Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > >

Notices

Sports Betting Discussions related to wagering on sporting events.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-25-2012, 01:54 PM   #51
sweep single
banned
 
sweep single's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 2,561
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

What books have the sharpest lines now? Is it still Pinn or is that in the past?
sweep single is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2012, 02:44 PM   #52
PropPlayer
Sports Betting Mod
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Southeast Asia
Posts: 3,615
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

SBO has higher limits for soccer. Banking options depend where you live and are not advertised for all markets.

sweep single, for American sports I'm not sure there is a replacement to look at. Pinnacle is still probably best we have to go on for those.
PropPlayer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2012, 04:53 PM   #53
mikidi-kikidi
centurion
 
mikidi-kikidi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 196
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Opinions on MarathonBet? They seem to have some juicy lines.
mikidi-kikidi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 10:54 AM   #54
PropPlayer
Sports Betting Mod
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Southeast Asia
Posts: 3,615
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

They're similar to how 5Dimes is just a different market. They pay, and can still keep okay limits for major leagues, but the handicap markets they show up best for limits get cut quick on those.
PropPlayer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 03:20 PM   #55
mikidi-kikidi
centurion
 
mikidi-kikidi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 196
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

I'm new to this, what do you mean with limits getting cut quick? They will put a limit at how much I can bet when I win consistently? At about what size of bets?
mikidi-kikidi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 04:09 PM   #56
brandoncla
Pooh-Bah
 
brandoncla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Where the Rivahhhhs flow like wine
Posts: 5,098
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Poogs View Post
With all the shennigans with offshore bs, I think you guys are crazy not betting with locals. Just go to a poker game and ask around if anyone takes action. 100% someone will at least know someone that does, and thats how you get your foot in the door. Untaxed, untraceable cash every week, no processing fees and whatever else. And beleive it or not, your money will probably be safer doing it this way than offshore
I would not feel any safer doing this.
brandoncla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 04:29 PM   #57
PropPlayer
Sports Betting Mod
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Southeast Asia
Posts: 3,615
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

I misunderstood your question. A+ type book and won't have a problem with them.

I thought when you said juicy lines that you were referring to something else. To explain anyway, can read section from FAQ sticky thread on personal limits. They have several smaller markets where limits start between 300 and 900 EUR that a lot of value can be found. That doesn't last long at all. If you're betting those +EV only - win or lose you will get personal limits on those markets.
PropPlayer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2012, 07:44 PM   #58
housenuts
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
housenuts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Come With Me If You Want To Lift
Posts: 31,667
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Quote:
Originally Posted by housenuts View Post
How many books do you guys keep balances on? I only keep money on 2 at the moment but feel I should branch out to do more line shopping.
canadian. have money on 5d/365. have a pinny account but need to fund it, but a little hesitant right now. opening up bovada.
housenuts is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2012, 08:14 PM   #59
wiper
still catching up
 
wiper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: USA#1
Posts: 41,685
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

well you're 1/2 right.
wiper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2012, 09:20 PM   #60
PropPlayer
Sports Betting Mod
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Southeast Asia
Posts: 3,615
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

housenuts from Canada I'd suggest just having an e-wallet set up using oddsportal.com to shop odds and depositing at whichever has the best. You can move the money right back out after one bet if you want to or need it. No need to keep them all funded beyond level you feel safe nor what you need. Pinnacle also has one free payout per month so keep 1 or 2 bets there if hesitant. Other sites like Betfair, Bet365, Ladbrokes, etc. can cash in and out everyday if you want to.
PropPlayer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2012, 09:28 PM   #61
HolidayInTheSun
adept
 
HolidayInTheSun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 1,020
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital03 View Post
USA player. Want to deposit 40k offshore.

Will be betting between 400-1200 per game.

Which book would you recommend? Should I just wire 40k to bookmaker?

I'm aware bookmaker has the worst juice and cashout fees are huge. Heritage seems good but they dont seem to take big deposits and neither does 5 dimes? I hear people say deposit money in different books to shop for best lines but how does anyone get 10k to heritage and 5dimes if they dont accept wire deposits? I know they accept WU but deposit is max 1500 or 3000 and that is useless for me.

The other thing is i hear 5dimes limits you if you win so if you do get limited... do you have the opportunity to transfer that whole amount to bookmaker? With how frustrating usa offshore climate is... i dont want to have to withdraw my entire balance at one book by check/WU and then need to deposit that amt into another book. Basically want 1 or 2 book max and it seems like bookmaker is the book to play with since they are the only PRO FRIENDLY BOOK? Also seems that heritage limits players as well from what i read and 5dimes seem to limit after you win a certain amt from what i hear people talk about.
lots better options than bookmaker if you only want to bet 1.2k per game max
HolidayInTheSun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2012, 09:52 PM   #62
PropPlayer
Sports Betting Mod
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Southeast Asia
Posts: 3,615
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

$40K from the US. Personally I'd take a vacation get a drivers license and bank account somewhere else and use all sites. But speaking just on the US from the US:

$15K in Moneyorder deposits to 5Dimes

With these split up using Western Union and MoneyGram to avoid getting flagged:

$15K of $5K each to Bookmaker, Heritage and Legends
$3K to Bovada

Shop bonuses for these before depositing:

