They will never believe thats why Haralabos is at the top and this guys are just forum bullies.You can never explain a small minded person how to think big.25 years old big edge on the lakers,nothing to lose why not?if he had a family ok but seems feasible to me,probably was not the right bet but at least he thought big and different and thats where this guys and Haralabos clash

Mihkel as recently as this year has has got outraged that as an inexperienced bettor at the time I tracked a couple of esports bets incorrectly in a several year old thread that was for entertainment purposes only at micro stakes and that I once took *gasp* a couple of days to pay out five figures in cashes in a poker package because Paypal froze my account for two days.

It's not about anything other than flinging anything he can think of at his whoever his chosen 'enemy' is to try and discredit them and he's been doing it to Hbob for years with no proof of any of his claims and now that Hbob is calling him out to prove his claims he has nothing to say other than vague deflections.

Mihkel/Thremp you're an absolute joke, you haven't provided any proof for any of your claims and you back off as soon as the guy you're calling out proposes a bet. Aren't you a millionaire who loves to call people poor? Shouldn't you love the chance to take on a so called 'fraud' in an escrowed bet?

The only explanation is that you are a jealous of Hbob or you're just trying to damage people's reputations for your own amusement which would just make you a ****ty human being. You dress it up under the guise of 'protecting the community from scammers' but then target people with claims that you don't/can't prove or random statements that are completely irrelevant and in some cases defamatory. This is not exclusive to any one target either although you've been slandering Hbob for years. Remember when the mods literally forced you to retract your false and defamatory statements about me?

Hbob could probably sue you for defamation for the statements you've made without proof (allegations of owning an illegal sportsbook, etc) and instead of retracting or providing proof when confronted you just make vague unrelated statements and claims then deflect on to a new accusation without apologising or retracting.

It's sad and pathetic.

Swoop,

Did you not state that you were no longer posting outside of the MMA thread? What made you renege on your word?

All that aside

Why do you guys need to defend yourselves/him on an online forum?

Where does that need come from? If posting facts is not going to change his mind then what? Why does his opinion even matter to you all?

Mihkel, put up or shut up. Thanks.

Has Coltranedog provided name of book which took original 70K Lakers bet ?

The Brit who sold everything and bet it all on red was well-documented - self-documented actually ( but he's still an idiot ). I suppose these plays are not unheard of but it reads like some Hollywood script.

If you have a gambling background from childhood, and you think you have an edge, surely you're smart enough to know you need to apply that edge across many trials. Sure I can see a young guy taking off from a tough manual business like skycap to bet sports with initial bankroll of $70K but why put entire savings into a single bet ? That seems like a life play only made by someone who didn't think they had real skill and work-ethic translatable to a consistent edge. It's a Hail Mary play and I can't think of any other gamblers who claim to have got started like this.

Every article I read about Hobolaros only cites himself as source of info. Maybe journalists didn't make an effort , but still seems could find a source such as a book employee, ex-employee of Horabolos, fellow bettor, insider at an online site, etc.

Gamblers ( and hedge fund managers ) in hindsight have been known to grossly exaggerate their abilities and mis-attribute their sources of funds. Presenting the image of having money is a magnet critical to success at accumulating more of the stuff.

Then there's the Lance Armstrong thing.

^ He admitted it was stupid later on

but hey it propelled him to greatness

Haha, he can't help himself.

I said I had no intention of it moving forward as the rest of the sportsbetting forum had become a cesspool and a circle jerk for your so called "millionaire's club"

I changed my mind because you're slandering another person for no reason and with no proof yet again for the millionth time

Also if you're not aware of how the internet works I don't need your permission to post on the public forum. Nobody respects you, and you're pathetic.

This

Put up or shut up, you pathetic coward. Prove or retract your claims.

Swoop,

Bob has openly admitted working for/owning an illegal sportsbook. Hence saying he was an illegal bookmaker would be 100% accurate.

What am I suppose to prove? That as an expert, someone who claims to have bet 75k on a 6-1 future 7+ years after the fact with zero evidence is not likely to tell the truth? I don't have to retract anything. I can, however, state unequivocally that his prior comments about his involvement with WS are not reflective of his comments ITT.

Best of luck with your internet policing.

That's some mighty fine projection you have going on there

Could you explain the above quote?

From my understanding it seems like you were not going to post, but felt the need to post here because you wanted to white knight bobbo against my slander (sic), which ironically might actually be libelous since you are not an SME and its defamation per se. However, I doubt there are any actual damages that I can claim considering your station and the effect this has on me.

...lol

I guess that is your way of retracting your claims?

Thanks! Glad to see you're taking the honest and truthful path as of now.

I give you; Thremp

Do you still think he owns nitro (or w/e the theory du jour is)?

No conversation about the top sports bettors is complete without mentioning Steve Fenic aka Steve Fezzik. The guy won the Hilton five times, including twice back to back, and our own Daliman can confirm he absolutely crushes the books. He quite literally bankrupted several Nevada casinos on his own!

But do you pay your child support?

Are you active in the field of butt darts?

This is still relatively easy even if one is only 1/2 as connected as you seem to be. I find it odd that you require a min bet of 250k to maintain interest in betting when you outed yourself as a nit on Twitter during last years playoffs (since deleted) by admitting that your largest bet of all time was "only" in the neighborhood of 600k but to each their own.

Where did I say that I would require 250k in order to continue betting? I was replying to the "off the cuff math" comment. I never implied nor stated that was the size of my average (or minimum needed) unit.

Maybe he changed his mind. Did he need your permission? Have you ever considered counseling? That's not a troll. Perhaps taking a break from forums and seeking out some professional guidance could make living day to day more satisfying for you and ease your pain.

Hbob getting ganged up on by the so-called chat room millionaire awesome & cool guys, who, by pure coincidence I am sure, are always on the same side of every single argument they get into 100% of the time. And Hbob demolishing them, one by one, point by point. Talk about a bully getting his cumupins!

One thing Mr Voulgaris; could you address the Avery Johnson half time bets? As I said before, there didnt seem to be any noticeable moves in the line subsets and at the correct date and time that you claim to have been crushing.

Bad reading comp on my part I guess but yeah 250k isn't a huge problem unless the game is red circled, which tbf at this point is usually ~50% of all NBA games.

Sup Poogs, or Poogs slightly less inbred cousin? Only in your world does a bunch of people talking past each other = a demolishing.

Eagerly awaiting heads up for rollz