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03-05-2013 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by microstakesrave
Assuming he's "never" going to be able to get it out. What's the other options?
In your scenario theres a 50/50 chance you lose 8k at one book and have 16k tied up at a book that isn't paying you. There's nothing you can do besides making the problem worse
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03-07-2013 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by IrishFrench
If you had only 5 outs that you could use offshore and bet for a living, what would they be?


I would assume its...


1. Pinnacle
2. Matchbook
3. Thegreek
4. Betfair
5. William Hill



I'm not familiar that much with those european books like betfair, william hill and ladbrokes but i did see they have an A rating on sbr so i put them on the list. I also heard about bet365 as well. I put william hill as 5th because the name sounds much more bigger than ladbrokes.


Would this list be pretty correct? I assume books like bovada and 5dimes are pretty useless for anyone that bets for a living offshore since they are known to limit? The great thing about 5dimes is the reduced juice but is it true anyone that wins and bets for a living probably will have a useless 5dimes account b/c of the limit?



Now what if you only had 3 outs?

Someone can answer this question?
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03-07-2013 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by IrishFrench
Someone can answer this question?
Ask 5 pros and you'll probably get 5 different answers as it depends on a variety of factors.
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03-08-2013 , 12:21 AM
betfair is pretty good imo
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03-08-2013 , 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by IrishFrench
If you had only 5 outs that you could use offshore and bet for a living, what would they be?


I would assume its...


1. Pinnacle
2. Matchbook
3. Thegreek
4. Betfair
5. William Hill



I'm not familiar that much with those european books like betfair, william hill and ladbrokes but i did see they have an A rating on sbr so i put them on the list. I also heard about bet365 as well. I put william hill as 5th because the name sounds much more bigger than ladbrokes.


Would this list be pretty correct? I assume books like bovada and 5dimes are pretty useless for anyone that bets for a living offshore since they are known to limit? The great thing about 5dimes is the reduced juice but is it true anyone that wins and bets for a living probably will have a useless 5dimes account b/c of the limit?



Now what if you only had 3 outs?

Anyone that can bet for a living can answer this?


Someone mentioned that all euro books are horrible and limit fast. That they limit faster than 5dimes/heritage. Is that true or false? They say if you up just a few thousand, the limit you whereas heritage/5dimes allows you to win 5 figures usually. Of course this is assumnig you aren't betting any steam.


And someone mentioned that betfair charges a ridiculous tax if you win. Can someone explain this? I read something like if you win 100k at betfair, they actually will take a 60 percent commission or something like that? I assume they only do this for ppl that win 5 digits? But still something doesn't add up right there b/c no way would play there if thats the case?


Because based on what is said then i think it would be

1. Pinnacle
2. Matchbook
3. 5dimes
4. Thegreek
5. Bookmaker


Thoughts on this?
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03-08-2013 , 02:55 AM
The reason it is not getting responses is because your question to most of us reads the same as "you are stuck on a deserted Islands. Using only what is on your person now write a list of 40 ways you will use these items for survival".

The easiest answer is to have an e-wallet and never have to only have 5 accounts. I view the lines at 50 different sources all day long. From there add agents, bet anywhere there is bets to exploit too.

Also you don't even mention what sports you're targeting. If you're betting soccer you have no Asian bookies on your list which is a huge mistake. If you're betting tennis your line up is fairly poor too. If cricket you're way off. The other factor is while not talked about a lot, many do not accept being limited and run cover to bet wherever we want to bet. It depends on a ton of factors.

Iowa! gave you the only appropriate answer to your question asked.
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03-08-2013 , 02:57 AM
It's also because he spams this across multiple forums and then doesn't read any of the responses.
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03-08-2013 , 01:57 PM
I'm talking about only the major american sports.

NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL.


Based on this, which of the 5 books should be the top 5 outs?
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03-08-2013 , 03:55 PM
Get locals
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03-08-2013 , 04:00 PM
Pinnacle or move to Las Vegas.
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03-08-2013 , 10:42 PM
Which is best bonus option? Reduced juice?

