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Old 11-17-2018, 06:54 PM   #51
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Re: Parlays...bad bets?

Parlay is fun ,you can hedge them later. Is not that hard to parlay 3 teams to win
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Old 11-20-2018, 07:56 PM   #52
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Re: Parlays...bad bets?

Cool post
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Old 01-25-2019, 09:26 PM   #53
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Re: Parlays...bad bets?

Where parlays really come into their own is on outright markets during the season.
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Old 01-28-2019, 07:09 AM   #54
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Re: Parlays...bad bets?

parlay is a good bet when you are professional tipster and need to hide from bookie (even big trusted bookies ban profit players) and parlays much harder to track down
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Old 01-28-2019, 08:49 AM   #55
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lol seriously.

It always amazes me A) how quickly people will give out advice on topics that they very clearly know nothing about, and B) how bettors will look for and find ways to make bets at worse odds than necessary.

Parlays are only good for a few things; if youre a noob and you just want some action, its a fun way to risk a little to win a lot. Like a scratch ticket. Or theyre good for getting around limits, as cover plays, stale lines in parlay cards, and of course with correlation. Thats pretty much it
I’m sorry but you’re wrong .
I only ever bet parlays and have made a living from betting since 2004-5.
I’m banned or heavily restricted by every British bookie except W Hill. Bet 365 only allows me to bet 30p on a parlay. (£10 on a single)
With all due respect to the quality of poster on here the apparent lack of understanding of long term markets and how readily they can be exploited by parlays I find truly staggering .
It now appears that even David Sklansky is unaware of the effectiveness of parlays on long term markets .
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:43 AM   #56
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Re: Parlays...bad bets?

So you make a living betting long term markets?

Parlaying long term markets at that

Might as well flip a coin
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Old 01-28-2019, 12:30 PM   #57
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So you make a living betting long term markets?

Parlaying long term markets at that

Might as well flip a coin
Might as well flip a coin?

I take it you either donít believe I make a living betting on long term markets or that any money Iíve made had been due purely to luck.

I have very very good reason to believe itís not luck . Many long term sports betting markets are ridiculously easy to trade you know.
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:44 PM   #58
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Re: Parlays...bad bets?

Active line shopping along with hedges/arbs I believe long term markets are beatable. It may not be the most effective method though, unless you can bet on book's credit.
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Old 01-29-2019, 06:56 AM   #59
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I’m sorry but you’re wrong .
I only ever bet parlays and have made a living from betting since 2004-5.
I’m banned or heavily restricted by every British bookie except W Hill. Bet 365 only allows me to bet 30p on a parlay. (£10 on a single)
With all due respect to the quality of poster on here the apparent lack of understanding of long term markets and how readily they can be exploited by parlays I find truly staggering .
It now appears that even David Sklansky is unaware of the effectiveness of parlays on long term markets .
So you bet for a living since 2004 and arent limited in WH and fully restriced on 365?

GTFO please
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:29 AM   #60
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So you bet for a living since 2004 and arent limited in WH and fully restriced on 365?

GTFO please
I can only assume it’s the fact that I’m not restricted by William Hill that’s the issue.
The reason I’m not banned or restricted by William Hill I believe is because until this season their website was absolutely useless for someone like me .
First they simply didn’t have very many outright markets,not compared to Bet365, but even the markets they did have were often suspended even when there were no games but the main issue was that the site would prohibit me from including 2 selections that were unrelated so I had to phone up to get the bet on and this would take ages .
Thus I’ve never done a high volume of bets with WHill (and they think I’m just lucky.)
I’m still up with them though .
In fact if you google
Man forgets £250,000 winning bet you can see one of my winning bets . Placed with W Hill.

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Old 01-29-2019, 07:33 AM   #61
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Active line shopping along with hedges/arbs I believe long term markets are beatable. It may not be the most effective method though, unless you can bet on book's credit.
Thanks for that.
However just to be clear I donít need to line shop to beat any major bookie in long term markets if the bookie has a large number of markets.
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Old 01-31-2019, 11:59 AM   #62
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Might as well flip a coin?

I take it you either donít believe I make a living betting on long term markets or that any money Iíve made had been due purely to luck.

I have very very good reason to believe itís not luck . Many long term sports betting markets are ridiculously easy to trade you know.
How many bets are you placing per year and what is your average odds?
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Old 01-31-2019, 06:01 PM   #63
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How many bets are you placing per year and what is your average odds?
Before I answer that Im at pains to point out that I have no doubt whatsoever that the way I play these is far from the optimum way even though it’s my only form of income.
I keep getting logged out if I write a longer post so the short answer is ,
In recent years I find I like to bet at between 2000-1 and 5000-1 odds and I’ve been doing several 1000 bets.
However the vast majority of those bets are for tiny stakes compared to my bank .
But this isn’t that simple as bets that don’t win can nonetheless still be useful.
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Old 01-31-2019, 06:10 PM   #64
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The thing is I’m trying to learn as much as I can about betting this way and that means betting on all manner of markets and on all sports that have a league system even sports I don’t know much about.
I should explain that up to 2009 I was betting exclusively each way parlays because British bookies used to habitually be overly generous with their place terms in long term markets.
By 2009 they had largely stopped that and it was only from 2009-10 that I was betting win only parlays .
I wasn’t sure they’d be profitable but I got the idea they might be when betting each way .
The first four years were a steep learning curve but now ,honestly,it’s really not hard .
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Old 02-04-2019, 09:52 PM   #65
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parlay is a good bet when you are professional tipster and need to hide from bookie (even big trusted bookies ban profit players) and parlays much harder to track down


This forum is dead,all sharps remaining please hide and seek refugee in HTT SBR
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Old 02-04-2019, 09:54 PM   #66
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Before I answer that Im at pains to point out that I have no doubt whatsoever that the way I play these is far from the optimum way even though itís my only form of income.
I keep getting logged out if I write a longer post so the short answer is ,
In recent years I find I like to bet at between 2000-1 and 5000-1 odds and Iíve been doing several 1000 bets.
However the vast majority of those bets are for tiny stakes compared to my bank .
But this isnít that simple as bets that donít win can nonetheless still be useful.

GTFO

Here https://www.reddit.com/r/SoccerBetting/

you are not welcomed here
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Old 02-05-2019, 07:19 AM   #67
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This forum is dead,all sharps remaining please hide and seek refugee in HTT SBR
Every forum is dead according to some loser
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Old 02-10-2019, 06:54 PM   #68
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The thing is Iím trying to learn as much as I can about betting this way and that means betting on all manner of markets and on all sports that have a league system even sports I donít know much about.
I should explain that up to 2009 I was betting exclusively each way parlays because British bookies used to habitually be overly generous with their place terms in long term markets.
By 2009 they had largely stopped that and it was only from 2009-10 that I was betting win only parlays .
I wasnít sure theyíd be profitable but I got the idea they might be when betting each way .
The first four years were a steep learning curve but now ,honestly,itís really not hard .
Every time this topic comes up, some rando comes in and is like " AcTuAlLy I made a million dollars with parlays so u guys just dont know wtf your talking about. This forum is DEAD"

If you bet somewhere that offers "overly generous place terms" (assuming that means incorrect odds in favor of the player) for parlays, then yea, of course, they become good bets. If a blackjack dealer always tells me what their down card is, playing BJ with him would be profitable. You would still be correct in that saying playing BJ longterm is -ev though.

But I sure am interested in these 1k 50000-1 "long term market parlays" though. Care to explain further?
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