$3K to (removed)
$2K to GTBets
$1K to Justbet
$1K to YouWager

Last edited by PropPlayer; 12-18-2012 at 02:50 AM.
PropPlayer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2012, 10:00 PM   #63
housenuts
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
housenuts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Come With Me If You Want To Lift
Posts: 31,667
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Quote:
Originally Posted by PropPlayer View Post
housenuts from Canada I'd suggest just having an e-wallet set up using oddsportal.com to shop odds and depositing at whichever has the best. You can move the money right back out after one bet if you want to or need it. No need to keep them all funded beyond level you feel safe nor what you need. Pinnacle also has one free payout per month so keep 1 or 2 bets there if hesitant. Other sites like Betfair, Bet365, Ladbrokes, etc. can cash in and out everyday if you want to.
ya i have moneybookers set up. but it still takes time to withdraw from one site to put funds on another..and there's sometimes withdraw costs so can't be doing it all the time. but ya, my plan was to take some out of 365 to moneybookers, and then fund a new one from it.
housenuts is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2012, 10:14 PM   #64
PropPlayer
Sports Betting Mod
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Southeast Asia
Posts: 3,615
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Only the discount margin bookies charge withdrawal fees. 90% don't. Pinnacle pays in 20 minutes or less to e-wallets (1 free per month). Most the reputable betting sites are by 10AM UK time the following morning. Ex: Will Hill, Ladbrokes, Betfair etc. etc. It's the US sites that are slow. Intertops can take a few days, BetOnline, Bookmaker can take a week or more. But most books are not like that, US market is just brutal.
PropPlayer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2012, 11:41 PM   #65
PropPlayer
Sports Betting Mod
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Southeast Asia
Posts: 3,615
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

You've been reading too much SBR imo
PropPlayer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2012, 11:46 PM   #66
GoDeViLs
veteran
 
GoDeViLs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 3,318
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Nearly all books will collar you if you are a winner betting large amounts (except pinny and maybe bookmaker if you are only betting big markets). It is kind of inherited that being limited at a book is cost of business. Unless it us a super shady book, you will be paid. Might as well get what you can if you are a winner imo.

All the books that pp mentioned for bonuses are paying books. You might be limited at some point betting 1k a bet and winning but why not take it?
GoDeViLs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2012, 11:49 PM   #67
DodgerIrish
Fraudulent Zodiac
 
DodgerIrish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: between overconfident and insecure
Posts: 19,021
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

You can shear a sheep many times but you can only skin it once
DodgerIrish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2012, 11:57 PM   #68
PropPlayer
Sports Betting Mod
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Southeast Asia
Posts: 3,615
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Imaginary money works better online. In Vegas no one will believe it.
PropPlayer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2012, 11:57 PM   #69
GoDeViLs
veteran
 
GoDeViLs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 3,318
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Honest question with no ill intent, why are you looking to deposit 40k online and are asking questions a novice bettor would ask?
GoDeViLs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2012, 01:05 AM   #70
borg23
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 7,121
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

why put all 40k on one site?
all thats doing is

1)increasing your risk
2)getting worse lines
3)it will get you banned faster

Generally speaking the lines in Vegas are worse. The difference is if you're betting 400-1200 a game there nobody will know who the **** you are anyway so you can keep winning. Although you might be able to beat online spreads but not Vegas spreads since the juice is so much higher and its a pita to line shop.Play a few books online, get better odds, maybe even clear some bonuses by betting what you would be betting anyway.

Do you want to bet a lot more than 400-1200 a game and have a much larger role than 40k to work with? If not I don't see how " I hear people say the big players all bet offshore and rarely in vegas because you can't get much down. " really would apply to you.
borg23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2012, 07:10 AM   #71
InfectorGadget
journeyman
 
InfectorGadget's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: [insert unfunny -EV poker action]
Posts: 345
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Which sportsbooks offer betting on e-sports (starcraft 2, dota 2, etc.)? I know Pinnacle does, but are there any other?
InfectorGadget is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2012, 04:37 PM   #72
Damani311
old hand
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Asheville, NC
Posts: 1,475
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

just gotta come here and say 5dimes is awful, just signed up this week and entire site has been down twice, once right before the start of the sunday nfl games and then its completely down again when I'm trying to place a bet on Alabama/Georgia. Been trying to load the page with the NCAA betting lines and its unable to load page, for over 15 minutes now, on two different internet connections....pathetic.
Damani311 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2012, 06:52 PM   #73
PropPlayer
Sports Betting Mod
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Southeast Asia
Posts: 3,615
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

try propbet.com is a mirror site for 5dimes
PropPlayer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2012, 07:19 PM   #74
beermankirk
old hand
 
beermankirk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Vancouver, CANADA
Posts: 1,393
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

sportbet.com also works great for 5dimes, I agree it's terrible they don't let players know, and the down time that they have.
beermankirk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2012, 11:10 PM   #75
Poogs
Pooh-Bah
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 4,413
re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

I think wageringcorner.com is a mirror site for 5dimes.
Poogs is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:24 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2008-2017, Two Plus Two Interactive
 
 
Poker Players - Streaming Live Online