Old 07-27-2017, 10:51 PM   #91
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Friend sent me this link - You guys are idiots if you think I own nitrogen - would not recommend them - 2 years ago they froze about 35 coins from me because they said i was syndicate betting (when in reality others were just following my plays at their book).

Its also comical that you guys think I got rich from my investment in WS which was a tiny book that basically stopped marketing entirely once paypal got out of the business. Spiro ended up paying under 2m for it and I had a small percentage of that.
Does your friend know you've been outed as a half time / in running NBA bettor and you actually are full of **** on pretty much *everything* you have publicly posted?
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Old 07-27-2017, 11:06 PM   #92
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Re: Who are the legit top sports bettors?

We haven't released overnights in over a decade.

There are pros and cons to the service, and fewer people are able to follow all play types successfully (line moves, out sustainability, cost of service) in recent years, but we clearly win enough to provide solid value to the ones who can.
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Old 07-27-2017, 11:11 PM   #93
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We haven't released overnights in over a decade.

There are pros and cons to the service, and fewer people are able to follow all play types successfully (line moves, out sustainability, cost of service) in recent years, but we clearly win enough to provide solid value to the ones who can.
but do you release FCS plays when the limit is $20 and act like they are a full unit?
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Old 07-27-2017, 11:17 PM   #94
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but do you release FCS plays when the limit is $20 and act like they are a full unit?
The limit is never $20 when we release them, we clearly designate FCS win/losses on the site even though they are counted as part of the overall record, and we're 34-32 on them L5 years so not like it is even boosting our records.

Also, clients can easily opt out of those types of plays or any others whenever they want.
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Old 07-27-2017, 11:22 PM   #95
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2 years ago they froze about 35 coins from me because they said i was syndicate betting (when in reality others were just following my plays at their book).
You had 35 coins in nitrogen in 2015 when you were supposedly betting millions per play?

dont overstep coltrane.
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:14 AM   #96
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We haven't released overnights in over a decade.

There are pros and cons to the service, and fewer people are able to follow all play types successfully (line moves, out sustainability, cost of service) in recent years, but we clearly win enough to provide solid value to the ones who can.
All your picks are released in low limits (AKA overnight limits) barring the handful of late release for unknown reasons that have no equity.

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Friend sent me this link - You guys are idiots if you think I own nitrogen - would not recommend them - 2 years ago they froze about 35 coins from me because they said i was syndicate betting (when in reality others were just following my plays at their book).

Its also comical that you guys think I got rich from my investment in WS which was a tiny book that basically stopped marketing entirely once paypal got out of the business. Spiro ended up paying under 2m for it and I had a small percentage of that.

Carry on with the other nonsense, if anyone knows who the real owners of Nitro I'd be happy to know because as I said they owe me the bitcoins they froze / stole from back in 2015.

Also how hard would it be for them to just change the freaking line after they took a limit bet?
Hbob,

You may not realize this, but you're an ongoing joke to the professional community because you're a pathological liar. Did you make that money from the $75k future bet you placed? Which book was it at btw? Maybe it was those Avery Johnson 2H unders where you magically bet the 50% of games where it went under and skipped the 50% that went over?

What did you ever settle on the final iteration of how EL owed you money? You seem to have gone through several permutations of that story.
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Old 07-28-2017, 12:27 PM   #97
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All your picks are released in low limits (AKA overnight limits)
That is simply not true. We're not releasing CFB at CRIS/Pinn max gameday limits, but we aren't releasing CRIS/BO openers or something either. We always release into reasonably mature markets that include most offscreens.

I know there are exceptions, but most sites utilized by RAS bettors aren't changing their limits during the week anyway.
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Old 07-28-2017, 01:00 PM   #98
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Nice ad hominem Mihkel but still waiting for any evidence of these rumors you and the gang(Sabaneta etc) perpetuate

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What evidence do you guys have that Hbob is involved with nitro?
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Old 07-28-2017, 01:08 PM   #99
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That is simply not true. We're not releasing CFB at CRIS/Pinn max gameday limits, but we aren't releasing CRIS/BO openers or something either. We always release into reasonably mature markets that include most offscreens.

I know there are exceptions, but most sites utilized by RAS bettors aren't changing their limits during the week anyway.
No. You releas into red circle Pinny/overnight CRIS limits.

But hey, you're the one with the sterling rep.
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Old 07-28-2017, 01:44 PM   #100
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No. You releas into red circle Pinny/overnight CRIS limits.
CFB sides: Monday morning or later
CFB totals: Wed afternoon or later
CBB sides: Game day morning or later
CBB totals: Game day afternoon or later

Those aren't markets comparable to red circle Pinny/overnight CRIS limits, or even close, but anyway it is all relative. If someone can't utilize the service or doesn't find value in it, they can cancel and get a refund at anytime.
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