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06-27-2010 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by str8hust1a
not luck u moron lets see u try to execute a perfect armbar on the best fighter on the planet. dumb @$$
Hahah, I love the sherdogians who somehow make their way to this forum.

It has nothing to do with how it was executed, but how Fedor failed to see it and defend it.

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Originally Posted by str8hust1a
noone gives a **** what u think about life you clown. you and your stupid statements
In b4 ban hammer. Go back to betting playmoney on your fantasy mma leagues pls.
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06-27-2010 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by OrganicGreen
saw the stats right before the fight on thought to myself that brazilian dude has a good chance since hes taller, and bigger, and has better reach

and i was right

fedor walked right into that.. nasty... arm bar and triangle.. sick.. makes me want to join 10th planet asap in burbank
Fedor is invincible. Nobody can beat him.

I can't wait for him to join the UFC and destroy all of their heavyweights.

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06-27-2010 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by wufwugy
Isn't it a shame that I rarely post because everybody has to have a stupid opinion on a sport they don't understand?
your an idiot
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06-27-2010 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by OrganicGreen
saw the stats right before the fight on thought to myself that brazilian dude has a good chance since hes taller, and bigger, and has better reach

and i was right
ugh is that a joke?

every heavyweight is taller and bigger than fedor
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06-27-2010 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by LasFuentes
Hahah, I love the sherdogians who somehow make their way to this forum.

It has nothing to do with how it was executed, but how Fedor failed to see it and defend it.



In b4 ban hammer. Go back to betting playmoney on your fantasy mma leagues pls.
haha i never been to sherdog in my life . u obviously know NOTHING bout MMA so just shut up
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06-27-2010 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by wufwugy
Werdum at +500 is one of the best lines ever. The real line on him is somewhere around -125.

Fedor is the dog in this one. I can't believe how a guy who hasn't fought anybody on the level of a current top ten HW in his entire career is so ridiculously overrated. I guess it makes sense since the aura around him and misinterpretation of his fights is just insane.
If you just said you thought Werdum was good value.. you would've had something. But that Fedor take is one of the dumbest I've ever read. Even on the Sherdog forums that would be considered dumb.

You don't think Nogueira and Cro Cop in their prime would be a current top 10? I'd LOVE to see your top 10 list.
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06-27-2010 , 12:11 AM
http://twitter.com/DanaWhite

lol.



Can strikeforce survive shields signing with the ufc after dominating hendo and fedor losing to werdum?
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06-27-2010 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by str8hust1a
haha i never been to sherdog in my life . u obviously know NOTHING bout MMA so just shut up
I can just tell by your sn and comments that you are an encyclopedia of knowledge.

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http://twitter.com/DanaWhite

lol.



Can strikeforce survive shields signing with the ufc after dominating hendo and fedor losing to werdum?
Why not, they will definitely lose marketability and $ but Fedor will still be a big draw when they match him with either Overeem-Werdum winner or Silva.
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06-27-2010 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by LasFuentes
I can just tell by your sn and comments that you are an encyclopedia of knowledge.
and i can tell from your sn your a dumb frenchie who knows nothing.
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06-27-2010 , 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
ugh is that a joke?

every heavyweight is taller and bigger than fedor

Unfortunately it wasn't a joke, that's just how damn stupid OrganicGreen is.
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06-27-2010 , 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
Can strikeforce survive shields signing with the ufc after dominating hendo and fedor losing to werdum?
shields signing with the ufc is good for strikeforce imo, i'm pretty sure cbs viewer numbers dropped pretty hard during shields/miller and shields/henderson. as good as shields is, he just not a guy that people enjoy watching fight and paying superstar money to someone like that is not what a growing promotion needs.
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06-27-2010 , 12:17 AM
Lol you are too much
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06-27-2010 , 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by LasFuentes
Lol you are too much
and you know nothing about mma.
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06-27-2010 , 12:20 AM
Don't make me turn this car around
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06-27-2010 , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by str8hust1a
oh your his butt buddy to defend him? he cant speak for himself? get your finger out of his ass
i dont know who he is.

you're just an obvious ******.

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Originally Posted by 21times20
he just not a guy that people enjoy watching fight and paying superstar money to someone like that is not what a growing promotion needs.
I get the exciting fights part, but they'll lose any value they were trying to get out of claiming they have the bests in the world
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06-27-2010 , 12:24 AM
It wouldn't be a shocker if strikeforce goes the way of giving Silva to Overeem and a Werdum-Fedor rematch straight away.

