Some posts have been moved to the low-content thread. Some might have been on-topic, not sure I just skimmed and it was seeming to spin into long off topic discussions.

Playahata's recollections of SBR have no basis in reality. Those broke ****s don't have two nickels to rub together. Let's not even talk about "dimes".

You seem to have an axe to grind with 2p2, which is fine. There are plenty of critiques you could make, especially about the sports betting forum. But trying to talk up SBR is just silly.

You are seriously saying this about the entire population over there? Sure they are broker at SBR on average, but that is also where the extreme, nonprofessional outliers dwell as well. There is more than one guy over there making seven+++ figures annually (Think Texas oil, restaurant franchisers etc). I sense you and possibly Holiday may be fishing me to see who they are?

SBR is a much better site than 2+2 for sports bettors, not sure how you can even put 2+2 in their league, lol.

Any big shots here want to book lots of NASCAR action, stupid question. I actually thought I was posting at sbr, guys here are too sharp to want to be anywhere near the opposite side of my action.

Not even sure how this is even a debatable topic. SBR is a way better site than 2+2 for sports bettors.

If you can seriously beat sports, why in the hell are you relying on places like SBR sportsbook reviews to tell you where to bet? I don't get why people complain that SBR has financial incentives to back certain books and down others, who the hell cares. I sense a lot of the "pro's" here do a lot of arbing and bonus chasing....am I right?

If anyone has met the good solid SBR contacts, please do not share their SN's itt, through pm's, or anywhere at 2+2 as these are valuable contacts(sharing them with clowns reduces the value of the contact) and having scam artist here going after them only f'ups the action for others.

How much money can you possibly make arbing though? Seriously.

Also say goodbye to the United States.

Yeah, I am dying to know who owns a restaurant. You can't blame me for trying.

Don't worry. There have been no valuable posters at sbr in well over 2 years, and the ones that were valuable posted here anyways or are currently here in limited activity.

To be fair though, this place is also a total shell of what it was around 3 years ago

It is a shell of what it used to be because times are tough and that weeds out the mediocrities.

A lot of people with poor social skills probably couldn't find the worthwhile posters if they were responding directly to them. I could care less about good posters anyway, I would rather meet good people and guys who like to gamble, not really looking for much gambling advice from posters.

Anyone doing any serious betting does not want people in on their action anyway unless they are getting incentives.

Think about it, do I want to max bet Kurt Busch at -115, or get it at -120 because someone else wanted in on my swag? No free lunches when times are tight, win or a find a job.

...or more outs.

I have wondered the same thing, but I assume it is akin to poker stake chasers who supplement their incomes off of backers. A shifty, amoral way to make a living, but I shall not judge, a lot of us struggle and live and learn as we age.

who would the "backer" be in the arbers situation?

You have been ghosting/trolling this board attempting to get action to run whatever scam you're attempting. Why do you keep bashing people with stakes to deflect your own attempts at fraud?

Lol, what exactly are my attempts at fraud? I have never beat anyone out of a nickel and never will. I don't need anyone's money or stakes here and will never ask for them.

I am currently being staked for Nascar, but it is because I win steadily. In fact I did not even have to seek backers out.

You will never see me anywhere on this site asking for money or trust, I am simply too good at what I do to need money or backing from strangers. I am not trying to be a dick, but you should not call people frauds without foundation.

I was actually trying to find runners to trust with my backers money. How in the world could I scam anyone doing this, maybe my backers but they have known me 30+years and know my character.

I'm not quite sure I understand that.

What part is hard to understand? I have access to lots of money and I need to find ways to make Nacar bets. I could care less if I get accounts eventually closed or whatever, but I beat this sport so consistently I would be a damn fool to not want to try to hook my money resources to as many outs as possible. I am not trying to make a million off this, just a good steady return.

Not sure why this is a scam? I am not asking for money or trust. In fact I have to trust the people who run while being responsible for backers money. People have a lot of nerve calling me a scammer as I will never ask for money or trust from anyone here and never have under any name.

