and you dont see that as a desperate attempt at traffic? lol

May we know who you are on sbr? I post there quite a bit.

we're all impressed you're telling us you managed to literally shred every sport without providing any proof, but even if it were true youd be the exception to the rule. SBR is aids and a scam and even worse than a regular scam because they pretend to be a watchdog. They take advantage of people's trust and to me its sort of like firefighters lighting houses on fire.

Not that its news in any way, just figured may as well mention, I was also banned recently for questioning 'rulings' of theirs publicly. Had for quite some time had posts mysteriously disappear, or just parts removed that they didnt see fit. Then that slow server treatment, and then posting rights removed. This was all without receiving any communications from their side about any wrongdoing on my behalf.

Upon contacting them I was first literally told I can be I can be anti SBR 24/7 all I want but may not derail topics to promote my own agenda. Replied back I'd try to do that but also asked if I was allowed to disagree with SBR if I did so with legitimate reasoning and not just an attempt to bash. At this point I was simply told to take my nonsense elsewhere and see if any other forum would tolerate me as long as SBR has, havent been banned at a single forum for well over a decade using them so found that part a bit amusing.

Should point out I've never had an issue with any of SBR's sponsors, including BOL. SBR themselves cant seem to even keep up their own appearance as being legit anymore.

Sounds like Lou. Obviously is only forums where commercial interests come first that you'd need to be "tolerated". Anyways thanks for sharing that.

the fact multiple people post under the handle JJGold is far more obvious than ever.

so I filed a complaint through SBR 2 weeks ago over a bitcoin withdraw..heard nothing.. sent some additional info in case that's what they were waiting for.. heard nothing. asked on their forums how long on average it takes to get to a complaint.. heard nothing.. emphasized that if it usually takes longer than that cool, just give me a time frame... heard nothing. is this usual for SBR? I appreciate what they do for players and i realize the service is free.. but some sort of contact would be much appreciated. even "You don't have a case" is better than the blank stares..

The thing is the book in question is more than willing to work with SBR (Which is why I'm withholding their name, I'm not here to blast them),

There are no SBR sponsorships with bitcoin books so that can't be it (unless it's in the works, but like I said.. the book is willing to work with SBR)

Thanks

This is why you aren't getting any help from them. SBR is only interested in protecting the image of the books that are lining their pockets.

they also really enjoy having a couple places to whale on though where they're not on the payroll. how many times have they posted sbr news that sportsbook.ag payments are taking 4 weeks plus, or watch out for zach from bet33, or how many updates were that, yes, in fact, betowi is still a stiff book not paying players?

the trick is to only do shady **** at a place that sbr has it out for

sbr doesn't reply to any of my complaints anymore, for any book, btw

nothing to do with money but i had a tennis blog once on sbrforum as i have here posting tennis picks for free and one day WITH NO REASON AT ALL they blocked it and i couldnt connect anymore!!!....contacted them...never had and answer back!!!

NO WAY!

I don't get how a possible ruling against them is protecting them though.... that's what I'm seeking.

I don't think this makes sense here though. If the bit coin books aren't paying SBR then why would SBR care about protecting them?

Were you trying to sell your picks through pm's? Are you doing that at 2+2? That might have been your problem if that was the case, not sure though as I despise touts in general.

I love SBR, gave them tons of +EV picks, never got banned by some emotional 19 yo crying to a mod. In fact, 2-3 of the big guys there pm'ed me and encouraged my participation, very welcoming and it definitely was not because I was scamming or misleading gamblers.

Thankfully I don't rely on SBR to tell me where to get action. Don't you think it is much more +EV to multi account at the big sites, instead of chasing after sites with even slightly questionable reps?

i didnt do that at all.....if it had been the case i wd have understood they block me....NO REASON....before that i really like this site!!! i had absolutly nothing against them.....a friend told me it was maybe because on my picks i was doing simulation avec for example 1 unit $100....so when a pick wd win(or lose!!) i wd write it the way i do it here.....for example....federer(2.10)-nadal(1.49...federer (2 units)...result: WIN:$220 or LOSE:$200.....i just wrote that way for the fun of it and to make it clear...so maybe it was that......it was just strange...but once again before that i really this site!!

There's not much upside in them bashing a book unless they know they won't be able to do business with them down the road. SBR is probably trying to negotiate a deal for themselves first and then if they can't Lou will write a one paragraph blurb 4 weeks later.

SBR is the sewage of the internet.

It is a bar like atmosphere, very unrefined gamblers and people compared to 2+2. However, that bar like atmosphere represents reality better than the younger, computer centric, minimal networking type gamblers on this site.

A lot of those dumb ass posters on SBR own big businesses and are not afraid to through dimes around like pennies. The guys here are better gamblers on average, but their social skills and life experiences are generally not impressive compared to some of the guys at SBR who bet big, don't mind losing and make much more from businesses. This characterization could be wrong, as it is drawn only from my limited personal experiences.

If a person gambles large and post here, he is probably very proficient at what he is doing. I think SBR attracts those more recreationally inclined gamblers whose br's are frequently way larger than the players here. At the other end of the spectrum it attracts lots of young and dumb posters, but I encounter those here daily as well.

Definitely more shifty stake chasers and scam artist at 2+2. I believe it is a function of young gamblers trying to take gambling too seriously, trying to be a pro here, and ending up failing.(stake chasing, scamming etc.)

The guys at SBR tend to lose and bitch and move on. They have thicker skin. They are not like the clowns at 2+2 who read a post that pisses them off, then run to a mod and get a solid mf'er banned over and over.

I always get the feeling the guys at 2+2 love the fact they can talk **** and hide behind a computer, while at SBR, I never felt that way at all. I am encouraged to participate there, instead of being ostracized by mediocrities.

wtf are you talking about

most sbr posters are blue collar guys with no savings and no education

Networking, getting in the trenches and dealing with the average Joe instead of being intellectually arrogant and hiding behind computers all day. A lot of good gambling opportunities open up when you are humble and sociable with people from all walks of life.

I have two of the biggest hillbillies on the planet partying like teenagers at my place right now: uneducated yes, living in double wide trailers yes, major ballers who piss on dimes yes. These uneducated hustlers utilize equally moral but different skill sets to win sometimes. I am glad I know these guys instead of relying on networking here. I would rather take humble country people to the winners circle than arrogant mean spirited computer geeks.

The guys here probably post in the "think tank" at SBR. Usually they are clueless to the actual sports they are trying to beat and laugh off qualitative analysis. They are superior to the guys who could care less about a precise computer model and are more passionate about the actual sport itself.

funny, I have a PM from you directing me to your site where you "post different picks than on 2+2".

haven't gone, though I assume that to mean "this is where I tout".

I was referencing that previously itt, although I never went to the site assuming it was a tout. Hell, I get paid picks for free from several touts who are actually good gamblers(Ferringo/Eastman) and I don't even open the emails usually. On a funny note, I wish I saved all the unopened emails of paid picks I got for free from the now defunct Sharkey Sports, never opened one of them, lol.

Honestly what I responded may not be a concern for you. I realize there are some highly intelligent guys spanking bookies on a much larger scale than I can fathom, so dealing with the average Joe may not be something you want to do, although most of my exciting, enriching life experiences are from dealing with these colorful characters.