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Old 10-04-2013, 04:53 PM   #401
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Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Someone I know is telling me they are an agent for WagerABC. Has anyone ever heard of them before? I feel like he is trying to scam me.
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Old 10-04-2013, 06:36 PM   #402
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What info are you looking for? People have been stiffed by agents with the same url before but they are mostly a PPH shop. The software is the same as PlayCr.
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Old 10-04-2013, 07:45 PM   #403
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Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

I don't know, I didn't even know what a PPH shop was until I just googled it. Think I'm just going stay away from it. It's my ex girlfriends cousin who I have known for well over a decade and I'm very friendly with his family and stuff, so I'm not sure if he'd scam me. I just never heard of this type of set up before.
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Old 10-04-2013, 11:28 PM   #404
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Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Hola amigos! I could use your help.

Received an email today from a site I don't play on anymore. Some promo saying I get a free bet up to 25% of my deposit. Says the free bet is paid instant cash no rollover reqs required. This sounds too good to be true. Before I deposit, what's the catch? What am I missing?
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Old 10-05-2013, 01:12 AM   #405
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If you truly relocated somewhere then you should have that country's ID, no? Why not just get a Canadian drivers license? I'm a US citizen too but live in Asia. I have gotten a driving license in every country I've lived.

Anyway, the ones I know first hand is that a Neteller rep told me they won't accept American passport as an ID and a Fortuna rep that their sportsbooks won't knowingly accept American citizens regardless of where they live.

Because im only here for a few months up to a maximum of 6 months? I don't know how to drive, im from ny where alot of ppl just take public transporation.


I cannot believe that they need canadian id. Pinnacle said no problem at all as long as i gave them copy of my canadian bank statement.
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Old 10-05-2013, 10:57 AM   #406
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Just Deposited on 5 dimes can only use one promo please help me pick!

So I can either use this new player reward program which every time you make wagers totaling up to your initial deposit you get 10% of your initial reward (50% of your initial deposit) released. So once you wager 1000% times your deposit you will have a 50% bonus.

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I can take advantage of 5 dimes reduced juice lines. As I am a new member I am not totally sure how good of a reduction these are. Any 5 dimes member have any advice? I'm leaning towards reduced juice at the moment as with smart BR management the first thing will take forever.


Edit: Thank you whoever moved this to where it belongs!

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Old 10-05-2013, 11:25 AM   #407
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Keep the default reduced juice option, those who take a 5Dimes bonus instead end up regretting it. Also, if you take bonus instead and manage to meet the rollover required, your theoretic return is less than had you made all those bets while being on reduced juice.
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Old 10-05-2013, 11:43 AM   #408
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Because im only here for a few months up to a maximum of 6 months? I don't know how to drive, im from ny where alot of ppl just take public transporation.


I cannot believe that they need canadian id. Pinnacle said no problem at all as long as i gave them copy of my canadian bank statement.
You don't actually live there, you are on vacation.
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Old 10-05-2013, 05:29 PM   #409
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Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Im on vacation for 6 months? Then why does pokerstars and other sportsbetting sites besides the greek has no problem with me playing on their site?
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Old 10-05-2013, 07:16 PM   #410
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Im on vacation for 6 months? Then why does pokerstars and other sportsbetting sites besides the greek has no problem with me playing on their site?
Are you a permanent resident of Canada? Do you have a visa? If no then you are on vacation. I'm surprised you could open as many accounts as you did.
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Old 10-05-2013, 07:32 PM   #411
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Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

TheGreek's founder is under indictment in the US and is out on bail with the legal proceedings ongoing. I'm not surprised the Greek is now extra careful about US accounts.

For me, even with a foreign ID, Foreign Utility Bill, Foreign Bank Account, Foreign Car Loan, Child's Birth Certificate from same country etc. (yes had to get into all this) it still took me like 8 emails to get an account with TheGreek opened because my name and date of birth matched a previous US account.

PokerStars doesn't offer sports betting so is really irrelevant to the conversation.

Every book has different policies, many do not want to take risks dealing with Americans. If you're in good health and a winning sports bettor, I have a feeling you'll be in driving school in the coming months. Foreign ID is a great investment.
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Old 10-05-2013, 07:32 PM   #412
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Someone I know is telling me they are an agent for WagerABC. Has anyone ever heard of them before? I feel like he is trying to scam me.
One of my locals uses this. It's as good as the guy you'd be betting with. The site provides an infrastructure, but you'd be relying on the "someone you know" to pay out
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Old 10-05-2013, 08:00 PM   #413
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TheGreek's founder is under indictment in the US and is out on bail with the legal proceedings ongoing. I'm not surprised the Greek is now extra careful about US accounts.

For me, even with a foreign ID, Foreign Utility Bill, Foreign Bank Account, Foreign Car Loan, Child's Birth Certificate from same country etc. (yes had to get into all this) it still took me like 8 emails to get an account with TheGreek opened because my name and date of birth matched a previous US account.

PokerStars doesn't offer sports betting so is really irrelevant to the conversation.

Every book has different policies, many do not want to take risks dealing with Americans. If you're in good health and a winning sports bettor, I have a feeling you'll be in driving school in the coming months. Foreign ID is a great investment.


