Thanks for pointing that post out. Justin omitted many details he was privy to in his initial report. In follow up comments he then made additional assertions I don't believe the facts support. He then didn't correct anything in the discussions while he was participating, and eventually stopped posting in the thread.
I sent him an email of the way I was reading the situation and asked if true if he would please man up. The way I read (and this is perhaps my interpretation) the reasons for his ruling (which was basically default judgement) after our email exchanges, to his statement on November 7 in that thread:
"In this case, it was clear that the player was a beard for Cory, Cory was banned, and no book would want this action. If you accept those 3 facts, the decision was fair."
It sure sounds like he's changing his position to conform just the same (I skimmed there though will go back and maybe read the context, but...). There are more details regarding this dispute that have not made threads. Some Justin is aware of, a bit on the background of the player I gave him some leads, and another portion I'm near certain he's not aware. However there is no incentive for the player to give much - she's been completely jobbed by SBR. Innocent or guilty, Justin's initial ruling making sense or not, it still does not change the player was jobbed by SBR and I told Heritage direct in debate why I think they are scummy here.That's available elsewhere and doesn't need to be rehashed.
I'm not someone that defends scammers often. I don't side player in every dispute, in fact most disputes involve novice players that don't understand prop rules, or players that are scammer, so more often side book. If you follow the long thread at SBR I started off on Justin's side but said had only heard one side of the story, reached the middle hearing both and it was time passing and getting really into this dispute that the players side (based on how Heritage and SBR were playing) was the one that needed defending. I'm not arguing innocence or guilt, but rather that they've been jobbed and have little recourse. Heritage should take some of the hit for being unwilling to discuss fair resolution and playing it in PR mode the way they did. If you happen to find the name of the charity and if they'll be posting proof of the donation please do let me know.
Relevance?
SBR was this super trusted portal that this forum's FAQ linked to saying just join every high rated book for years. Tons of posters on many forums not just this one say I'm playing at a B+ book and...; so many people in the industry give high stock to those ratings as if they mean much. People link to the SBR complaints pages about a book.
I did this here on 2+2 in 2007 can see others quoting SBR. But these days it appears the reporting is a lot more advertising based.
Heritage might be great but look how they handle disputes. This isn't a single example there are a couple more. Most all their players are from private book or older times, the transfers, and now new ones just come from SBR. If SBR isn't going treat players fair in a disputes against sponsors isn't it possible you'd be better off in some spots using a book that pays but they still bash? Here they're more likely to side with you in the case the rare disputes comes up, no?
Now this all in theory though because options for US players kind of really do suck now. Just saying. This isn't picking on some site just to pick on them - it is to point out to those still thinking SBRs ratings are the nuts to wake up a bit. BetOnline is stacking bonuses after players bust. Is coming no where close to meeting withdrawal times. Players had to fight or wait over hacked accounts or locked accounts accused of collusion. Heritage had a few complaints that no only didn't get reported some threads got deleted, and there's the Cory1111 issue too. SBR didn't help tremp in a dispute and are likely not to report it just because they think he's an ******* - true or not doesn't change the books actions etc. That's why imo it is worth discussing and pointing this stuff out.
Of course they do still have value. That's mentioned in the FAQ. They're good resource for players. But that doesn't change the ratings and newswires are probably best not taking at face value, and there's a lot of selling and opinion held by many that they should. Providing the information make it easier for someone to realize that.