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Old 05-31-2012, 07:20 PM   #26
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Ok, Poogs finally emailed me and apologized and sort of gave me a sob story
he said he got scammed for a ton of money or w/e and is very sorry.
He said he WILL pay but is not sure when... Told him I will contact him in 2 weeks and we'll see what happens
Call me a cynic. But now he's got stories. It would appear poogs is a huge fraud that can't even peel off a dime.
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Old 05-31-2012, 07:21 PM   #27
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Ok, Poogs finally emailed me and apologized and sort of gave me a sob story
he said he got scammed for a ton of money or w/e and is very sorry.
He said he WILL pay but is not sure when... Told him I will contact him in 2 weeks and we'll see what happens
GL Chronic... Hope you get your money, and hope Poogs does the right thing.
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Old 05-31-2012, 07:25 PM   #28
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pooogs maybe if you didn't buy so many motorized assets he wouldn't have problems w 1k in debt. and in case you were wondering you come off TERRIBLE in those emails. actling like paying him 300 is a favor is lol prick.

also how do you keep getting scammed considering how sharp you are?
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Old 05-31-2012, 07:29 PM   #29
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Brain,

I hope you do the right thing and stop fleecing sheep.
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Old 05-31-2012, 07:31 PM   #30
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pooogs maybe if you didn't buy so many motorized assets he wouldn't have problems w 1k in debt. and in case you were wondering you come off TERRIBLE in those emails. actling like paying him 300 is a favor is lol prick.

also how do you keep getting scammed considering how sharp you are?
step 1, make a bet without escrow

op, you wanna make a bet for 1k? we can flip a coin, and i'll give u 5% edge
calling it tails btw
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Old 05-31-2012, 07:46 PM   #31
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step 1, make a bet without escrow

op, you wanna make a bet for 1k? we can flip a coin, and i'll give u 5% edge
calling it tails btw
MB brought this up already.
I could not predict 2p2 going down for so long
I could not have imagined poogs would have trouble paying
If you go back and check the posts I made regarding our bet. I was really pressing poogs to escrow etc...
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Old 05-31-2012, 07:58 PM   #32
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re: POOGS tries to welch on a bet then totally disappears (Resolved - Poogs pays full amount)

The most important thing in a negotiation is the willingness to walk away.

You were so antsy on the bet that you didn't prioritize the escrow.
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:06 PM   #33
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What Dodgers said.

Chronic, if you think I was on your side in that post you are very wrong. As I said, it was really dumb to make the bet without escrowing unless you already knew or trusted him. Pressing him to escrow after the bet started was dumb and accomplished nothing, obviously.

You had many chances to even stop the bet in progress and simply say you would feel more comfortable continuing it AFTER he escrowed. But yeah, pressuring him to escrow as much as you did while the bet was advancing quickly was dumb and pointless as I told you at the time.
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:11 PM   #34
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re: POOGS tries to welch on a bet then totally disappears (Resolved - Poogs pays full amount)

cronic mentioned escrow so many times i thought to myself cronic needs to smoke some cronic. cronic knew he was getting +ev bet and wanted to get it done before Poogies could back out.

also i was infering that poogs was the one getting scammed all the time and was sharp. seriously he always cried about getting scammed. now that i think about it thats like the scammers go to line.

Alandyer,

have you been accosted at all lately from your jr rape thread? hows life treating you now. what brings you to sportsbeting forum? are you still ridiculously creepy?
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:12 PM   #35
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sounds like it.
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:15 PM   #36
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What Dodgers said.

Chronic, if you think I was on your side in that post you are very wrong. As I said, it was really dumb to make the bet without escrowing unless you already knew or trusted him. Pressing him to escrow after the bet started was dumb and accomplished nothing, obviously.

You had many chances to even stop the bet in progress and simply say you would feel more comfortable continuing it AFTER he escrowed. But yeah, pressuring him to escrow as much as you did while the bet was advancing quickly was dumb and pointless as I told you at the time.
Well you are clearly contradicting yourself
You were the Guy that said an escrow is not even needed
Matter of fact you told me that Iam being too pushy on the escrow part blabla and that it is a simple forum bet etc...

The forum going down was not something I could have seen coming
There was a lot of drama at the time and my bet was highly +ev I thought and wanted to escrow as soon as possible.
Poogs said he had deposited money on paypal and would take some time to clear. By that time forums went down and we lost all communication
Poogs doing what he did? I mean you would not have trusted poogs?
Poogs was actually the one that suggested we escrow immediately when we began the bet so I assumed he is 100% legit
The Guy is showing 1000$ bet tickets so the possibility of being scammed by him in my mind was very small.

Also, there was no way we were going to pause the bet
Everyone here including me and poogs wanted to get the bet over with
Pausing the bet was not an option...

Also poogs has said he will pay afterall

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Old 05-31-2012, 08:18 PM   #37
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post sob story.
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:22 PM   #38
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pooogs maybe if you didn't buy so many motorized assets he wouldn't have problems w 1k in debt. and in case you were wondering you come off TERRIBLE in those emails. actling like paying him 300 is a favor is lol prick.

also how do you keep getting scammed considering how sharp you are?
LOL
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:23 PM   #39
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Also poogs has said he will pay afterall
i bet he wishes he could take back that $300 comment.
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:23 PM   #40
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Wtf are you talking about? I didn't say you didn't need an escrow.

you were definitely being stupidly pushy on the escrow. And it definitely was a simple forum bet that you could have taken to pm's and didn't need to babble about endlessly on here trying to figure it out.

