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09-20-2009 , 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Kmon
.75u on ravens +2.5
4u on Steelers at -2.5
10u on Steelers even money
.5u on raiders +2.5
.6u on colts -3
1u on Giants +1
2u on Seahawks +1

and i have a 6 team parlay for .5u
raiders +2.5 , Saints em, Seahawks em, Steelers -2.5 , Giants +2.5 , Colts -3

ytd 5-1
+5U
You really got some terrible lines there, ravens widely avail at +3, raiders +4 and giants +3...
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09-20-2009 , 03:30 AM
I've got

Bears +3
Giants +3
Ravens +3
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09-20-2009 , 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Vincepcion
2.2u: Tennessee -6.5 @ [-102]
1.75u: Arizona +3 @ [+109]
1.4u: New York Jets +6.5 @ [-122]
1.4u: Green Bay -9 @ [+100]
1.25u: New Orleans +1 @ [-103]
0.8u: Cleveland +3 @ [+115]

Adding some totals

1.5u: Baltimore/San Diego OVER 39.5 @ [-110]
1u: Arizona/Jacksonville OVER 42.5 @ [-101]
1u: Carolina/Atlanta OVER 42.5 @ [+105]
0.7u: Oakland/Kansas City OVER 38 @ [-109]


NFL YTD: 5-3
+2.47u
Fixed for final plays.
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09-20-2009 , 06:35 AM
odds from bowmans:


OAK Raiders +3.0 kC Chiefs -3.0
NE Patriots -3.5 NY Jets +3.5
CIN Bengals +9.0 GB Packers -9.0
MIN Vikings -10.0 DET Lions +10.0
NO Saints -1.5 PHL Eagles +1.5
CAR Panthers +6.0 ATL Falcons -6.0
STL Rams +9.5 WAS Redskins -9.5
ARZ Cardinals +3.0 JAX Jaguars -3.0
SEA Seahawks +1.0 SF 49ers -1.0
TB Buccaneers +4.5 BUF Bills -4.5
CLE Browns +3.0 DEN Broncos -3.0
BAL Ravens +3.0 SD Chargers -3.0
PIT Steelers -3.0 CHI Bears +3.0
NY Giants +3.0 DAL Cowboys -3.0
IND Colts -3.0 MIA Dolphins +3.0
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09-20-2009 , 08:35 AM
New England Patriots @ New York Jets

This game has an extreme rivalry, everybody knows that both teams dislike each other and there are always arguments between coaches and players, before, during and after the games, but truth is, in the end, the Patriots always take the upper hand in this matches always loaded with great rivalry.

To be honest, the Jets were a good surprise on Week 1, they played very well on the Defense, delivering a lot of pressure on the opponent QB and rookie QB Sanchez did a reliable game and had a nice debut, however the Texans rarely pressured him and he did everything he wanted to do, which surely will change on this game against the Patriots.

Defensively, the Jets were excelent estiveram excelent against Houston, but the Texans don't have the offensive solutions that New England has at his disposal on their arsenal. The Patriots has the best Offense and will surely make life harder to the Jets Defense, both on the Running Game and on the Passing Game as well, because New England is much more stronger than the Texans when it comes down to score the points.

The Patriots will miss due to injury a very important player: Jerod Mayo was hurt against the Bills and he will be out for a few weeks. Despite his absence, New England did a good job against the Bills, under the circunstances, if we take in account that of the 24 points conceded by the Pats, 7 (a touchdown) were offered by Tom Brady, therefore, only 17 points should be accounted to the New England Defense.

It is probable that the Patriots will do tactical changes on their D, but for me, they are ready to face the Jets Offense. Belichick knows too well that in order to win this game, his Defense will have to pressure the Jets rookie QB with a lot of sacks and to disrupt his work. Sanchez will not have all the commodities enjoyed against the Texans, so they will simply come after him, inflicting on him a lot of damage and forcing him to make the errors and bad decisions throughout the game.

As I already told you, the Pats have great Offensive Power, but on the Ground and on the Air as well. Tom Brady started his first game of the season after a long stop delivering short passes, but when it was needed, he took care of the game with his perfect throws aimed to his Wide Receiver and Tight End, which resulted in another Patriots' victory.

I also want to add that the New England Offense on his last drives resembled the team that benefited from great success in 2007. The ease that the Pats showed to arrive to the Bill's end zone was quite impressive and I think that despite a very hard victory, it gave the New England defensive line a boost on their Morale and to their QB Tom Brady as well, which already knows that he is ready to deliver the long passes when needed and to do a very agressive game.

