Basically this. I learned a lot more about gambling and life from sports betting than I ever did from poker.

Although I didn't make *that* much money.

There is an ongoing meme about poker players and it isn't unwarranted. Didn't DS show up and post some troll comment about EV? I can (along with anyone with basic mathematical competency) dress him down on any subject regarding BR optimization.

If anything, I'd say my comments from years ago are way out of date and unless you "Wanna be a pro" (in which case >0 amount of money or credit can get you there), you should prob seriously reconsider your options. If you are Poogs with a bare min ability to get a job and need to grind locals for a few years, great. Or perhaps you are one of the most mathematically inept bettors to every post on this forum. Yet he still "allegedly" makes money after his career panhandling for money to gamble.

Look thremp I understand you don't like me and all that and that i'm not an all time sportsbetting great but if you don't believe I can pick off soft local books for a decent profit you're more than welcome to book my action assuming i'm getting the lines from my soft local books that i'm actually making money at. I never claimed to be crushing Pinny for millions (which would actually require talent), i've stated that i'm beating Aussie books for a decent but not enormous amount by exploiting their slow moves and soft markets. We can use actual book limits if you want so you know i'm not picking off $500 markets or whatever.

If you legitimately don't believe my results are real you're more than welcome to book my action on the actual books I use. Nothing I have claimed to be doing is impressive at all, anyone who understands 'try and beat the exchanges/pinny closing line' who has access to the outs I have could do it. I have no idea why are the way you are, it's baffling that you think the way you interact with other people is normal.

As I have said again many times, you're not to be taken seriously,

Why don't you take the same HBOBLOL challenge offered to me. 1m escrowed. 25k 1h and 100k on FG. You are super poor so w/e. But the more amusing part is that you don't even know why that challenge is obviously bull****. If he was such a sick ****, why wouldn't he offer me his lines? Or generic?

Frankly you lack table stakes for most talks bust insst on being a part. Why? Are you lazy, stupid or just a leech?

Right, i've openly said I only have a low six figure roll which is not a million dollars. So i'm a poor and not worth your time, whatever, hopefully I have a seven figure bankroll within a few years if things go well. Your need to cast 'doubt' onto my admittedly unimpressive accomplishments in sports betting just because you don't like me is just pathetic. Anyone with half a brain can make money sports betting if they have access to the right outs. I'm doing that. Good for me. If I recall the last time we interacted this extensively the mods forced you to retract false claims you made about me so let's just end the interaction here with you calling me poor and stupid and me calling you a weird dude with no idea how to socially interact with humans.

If it will end the interaction i'll say that I may have been incorrect with my estimate as to how often someone with 3k living expenses would go broke with a 20k roll, 3% roi and 200k a month turnover. I'm not going to bother revising my estimate or running sims or whatever, so i'll just say 'it's probably not wise to attempt with 20k, it's possible but there's obviously a good chance you go broke' and move on.

What happened to your statement about never posting outside of MMA thread?

Was that... a lie?

Which Australian bookies are you picking off profitably every year without getting banned?

seems weird where everyone else gets banned after 1-3 bets...

good question,probably he uses pseudo accounts

I often wondered who was steaming preseason NHL .

That's $4.2m/yr in Iowa or $8.3m/yr nationally for the median. [2013 data]

I'm actually impressed.

Swoop, my man, youve got to stop defending and explaining yourself with these massively long posts to this guy and everyone else. You said it yourself, youre doing fine gambling. Why do you feel such an intense need to prove it to anyone? And to thremp no less, a guy who hates you and who you hate.

I'm at 52.7% over thousands of bets... whohoooooooo... flipping coins ftw

Below is the copy paste of the free picks from bettingresource's google group, its a monster dog.

ATP Tennis: Shenzhen Open R16: Darcis ML (6.00) vs A. Zverev. Also smaller amount on Darcis -1.5 Sets (10.44)
Darcis has been in Shenzhen for a few days now he already played the 1st round 2 days ago. Zverev on the other hand just arrived in Shenzhen. He played in the Laver cup in Prague on 24th and took the long trip to Shenzen, China the following day. This is only a 250 tournament and he is most likely there for appearance fee. His ranking already clinched for the ATP finals in November and therefore his motivation here is questionable. Even if he is motivated, the long travel and jet lag will play a big role. Zverev has been in the western time zone for the past couple of months playing in North America and Europe and now flying to China and playing on short rest can leave a toll on even the top athletes. Darcis is no chump--he beat Zverev in Davis Cup this year and can repeat. If Darcis wins, it will most likely be in straight sets because if Zverev gets in the groove and wins a set, it will be hard to stop him after. At these big odds, both ml and straight set victory on Darcis holds good value.

Last night they swept with the below free plays:

ATP Tennis: Chengdu Open R16: Sugita -1.5 Sets (1.78) vs Monteiro
Monteiro is a clay courter who struggles in hard court. He almost lost to his easy first round opponent, a wild card ranked over 300. Sugita is playing excellent in hard and grass courts this year and his game should be no match for Monteiro's baseline game. Sugita recently trashed Monteiro in 3-0 straight sets in Davis cup and today it should be no different unless Sugita is up to some funny business--after all this game is happening in china!

