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Old 04-26-2021, 12:58 AM   #26
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Re: Traveling to Nevada to place a bet

Bookmaker probably has it
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Old 04-26-2021, 05:34 AM   #27
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Bookmaker maybe......jokes aside sweating this in .....cant find the market on super quick look in OZ markets ....

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Old 04-26-2021, 11:50 AM   #28
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Bookmaker has it. Current limit is max win of 1k. I imagine that will increase sometime during the week. They also allow unlimited rebets.
Why would they allow unlimited rebets and not just let you place a larger bet? Do they get transaction fees for each bet? I googled rebet but didnít find anything. Thanks!
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Old 04-26-2021, 12:02 PM   #29
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Why would they allow unlimited rebets and not just let you place a larger bet? Do they get transaction fees for each bet? I googled rebet but didnít find anything. Thanks!
Unlimited rebets once they move the line (which happens automatically after you bet.)

So if you bet the max at +250, the line moves to say +225, then you can bet the max again, line moves to +200, you can bet the max again, etc ad nauseum.

You might think, "so what, everyone lets you do that" but most places actually do not, especially on props.
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Old 04-26-2021, 12:19 PM   #30
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gl op

any reason for this conviction?
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Old 04-26-2021, 03:51 PM   #31
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Unlimited rebets once they move the line (which happens automatically after you bet.)

So if you bet the max at +250, the line moves to say +225, then you can bet the max again, line moves to +200, you can bet the max again, etc ad nauseum.

You might think, "so what, everyone lets you do that" but most places actually do not, especially on props.
Ok yes understand 100%. Thanks for clarifying
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Old 04-26-2021, 04:35 PM   #32
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Bookmaker has it. Current limit is max win of 1k. I imagine that will increase sometime during the week. They also allow unlimited rebets.
+1 bookmaker is a solid book, the rebets may drop the line by 1 or 2 points maximum, if you bet enough. but i doubt for 5k it will
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Old 04-26-2021, 07:19 PM   #33
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gl op

any reason for this conviction?
Tl;dr - faster decision maker than fields and itís not even close.
Just as fast as fields at least at top speed.
Way faster than mac Jones
Doesnít have a DUI
Niners need a mobile QB or they canít beat Arizona, Seattle, Buffalo, ravens etc. with any regularity.
Most knocks on Lance from sportscenter and NFL TV are lazy reporting and/or Guys who donít have enough time to go in depth on one player.

So many reasons. The more I keep digging the more reasons I find.

Not his fault heís at an FCS school: went to small high school - big conferences wanted him as a linebacker or tight end (I think other positions too) he said no thank you Iím a quarterback.

NDSU was pumped to get him as a QB.

He destroyed the FCS as a redshirt freshman because it was way too easy for him. 2019 he played 16 games went undefeated, 28 passing TDs, 14 rushing TDs, ZERO INTERCEPTIONS, 16 wins, zero losses, First freshman to ever win the Walter Payton award, first FCS player to ever leave early for the NFL draft (and a top pick at that).

To me that says it was just too easy and he should have been recruited as a QB somewhere in the power five. After that season I think any college coach from a power five conference would admit that yes that was an oversight.

2020 he played one game due to covid (team cut season super short) and everyone is saying well he had a bad game. He threw a pick and took 3 sacks. Well he went 15/30 2 TDs and 1 INT (first and only INT of college career), rushed for TWO MORE TDs, rushed for 143 yards and won the game.

By the way I didnít know this but in college sacks count against your rushing stats and in the pros they donít. During that crazy 2019 season he still had 1100 rushing yards.

NDSU runs a pro style offense and I think they tailor it to the skill set of the QB. Lance can run so if you watch full games they call a lot of QB draw, QB lead, designed QB runs. But when theyíre not doing that, theyíre running a lot of play action and bootleg from UNDER CENTER. I donít have the stats but heís under center way more than all these other QBs that are constantly in the gun. Itís also been said that he has had the most responsibility of the QBs coming out this year because he has to call his own protections, audibles, plays in the huddle, and heís motioning dudes all over the place a la Kyle shannahan. His pass distribution is very heavy tight end usage and fullback usage a la Kyle shannahan but he can also throw deep to WRs something jimmy wasnít really capable of.