Also since I am a scammer and you guys are masterminds. I will put my best major market sport NCAAF, big limits there hint hint, against anyone here. We can use escrows and do whatever necessary measures to abide by laws and ethics. I prefer the first 8-9 weeks of the season combined record but we can negociate terms and escrows through pm's. I will be in Vegas Friday night, thanks.

I must apologize as I was indeed trying to use 2+2 for scamming. A quick look at some of my post makes it obvious. I fell in love with Bodog Becky yesterday, and I have been using this site as a means to advertise and steal her lust from Da Hoff.

Htubman, are you connected to that device I shredded in another forum? You post count is very similar? I think you may not have like how I undermined your efforts to get expensive free advice. I shredded the logic behind your scamming $0 overhead expense business model as well, if this is you or your friends? I sense your are actually closely affiliated with 2+2.

You realize your other ghost account continually rails against stakes and bottom feeders such as yourself?

You are clearly attempting to scam people. It is painfully obvious to see. I hope no one is stupid enough to engage in business with you.

LOL ok. I am not asking anyone here to do business with me. I don't need anyone here for business and I am going to self ban now.

How the hell can you call someone with 7+ figures lifetime winnings at poker and sports a bottom feeder? I did this while under the influence 80% of the time. I am sober now and ready to win. Sorry if trying to find people to trust with my friends money and place bets for me constitutes scamming.

I am done with this site as I have tried here and failed for whatever reason(s). I sense a lot of pain and misery itt, it might be time for some of you to reconsider your involvement in gambling. Even if you are winning, there is still a lot of misery itt's. Sorry to have pissed anyone off, my last efforts trying to meet people here. And for the record:

"All I have in this world is my balls in my word and I don't break'em for no one"

Another Scarface quote for ya:

"This town is like a great big pussy just waitin to get ****ed." - Tony Montana

I am done with your insults, pettiness and ego's good luck. I would rather be poor and homeless than be a thief, but I doubt many people here can relate to suffering and integrity. Adios!

You continually lie about your intentions and post under three different names continually nutriding yourself.

7 figures is nothing. Get a grip.

Noticed you are banned now? I never ask anyone here to engage in business with me and never will unless we meet in person are able to establish and build a relationship of trust and mutual respect.

I have been in this game and won steadily for many years. I am far from a bottom feeder, and print money as needed.

I do not like stake chasers and never consider myself to be one. If life long friends with money seek me out to bet my action, how does that constitute stake chasing? I could get a stake offer tonight and turn it down as I don't need strangers money and never will. Guys like me can ball wherever the world puts us. Your account wasn't associated with Assani was it?

SBR has a lot more friendly posters, and more traffic in general for their sports betting forums. There are tons of guys over there betting multiple dime units regularly and way more professional sports bettors posting over there than here.

They also have lots of useful gambling tools and resources that you will not find here. Not even close which site more high rollers and big time sports bettors affiliate. The best guys here definitely post there, and the same cannot be said for the best posters there....most of them never post here.

O/U on # of professionals currently posting at sbr is .5

Are you serious? Hell even the best here post there, TomG, Rigs, and a few others. There are guys moving big units over there. It isn't close, lots of multiple dime players and some of the industry's best post there. 2+2 remains the best site for poker forums, although pocket fives specializes in that and has been steadily acquiring more of the market the past few years.

Bump.

So now I know why I was perma banned. Classed as a spammer, in reality I posted a complaint (which I've also officially lodged with the Isle of Man Gaming Commission).

I offered to provide all the evidence which supported everything I said in the thread (thread was pre modded and approved and THEN I was banned, ffs).

Soon after I attempt to respond on the thread and I now get a message saying I've been banned for spamming and the thread is still there.

About 8 months back I had a valid complaint against Titanbet, I went though SBR and they did sfa to help me, they responded to the initial complaint and then nothing. I only got it resolved by continually chipping away at Titan until I finally got to speak to the manager, who resolved the issue and got the bet settled correctly, 2 months later.

GTFO.

/end rant.