What other sites is this much hassle like thegreek?
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Old 10-05-2013, 08:27 PM   #414
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Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

See post #398

The e-wallet NETELLER US passport not accepted as ID, and all Fortuna owned books US citizens (even non-resident) can't have accounts (though they have no way of checking if using foreign ID). When you start dealing with European books you are going to get extra flags using a US passport even if allowed. If you are an advantage gambler you obviously want to avoid that. Sites can close accounts for any reason anyways and it probably doesn't make sense to draw any extra attention unless absolutely needed.

Really opening a bunch of accounts because you have e-wallet is so ideal. Putting out your US passport on file with all of them.. eeek this does not sound good to me. I mean if you're not eligible, have a health reason or w/e okay you have to do it. but if it is simple don't like driving, well I mean most driving tests are pretty well controlled. Do it once and don't need to again.
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Old 10-08-2013, 01:14 AM   #415
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Which US SportsBooks Offer Alternate Lines for NFL

Hey i seen on a site where they let you pick the point spread but forgot what ones do it. Know of any. I have not seen it on bovada...... want to take jags at -10 this week. What would be the odds on that?
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Old 10-08-2013, 01:53 AM   #416
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Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

5Dimes has a drop down menu where you can select from several different point spreads. That is probably the best chance of reputable US sites to find what you're asking for. Though you probably won't find it until close to game time.
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Old 10-08-2013, 10:48 AM   #417
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5Dimes has a drop down menu where you can select from several different point spreads. That is probably the best chance of reputable US sites to find what you're asking for. Though you probably won't find it until close to game time.
Idk about the second part of that statement, I bet on the saints last night +3 (for this coming sundays game) when 5dimes default line was was +2.5. Not sure how long you have to wait for these options to come available.
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Old 10-08-2013, 10:59 AM   #418
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Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Half point buys are available early (already) he's looking for alternate lines. I don't use 5Dimes enough to know when those are available but I think it is late in the week.
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Old 10-08-2013, 11:02 AM   #419
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Ah I just read the post again. Jags +10 or +14.5 or something at big odds you might find somewhere, but Jags -10 I doubt you'll find.
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Old 10-09-2013, 10:18 PM   #420
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Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Just had an AWFUL experience with 5dimes. I wanted to use their Bet Tracker app that automatically syncs the bets in your account with your phone to view your bets anywhere. 5dimes states that you'll get a code to use this app with a $500 deposit. Well new accounts are limited to $250 deposits for their first 3 deposits. I made 2 $250 deposits in the same week assuming that I'd qualify for the Bet Tracker app this way. Well to sum it up I was WRONG and they do not care to lose an extremely active customer (betting my whole account balance every weekend) over a <$10 app.
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Old 10-09-2013, 11:36 PM   #421
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Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Ok, uh i'm new to sports betting. I signed up with 5dimes cuz they had one of the best lines. I won the bet, and went to withdraw via skrill.

Can anyone tell me wtf this rollover req is? Sounds like a crock of **** to me. They said they couldn't process my withdrawal because I a roll over remaining.
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Old 10-10-2013, 12:01 AM   #422
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Customers from outside of North America are required to rollover their deposit amount TWICE before qualifying for a redemption to be processed without incurring in an administrative fee. If the requirements are not fulfilled, the account will not qualify for a free redemption and an administrative fee will be charge without exceptions. Net winnings may be redeemed with no penalty fee.
So in order to cash out your deposited amount you need to wager it twice. You can however cash out your winnings right away. If you want to do it earlier, they are going to charge you the fee Skrill charges them on deposits + payouts and you will need to get details via their support.
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Old 10-10-2013, 12:06 AM   #423
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Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

Also FYI, if meet the 2x rollover, then using NYC's time zone.

If you request the payout on Mondays from 9:00am to 1:00pm ET ONLY there is no fee. Otherwise they ding you $15 for that Skrill withdrawal.

This is obviously annoying, but is the price / their protection / for having best odds a lot of the time.
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Old 10-10-2013, 04:28 AM   #424
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Just had an AWFUL experience with 5dimes. I wanted to use their Bet Tracker app that automatically syncs the bets in your account with your phone to view your bets anywhere. 5dimes states that you'll get a code to use this app with a $500 deposit. Well new accounts are limited to $250 deposits for their first 3 deposits. I made 2 $250 deposits in the same week assuming that I'd qualify for the Bet Tracker app this way. Well to sum it up I was WRONG and they do not care to lose an extremely active customer (betting my whole account balance every weekend) over a <$10 app.
Another poster in a deleted post pointed out the EV on betting your entire balance each week is like -$12.00 and that they might not find the value in that.

My thoughts is the $250 limit only applies to credit card deposits and for that they get hit with a larger fee and take on added risk. Probably $40 in fees, on your 2 deposits. But really, the issue is that you assumed. Next time jump on live chat and check to avoid disappointment.
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Old 10-12-2013, 01:37 AM   #425
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Re: Online Sportsbooks Discussion Thread (Which Are Best? Who offers X? etc. Discuss Here)

I relocated to canada and tried to create an SIA account. I was told i previously created an account back in the usa... but this was 2006 or so. They told me b/c of that reason, my account is shutdown. I ask why and they said security said thats the final word b/c i had an SIA acct in the usa so i can't even create a new one.


Anyone know why they have this policy?
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