If Iím the niners and Iím building around guys Iíve resigned like kittle and Juszczyk Iím drooling thinking about all the stuff I donít have to coach him to do because heís already been doing it in college.

He has good awareness in the pocket and doesnít just run when he feels pressure. Heís got a nice pocket shuffle and calm demeanor under pressure with dudes in his face. If he does get flushed out of the pocket he can make it happen off platform a la Russell Wilson (something thatís been killing the niners on third down for years). Also like Russell Wilson his decision making is really really fast. When he decides to do something he pulls the trigger. Fields has a bit of a hitch when he throws he seems like heís always double checking his work for a split second which is good for taking tests but I donít think itís desirable for an NFL QB.

Heís not a choir boy but not a convict. Dude has a mean streak if you watch him punish DBs lowering the shoulder, It looks like he enjoys inflicting damage on his opponents and demoralizing them. You can see it in his body language after a big truck stick. He has this insanely huge tattoo across his back that says Godís Child which probably doesnít mean much to this forum but in an NFL locker room I think it shows that you donít fear pain, you donít fear death and you donít fear your opponent. John Lynch has said before when building a team they canít all be choir boys. Not a convict - has kept his nose extremely clean and doesnít have a DUI.

Biggest arm in the draft.

Can throw on the run

He hasnít and wonít run a 40 because they got him on GPS and it was already as fast as some of the fastest times run in the NFL.

Heís only 20 years old, still moldable and shapeable to whatever you want him to do. Still growing into his body and heís already 6í3 7/8Ē and 224lbs. He looks like a man child. Like a giant baby huey just ****ing people up out there. Yea that wonít translate 100% to the nfl when he has to square up with Aaron Donald but he will be able to withstand a lot of punishment and also dish a lot out to DBs.

NDSU produced Carson wentz. Say what you want but heís extremely decent and better than anything that came out of OSU in recent memory(sans Joe burrow). Probably better than Tua also which would I believe make him better than anything that came out of Alabama. This means that NDSU has a track record of recruiting and developing QBs and if lance flies that will be two in very recent memory. Even without knowing his NFL draft you can see how NDSU would be favorable for the growth of a QB that wants to be a better QB and not just a top college player that fizzles out at the next level.

Probably a lot more this is just off the top of my head I canít remember everything.


Things I consider to be legitimate downsides:

Doesnít slide ever and Justin fields knows how to slide and get out of bounds.

Not the most accurate passer in the draft. Heís not a surgeon but how bad could he be with zero interceptions. Usually when he misses, he misses where the defender canít get it. He has had some bad misses that should have been picks but havenít they all?

Wears a lightweight brace on his leg due to injury

Had a run late in the fourth quarter 4th down up by 7 against James Madison in the FCS final on a 4th and 2 the coach went for it designed QB sneak and trey came up just short. If James Madisonís offense was better, NDSU could have lost that game but the defense pulled them through. Iím big on clutch moments when it matters do you deliver and that was his biggest moment with a chance to put the game away with a first down and he didnít deliver. Havenít gotten to see him in many clutch moments because like I said FCS was too easy for him but he is good on third down which is a must in the NFL and usually translates to being good on 4th down and being clutch at the end of games.


Oh thereís even more stuff about how they are working him out now with a guy who used to be under shannahan and how the timing of when they made the trade up to two was right after treys pro day but before fields and Jones I think. The timeline early of the trade gave it away. Canít remember specifics but it sounded legit to me.
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Old 04-26-2021, 07:21 PM   #34
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Trade up to three*
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Old 04-27-2021, 02:09 PM   #35
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Shannahan and Lynch interview didnít shake me. Reading between the lines I donít think they gave anything away regarding who theyíre drafting. Kyle is such a smooth talker, probably would be a hell of a live poker player. There was one comment he said that doesnít fit my narrative which is when he was asked about ďcould he calm San Francisco fansí fears regarding mac Jones coming to the bayĒ he said ďI wish I could calm those fears but Iím making this decision to get the best quarterback.Ē Iím paraphrasing but yea that could be a slip or he could just be generalizing about the general fear of the fans that their guy wonít be picked because you canít please all the people all the time.