Last edited by Donkab0mber; 03-08-2013 at 10:49 PM.
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03-09-2013 , 06:33 AM
First has anyone here ever used them and if so did their account ever get credited? I signed up months ago and i still haven't gotten my credit.
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03-09-2013 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkab0mber
Which is best bonus option? Reduced juice?
us best bonus option is probably ****** right now i think they're running a 100% bonus up to $300. best non us bonus probably bet365 i think it's 100% up to $200 with easy rollover. bodog also offers a 100% bonus up to $100 i think.

best reduced juice inside usa is 5dimes, outside usa add pinnacle or ******
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03-09-2013 , 11:01 PM
At this point i'll assume that nobody has used the book. They're probably a scam anyway
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03-09-2013 , 11:25 PM
Do you mean that you deposited and were never credited the amount?

Last edited by GoDeViLs; 03-09-2013 at 11:34 PM.
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03-09-2013 , 11:39 PM
Not sure if they are credit wagering rebranded or if they are just using the same concept but chances they are a scam are pretty high. I didn't read them but seems like there is many results searching Google on them.
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03-10-2013 , 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by GoDeViLs
Do you mean that you deposited and were never credited the amount?
it's a credit site. They give u credit and if you are up or down more then x amount at the end of the week you settle. They have chat but are never actually there.
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03-13-2013 , 07:22 AM
I'm planning on moving around $800-1k online for the NCAA tournament and really just betting that for 2 weeks and moving the money back off. Would depositing/withdrawing via WU with 5Dimes be a solid way to avoid fees and to avoid getting shady checks from other sites?

Also I assume it shouldn't be much hassle getting the $40 discount from the WU withdrawal fee for a free payout from them?
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03-13-2013 , 07:48 AM
Yeah probably the best way to go is as you said. I'm not aware of any hold periods needed to get the discount on the fee. I do believe they require you to rollover deposit 2 times though to avoid admin fees. As long as will be doing that shouldn't be a problem. If really want to be sure contact live chat ask for Tony and ask him.
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03-13-2013 , 02:38 PM
does 5dimes offer any deposit bonuses? withdraw times are quick?
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03-13-2013 , 02:42 PM
Reduced juice if you don't take a bonus. Reduced Juice is a better deal. Same or next day P2P withdrawals
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03-13-2013 , 02:56 PM
How much is the juice reduced? do I need a special code for that when I deposit? whats the best p2p withdraw method in your experience?

Thanks!
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03-13-2013 , 04:02 PM
-105 juice on game day for most sports. Just in what will average completing a rollover will make more with reduced juice and it is ongoing instead of deposit dependent. And can cash out anytime with no rollover issues.

No code needed that's the default option. There are other bonuses to change to but those are primarily for gamblers that don't understand that reduced juice is better.

Both P2P companies are the same as far I know - but don't really use them. I live in Asia and have e-wallets.
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03-13-2013 , 04:37 PM
I just hate the p2p transfer fees they all charge
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03-13-2013 , 06:26 PM
I see bookmaker always offers a tons of reload bonuses. I'm curious but are there ppl who reload every single week at bookmaker? They seem to offer a 4x bonus which is a freeplay and max is $500. Wouldn't someone be able to just reload more and more just for the bonus? Also for march madness, they offer 15% bonus up to $2500. Is there anyone that takes advantage of this for the max such as deposit 17k for the 2500 bonus? Yes the rollover is going to be 80k or so but if someone is betting 1k min, is that worth it for them? Is it me or does it seem like bookmaker offers at least 10k a month in reload bonuses in a year?


You see this a lot. Lot of players depositing or reloading onto books that offer a bonus. Such as i see someone talk about ****** $300 bonus with some 10x bonus rollover. So after you wager the deposit say 300 + 300 bonus = 600 x 10x rollover, its 6000 rollover. Then you get a freeplay.


Assuming you wager the same 6000 on a book like pinnacle or 5dimes, wouldn't you get back more money as oppose to betting the -110 lines? Or if you bet Moneylines, those books are usually 5 cents worst if you take an underdog like +120 when 5dimes/pinny would offer +125.


It seems to me unless the bonus is a 5x rollover and its a cash bonus and not a freeplay bonus, its never going to be close to reduced juice at 5dimes or pinny. Did anyone do the math on this? Obvioulsy if you bet and get the same odds as 5dimes/pinny, of course gettnig the freeplay/bonus is good. But this won't be true.
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