Some balls are more used than the other ones and they will be heavier and not flying as well as the new ones . They will just pick what they feel are the best ones to serve with . Also balls are changed every 7 games in the match , they will collect all balls in play during the break and put new pack of balls in play , advantage for the player first to serve with them .

Baghdatis was limping badly in the last 10 minutes of Ferrer match , had cramps in his legs . He usually gets those problems with his legs in long matches .
Hewitt has looked awful himself tho against Donald Young .
Not sure what to make out of it , maybe slight lean on Hewitt because of better fitness .

Betting on players like Blake , Haas , Berdych or Monfils will only make your hair go grey . They will start choking out of nowhere losing several games in a row , not closing out matches , wasting a lot of opportunities .
Tsonga will beat Haas IMO , I wouldn't waste any serious money on this one . Haas will not be able to handle Tsonga in best of 5 match on those courts .

Hantuchova vs Li is tough to predict , Hantuchova was close to going out in the first round as the + 1100 in play odds on her in the 3rd set suggest but she has turned it around , thanks to choking of her opponent . In the 2nd round she has looked much better .
The other way around for Na Li , looked good in the first round and like crap in the 2nd before turning it around .
I think Na Li might have mental toughness edge here so if things get close she could edge this one out .

Perfect example why one shouldn't bet money on Monfils :

1st set - looks like he wants to be in his bed instead of the tennis court , awful unforced errors , zero motivation , loses 1-6

2nd set - starts the same way , gets broken early but breaks back and suddenly he looks interested and plays well , won this set .

3rd set - still playing well , broke Isner and goes a break up . Gets broken serving for 5-2 lead , loses the set 6-7 .

4th set - nothing really happening here , looks like he just wants to get out of there , loses 6-7 again .


If not for live betting I would never watch matches with clowns like him . Glad I was able to get out in the 3rd when he got broken back and even made small profit instead of fat loss .
There is just no way to predict what he is going to do on the court.

Thanks TennisGuy, appreciate your expertise. My hair did turn a tinge gray the other night when I bet on Blake at +250 and he played it deep into the fifth set, so I know what you mean.

BOL

tonight I have a huge bet on Ivan Ljubicic and Marin Cilic, much more on Cilic actually, but gonna be up all night watching these pan out.

Going to watch the rest matches as well , Kim down 0-2 games and odds already up from 1.10 to 1.35 .
Cilic match going to be an interesting one I think .

LOL , make that 3.00 odds , 0-6 set and again 0-1 down .

Cilic is winning the games easily hope he closes this in 3 or 4 sets...i like my hair brown.

the balls are actually changed every nine games. they change after only the first seven games because they used those balls to warm up with.

the players are looking for the balls that are the hardest and have the least fuzziness to serve with.

happy, do you have a ytd anywhere?

while im in this thread, i like baghdadis at -106.

That's correct , ment to say first one is 7 and then 9 for the rest of the match .

Yes , I have ytd , most are parlays or handicap/total games tho I trade in-play at betfair most of other matches .


Australian Open : 17-12 + 8.9 units

YTD : 25-22 + 17.9 units

Bah, I wanted to cap the damn betfair line for No to first time winner for the men's tourney at the open. It's 1.84 right now which is essentially free money (unless you fear inconsistent in majors Murray that much)... Federer/Djoko is guaranteed finalist and you have Nadal on the other hand who can always take it down and Cilic/Roddick (winner is going to be dead tired, same for winner of Nadal/Murray). Anyway won't be betting this cause of the crap verifcation process for wthdrawin from AUS wallet which just tilted me when I read it (3 documentse each certified by a community leader, wtf is this ****??). Anyways free 1.2-1.25k as of me typing this, someone go take it .

On a sidenote anyone know another place having this same prop?

have you tried turning in the documents? betfair customer support is crap and all they do is copy-paste the same **** everytime i ask for an explanation.

and i think davydenko has a decent shot at taking down fed again.
he won the last 2 matches and looked to be riding the best momentum of his career while fed has lost his aura of invincibility.

Tsonga down to 24.00 from 65.00 , will let it ride atleast for today . He should have no trouble with Almagro . Roddick down to 20.00 , will be getting my money back from this one before his match with Cilic .

Nah, I didn't... I only sent driver's license as proof of address/age when I first deposited. I can withdraw fine fom the main wallet it's just the fkn AUS (wtf do they even have a different wallet for Autralian events...?) that needs more verification than a suspected terrorist leaving the country. They're asking for photo i.d. again, utility bill/bank statement etc. for x2 address verification (kinda messes me up since I have the accnt reg'd w my parents address and my bank statements/utility are at another address) then on top of this they want you to send them bank statements showing betfair transactions less than 3 months old (wtf? I use moneybookers for e-transactions, how am I suppose to show this?) or a cc statement of a reg'd card (which would be easier but I don't have one reg'd w them as of yet). Then they want a "community leader" to confirm (sign or w.e.?) that the documents you're sending are genuine (hai der mr. dentist, this might sound unusual but could you sign deez documents so this gambling site lets me place bets and withdraw my funds?)...

Yeah but you'e right about Davydenko he might cause a few upsets... still I don't rember the last time Federer didn't reach the semis. He always seems to bring his A game for the majors compared to lesser tourneys. You nearly have the top 3 players who have all won it still in the quarters. Line already went down to 1.66.

all the truly great champions such as sampras and fed bring their a-game in majors and i honestly want to see how fed does against davydenko this time.

i hope davydenko doesnt blow 2 set lead now against verdasco cuz fed will just hit verdasco off the court whereas against davydenko, it will at least be entertaining.

Old Davydenko is back on court , stupid errors , mental breakdown . OUCH
Will be interesting to see who got more left in the tank for 5th set .

Bet on all the matches apart from Tsonga, then saw you mention it as a very easy game. So much for not liking the grey hair players huh :P

I've thought it would be , anyway I didn't bet on him in that match , took him to win the tournament before it started at + 6500 odds so I needed him to win this easy or not .

Cilic might make some moves in this tourney... I put a bit on him earlier at ~70 to 1. It'll be interesting to see how he fares vs. Roddick. He seems overlooked... but if his mind state is right he shouldn't have problems dispatching top players.

Henin was an easy bet, serena will take it down tomorrow easily, as will djokovic. What do you think of Murray vs Nadal Happyguy?

I will be watching it and bet during the match most likely if there is a good opportunity , prematch odds are just how they are supposed to be in this one .

very nice arb opportunity on the nadal murray match

bookmaker : murray +105
pinny : nadal +104 5dimes : nadal +101

Pinnaclesports 2 sets bookie , 5dimes 1 set bookie , bookmaker full match .

If somebody retires you are ****ed .

thanks for the heads up, but wouldn't both bets be no action then?

Action according to the rules I've stated .

1 set complete 5dimes will grade
2 sets at pinnaclesports
and has to be full match at bookmaker

If somebody retires in the 2nd only 5dimes would settle and rest void .

i'm dumb

i am only betting the non pinny sides, but this is good to know. BOL