Also trey Lance did 3 interviews at least this morning, GMFB, first things first and niners nation. The guy talks like heís 30 years old and would do well in an interview at a Fortune 500.

No brainer if youíre the niners. Get this guy in the building, in your organization and he will elevate the program. Simple as that.
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Old 04-27-2021, 11:05 PM   #36
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Bookmaker odds +135.
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Old 04-28-2021, 11:51 AM   #37
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Adam schefter back pedaling this morning. It’s looking good boys
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Old 04-28-2021, 07:15 PM   #38
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+300 on Kambi. At least 4 Kambi books in Michigan. Maybe 5. And most of them have risk free first bets or similar promotions. IRL betting is for fish.

Also Lance 2nd overall is +4000 on MGM.

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Old 04-29-2021, 04:31 AM   #39
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+300 on Kambi. At least 4 Kambi books in Michigan. Maybe 5. And most of them have risk free first bets or similar promotions. IRL betting is for fish.

Also Lance 2nd overall is +4000 on MGM.
Is there a website that I can access from California?
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Old 04-29-2021, 04:39 AM   #40
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GL with the bet OP!

I am tailing for lunchmoney.

Several soft euro bookies have Trey Lance third pick overall +300 (Bookmaker.eu -162) while Pstars has Mac Jones at -250 (Bookmaker -292)
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Old 04-29-2021, 05:05 AM   #41
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GL with the bet OP!

I am tailing for lunchmoney.

Several soft euro bookies have Trey Lance third pick overall +300 (Bookmaker.eu -162) while Pstars has Mac Jones at -250 (Bookmaker -292)
Yeah I took a look and saw that bookmaker had two of the 4 choices at serious - money. How is that real lol, probably a fat finger of +/- 162?
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Old 04-29-2021, 10:52 AM   #42
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What is one soft euro bookie?
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Old 04-29-2021, 10:56 AM   #43
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Yeah I took a look and saw that bookmaker had two of the 4 choices at serious - money. How is that real lol, probably a fat finger of +/- 162?
Mainstream reports are saying itís down to two candidates now, Jones and trey lance. They story theyíre spinning is that they originally wanted Mac Jones so he is the favorite. However, lately trey lance has really been impressive the more they deep dive and as he interviews that itís making them do a double take.

I believe it was always lance and the media is starting to smell it because more and more people are saying itís going to be lance. Adam schefter was fed some bad information early on in this process and a lot of people jumped on the bandwagon with him. So now heís back pedaling and so are the rest of them.

It was always Lance. The 49ers leaked mac Jones as a pump fake and schefter took the bait
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Old 04-29-2021, 11:16 AM   #44
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What is one soft euro bookie?
It's an unnamed book in Europe that has soft lines generally. There are a lot of them that fit that description and you don't need to worry about them for your purposes as they don't accept Americans.
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Old 04-29-2021, 11:38 AM   #45
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Another $1240 bet on bookmaker at -149

Waiting for a few more bucks in crypto to clear and I’ll be all in.
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Old 04-29-2021, 11:51 AM   #46
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Another $1240 bet on bookmaker at -149

Waiting for a few more bucks in crypto to clear and Iíll be all in.
FYI, Betonline has Lance to go 3rd +275.
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Old 04-29-2021, 12:19 PM   #47
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FYI, Betonline has Lance to go 3rd +275.
Hey thanks for the response!

I maxed out at BOL and bovada. This was the only other site that has been recommended to me so Iím just dumping the rest here.
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Old 04-29-2021, 12:35 PM   #48
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in b4 Fields
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Old 04-29-2021, 01:01 PM   #49
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in b4 Fields
Yes this is my worst nightmare. I keep having visions of him being picked third and it breaking my heart but my head tells me I need to do this
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Old 04-29-2021, 01:03 PM   #50
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My last $362.67 at -139 on trey lance to go third. I’m all in
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