ATP Tennis: Shenzhen Open R16: Zhang +1.5 Sets (2.29) vs Lorenzi. Also smaller amount on Zhang ML 4.73
There is excellent value in these odds. 36 year old Lorenzi will face off against a young local in Shenzhen in a very hot weather with temperatures around 33 degree celcius. Zhang already played 3 games in these courts, 2 qualifying matches and an impressive straight set win over DutraSilva in the 1st round. Zhang can easily take a set here and there is very good value in his moneyline odds as well since Lorenzi just arrived from St. Petersburgh, Russia.

Anybody knows blogabet.com ?

Seems to have some legit good ones

Yes. But the problem with blogabet is that all their top cappers are experts in sports such as hand ball or small time eastern europen soccer leagues or other small leagues where the betting limit in even books like pinnacle is around $250. And some of the leagues are so small, it snot even offered in books like pinnacle...you will need a square book like bet365 to bet all those picks but bet365 limits are so small, like $50 and they will kick out if you win. Those cappers charge very small fee compared to typical clueless american touts (these american touts are not handicappers, they are simply marketers who have no clue in capping games) and can show winning yield but its hard to profit from them. They themselves admit that they sell the tips to maximize their earning since they cannotbet the amount that they want to bet.

Most big even cappers are losing cappers or break even cappers at blogabet. But when you look at blogabet feed it would seem as if every one is in the plus but its misleading. Lot of those guys reset the record (a feature in blog bet) or create a new account when it piles up losses. SO in the feed back you will only see plus accounts, new plus accounts and the thousands of negative accounts will remain inactive as they go on to new accounts or reset the record. Blogabet bet takes comission on all sales by a tipster, so they won't do anything about the above mentioned problem because it would hurt their wallet.

I use blogabet to scan through for some good info for my own capping but don't really follow any cappers blindly. There are lot of misleading and crap info in the blogabet capper analysis but once in a while you can find some good info.

Hand ball is a bigger market than CFB totals on Tuesday.

EraseABet i think is the correct name of the site,sure there are maybe 0,5% good tipsters there but the site as a whole is awfull.
And even if you find the 0,5% good ones either the limits are low,or when they publish the price its a rat race
A good tout has customers restriction in a liquid market.
There are no good touts to follow basically,and if you find one do not tell anyone.

A good tout is someone who releases the pick on game day once the limit restrictions are removed by the book, he must release the pick using the line that is out there once the market is established. He must sell only the large market picks and the rest should be given free. This is exactly what bettingresource does, and that is why I love following them.

Sites like RAS will bash services like Bettingresource every chance they get because RAS, a marketer can never be a long term winning handicapper. RAS releases cfb and cbb picks as soon as the lines are posted by the books and when the limit is very low and the market is volatile, this is actually the best way to beat the books, but bad cappers will lose their ass off if they guess the market. RAS has now lost all 4 weeks of college football while charging clients nearly 4k for the first 4 weeks and he wants more money for the rest of the season. He will probably go on desperate chase mode rest of the way and it can turn out to be even more of a disaster. RAS himself claimed a while back that the first few weeks of the season are his best...if his best is losing 4 weeks in a row, imagine whats in store rest of the way!

Just checked Bettingresource. Looks so scammy. "Double your bankroll in two months". That´s such a shady advertisement. Also no history tab. Or at least I couldn´t find one. At blogabet odds are verified.

that is based on their results using their 3% conditional compounding strategy explained in their money management. That conditional compounding strategy is somewhat aggressive and they don't recommend using it long term but its recommended temporarily for bettors starting with small bankroll. If you read the money management you will understand.

Regardless of whats on their site, i joined a while back using the winnings from their free picks. I have never seen bettingresource advertise on any media outlets or go on lame podcasts and interviews etc. Their model of getting clients is through their free picks. They even say somewhere in one of their article to never pay for a service out of your pocket and that a good service will always help you make money first to cover atleast the cost of service.

If a service like RAS did that, RAS would never get a client.

You should be banned for shilling for an absurd staking strategy, not to mention a ****ty tout.

Please understand that the ''touts'' are scammers.
They have 2 sites. For example tonight GB/Chi

They'll advertise in one site that GB is the winning pick and at the other they will say Chi is the winning pick.

In this way they always keep half of the customers.

capice?


cliff notes: LOL! touts

glgl

betting resources charges 20k a year?An exam with the average followers IQ would be quite interesting.
If you want to make a great income via sports betting you need to beat pinnacle price by yourself.
There are no quick fixes,no magic touts,no easy way out,either you are a great modeller/handicapper or work hard picking off market numbers and finding outs.

The Bay Area beast is number one

I been reading through some Ganchrow material, guy is simply a stunning mind and was giving out some unreal sports betting theory way back in 2006. Is he a sports bettor himself? there was a thread saying he went to work for heritage. Obviously sports betting knowledge doesn't always equal top sports bettor for for many reasons mindset being one, or he might simply not enjoy betting, either way he wrote passionately about the game and was wondering what's the deal with him was he a bettor himself?