And your bit about not stopping the bet because you were so excited about it is exactly why you are in your current spot of not knowing if or when you will get paid. So dumb and so unnecessary.

When I can figure out how to do a bet and what the issues are more than you then you know you have probs.
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:36 PM   #41
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Poogs hiding out in Mexican brothel imo
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:39 PM   #42
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I have placed hundreds of bets on 2p2 without a problem . Poogs looked very legit , I checked his history , nothing looked alarming and seemed like he card too much about his ego to pull something like that...
I still tried everything I can to get the escrow going but just didnt go though..
Pausing the bet would have just been ******ed. I was already having trouble communicating with Poogs at the time as he was replying to every pm I sent him every 4-5 days... I thought getting the bet over with was the right thing to do..
I took a chance and completely trusted poogs and it didnt work out the way i planeed it...

Again, I'm glad poogs emailed me and was apologetic and promised to pay.. so there still hope
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:44 PM   #43
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You did not try everything you could to get poogs to escrow. All you did was tell him over and over while the bet continued.

Pausing the bet until money was paid would obviously not have been ******ed but you were too excited to figure that out.

Obviously you didn't completely trust poogs. If you did then you would never have doing an escrow in the first place....much less insisting he needs to send over and over.
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:16 PM   #44
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Ok Microbob, whatever you say
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:34 PM   #45
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We all agree with you in hindsight microbob but these things happen what's important now is getting chronic paid.
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Old 05-31-2012, 11:29 PM   #46
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Good to see the old MB back. Taking every opportunity to pile on and with brilliant hindsight, pointing our every possible thing Chronic did wrong. Way to keep it constructive Bob.

I know your just probably being a regular poster, not a mod. But why don't you do some modding and email/pm poogs asking him what he has to say. Ban him if he doesn't respond in reasonable time period. If he doesn't pay he is a scammer. Seems like that would be a little more productive that bickering and arguing like a 12 year-old with someone who was allegedly scammed.

Gl getting paid op. Lol at the quote from poogs saying he values his name more than 1k.

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Old 06-01-2012, 12:03 AM   #47
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Godevils, nobody has asked me to get involved. I have nothing to do with this bet. And it is not really my place. If either want to pm me and ask for my assistance than I guess I can consider doing so. It seems we have already seen what he has to say. Jumping in to contact him privately just doesn't seem right to me....especially with nobody else even asking me to.

If he is proven to be a scammer then I guess a ban can be considered although I don't think that is a typical course of action in such situations. Generally a lot of them just don't return anyway so it isn't necessary.

You are berating me to do things that I probably should not be doing at all. Get involved? Not really interested....as I said right from the beginning when I told chronic I was not interested in being an escrow for this.

The only reason I made the more recent posts is because of chronic's weird misinterpretation of my one post and then further claim that I told him to not escrow.
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Old 06-01-2012, 02:43 AM   #48
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GS85 killin it in this thread, Iowa a close 2nd

Have the urge to point out yet again that the biggest loser out of this is Wiper. He gets pwned being the judge spending god knows how many hours dealing with this debacle and doubly so with the forums going down. As of now he is on target to receive $0, but if Poogs actually pays he will then stand to receive the handsome reward of $50 for your troubles!!!!!!! I'd take up a collection for Wiper before Chronic imo.

Leave it to Bob to play the "I told you so" card. If I ever had a stepfather, he would be like -800 to be just like Bob. Run bad.

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****. I have no role in this but it is very upsetting to me. I had to put up it reading hundreds of ****ing posts detailing this ******ed bet and now when there should finally be a resolution, it continues.
I feel the exact opposite. This whole thing has been awesome. Poogs rapes someone in this thread and none other than Alan Dyer comes along. That is some sick rape-dar.

BookieBuddy managed to pull off multiple scams? Surely Poogs should never be scammed as he has ranted multiple times about being a know-it-all when it comes to gambling with locals. Something must not be right.
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Old 06-01-2012, 09:26 AM   #49
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Good to see the old MB back. Taking every opportunity to pile on and with brilliant hindsight, pointing our every possible thing Chronic did wrong. Way to keep it constructive Bob.
seriously, this is the absolutely worst stance you can take, mod or no mod.

we are supposed to be gamblers here, a guy welches on a bet with lame ass excuses and MB chimes in with multiple posts of criticism of "you shoulda escrowed". the bet was clear, it was accepted in writing by both sides. what happened to honoring your word?

does MB even gamble? how is this guy allowed to persist
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Old 06-01-2012, 09:37 AM   #50
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Greg, if chronic doesn't misinterpret my previous posts to say things I never said, and then continue on with it, then follow up posts never happen.

For example, I never told chronic to not get an escrow. He said I did. I'm just supposed to say, "okay, I did say that"? The persisting never happens if chronic doesn't keep trying to claim other things I said that I didn't.
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