Fedor would obviously get his #1 ranking back if he won that, regardless of the July 3rd bout.
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06-27-2010 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by LasFuentes
Lol wat, so he luckboxes an armbar after he's been dropped and you think you had any idea what you were talking about?
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You're an idiot... Werdum had about a 2% shot of winning if Fedor had his normal amount of patience and doesn't chase him into guard.
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your an idiot
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If you just said you thought Werdum was good value.. you would've had something. But that Fedor take is one of the dumbest I've ever read. Even on the Sherdog forums that would be considered dumb.

You don't think Nogueira and Cro Cop in their prime would be a current top 10? I'd LOVE to see your top 10 list.
You guys make the most basic mistakes, as almost always. I would love to point them out, but I won't because it's always just a flamefest from people who think just because they have an opinion it's a reasonable opinion. I don't post much in this forum, but if you look over my history you'll see that the vast majority of the time I type up an analysis, it's correct.

Congratulations on not understanding how to analyze MMA, and clearly knowing very little about handicapping in general. I shall go back to lurking and no longer gift this forum with my substantially more correct than average predictions

BTW, I started lurking this forum because I thought I'd find better MMA discussion here than places like Sherdog. I realized quite a while ago that was not the case. MMA enthusiasts are so ****ing analytically awful that all you have to do is find the most popular opinions and go with the opposite

Have a good time being wrong, and not getting corrected by people too tired to put up with bull****
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06-27-2010 , 12:33 AM
So...

Who lost half their roll tonight?
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06-27-2010 , 12:33 AM
... if you are a good handicapper people will realize that and you don't have to self proclaim yourself as such.

"Werdum at +500 is one of the best lines ever. The real line on him is somewhere around -125.

Fedor is the dog in this one. I can't believe how a guy who hasn't fought anybody on the level of a current top ten HW in his entire career is so ridiculously overrated. I guess it makes sense since the aura around him and misinterpretation of his fights is just insane."

In the above statement that you quoted as a brag I guess, you offer nothing of value, except discredit Fedor's opponents and say you think he is overrated.
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06-27-2010 , 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by wufwugy
You guys make the most basic mistakes, as almost always. I would love to point them out, but I won't because it's always just a flamefest from people who think just because they have an opinion it's a reasonable opinion.
elaborate on this. you know youre going to keep posting here.

back up your rhetoric with some substance instead of resorting to your meaningless analysis. youre original post on how werdum is the best line offered no real value.
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06-27-2010 , 12:44 AM
Eh, it's simply result oriented syndrome people have whenever they make a winning "prediction."

It's funny cause when people say stuff like that they almost never back it up with money and just let their mouths run. If you really think a fighter is supposed to be -125 in a fight and the current lines are +400-600, you would easily risk at least ~25% of your br and laugh all the way to the bank.

Also, wuf you will have another chance to make hudge maneyz when Fedor fights Werdum in either his next fight or after that (most likely) and you will have a line that probably opens at -300ish Fedor.
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06-27-2010 , 12:59 AM
Why does the concept of betting for value get lost in translation every time a big upset happens? If you sized your bet well, there should be zero complaining.

How could someone get scared that Fedor would lose based on a fighter being a little taller and having a longer reach? Were you relieved when Werdum ducked his head and swung for the fences, showing a large difference in both fighter's striking abilities?

Did someone really think Werdum should have been properly priced at -125?

I have come to the conclusion that the worst time to look at these mma forums is the seconds after the event takes place. Too much whining, gloating, and bickering.

EDIT: also in before str8hust1a ban

Last edited by GuidaClayAllDay; 06-27-2010 at 01:14 AM.
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06-27-2010 , 01:08 AM
Guida, did you not shed a tear when you saw such a travesty occur?
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06-27-2010 , 01:11 AM
found this great image for aftermath of future fight bickering.
Spoiler:
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06-27-2010 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by LasFuentes
Guida, did you not shed a tear when you saw such a travesty occur?
lol, I feel that I have done a successful job making bets from my studies and not from a fan's perspective.

Wasn't upset by the 2u loss I suffered,

But you're right I was saddened by the moment, especially the look on Fedor's face during the ear-bleeding post-fight interview translations.

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