For all these reasons stated above, I believe the Patriots will win this game by double digits and therefore, there is a lot of value on this line.


Pick: New England Patriots -3,5 +100 (2,00) The Greek
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09-20-2009 , 08:38 AM
Theses are my picks for Week 2, I only bet on the bottom 4 games.

[B]OAK Raiders +3.0 kC Chiefs -3.0
NE Patriots -3.5 NY Jets +3.5
CIN Bengals +9.0 GB Packers -9.0
MIN Vikings -10.0 DET Lions +10.0
NO Saints -1.5 PHL Eagles +1.5
CAR Panthers +6.0 ATL Falcons -6.0
STL Rams +9.5 WAS Redskins -9.5

ARZ Cardinals +3.0 JAX Jaguars -3.0
SEA Seahawks +1.0 SF 49ers -1.0
TB Buccaneers +4.5 BUF Bills -4.5
CLE Browns +3.0 DEN Broncos -3.0
BAL Ravens +3.0 SD Chargers -3.0
PIT Steelers -3.0 CHI Bears +3.0
NY Giants +3.0 DAL Cowboys -3.0
IND Colts -3.0 MIA Dolphins +3.0
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09-20-2009 , 08:41 AM
Houston Texans @ Tennessee Titans

Houston comes from a heavy defeat at home against the Jets and they will play next Sunday against a very good team, which actually also lost their first game.

For what I saw from the Texans, their QB doesn't seem to be at 100% and their option for the rushing game hasn't done anything good, since the Jets were able to stop that kind of game. Despite all this, Houston will choose to use the rushing game against the Titans, but I believe they won't be able to achieve great success doing it, because Tennessee have a great defensive line against that kind of plays.

The Titans have one the best overall rosters of the NFL, their Defense is excelent and practically all their plays are very physically strong. It is true that their rushing game against the Steelers didn't played quite well, but the Houston Defense doesn't have anything related to the Pittsburg D, henceforth I think that the key for the success of this game for the Titans to win this match is lying on top of their good rushing game against a very weak defense on the opposite side.

Besides their Rush Offense, they also have a good weapons on their passing game and those who witness Houston's first game, could see how difficult it was for them to play against the Pass Offense. As I already stated, the Titans are fresh and have one of the best teams in the league and they had more resting time than the Texans, which is also an added advantage, but that is not the most important factor.

Titans should win this game by at least one TD or more, because their Defense is playing very strongly and this Tennesse team is too good to even went 0-2. The value is on the Titans side and that is the side I will take for this game.


Pick: Tennessee Titans -6,5 (1,91) Bookmaker
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09-20-2009 , 08:48 AM
Minnesota Vikings @ Detroit Lions

I can only see the Vikings win Big and the reason for that is quite simple: Minnesota has a very good Defense indeed, both on the Ground against the Air, their defensive line doesn't allow any room for easy plays to no one. Their rushing game is impressive and we already know that and the reason for it: Adrian Peterson, which is in my opinion the best Running back in the league and he proved it again on Week 1. He is fast, athletic and very strong physically, doing whatever he wants against the opponents defenses.

Last season, Minny great problem was their Passing Game. With the arrival of Brett Favre, that aspect of the Vikings' offensive game has improved considerably and the team has now a lot of options and plays to choose on their Offense, which will make the lives of their opponent's Defensive lines a lot harder, because now they will not know what to expect from that Minny's OL. If last season, it was obvious how Minnesota would play, this season the opponents defensive coordinators have to prepare their Defenses both for a Favre's pass or against another Adrian Peterson rush.

The Detroit Lions continue to have the same problem as last year: a very weak Defense, both against the passing game as the rushing game as well. Simply put, the Lions' D sucks and honestly I don's see how they will stop Adrian Peterson's rushes or Brett Favre passes. Other factor that plays against Detroit on this game is that the Rookie QB Stafford is still a freshmann and he even didn't do a bad game against the New Orleans Saints, but he registered 3 interceptions against one team that in my opinion is far below on Defensive quality when stacked against the Vikings Defense, therefore, I don't see an easy life on this match for the Detroit's rookie quarterbacks.

It is true that the Lions registered 27 against the Saints, but those who saw that game, know that Detroit scored their touchdowns mostly thanks to the serious mistake by the New Orleans Defense, which I already stated, is weaker than the Vikings D, otherwise, had the Saints defensive line played as "expected", and the Lions Offense would have scored a lot less than 27 points.

The Minnesota Vikings has a very good team this year and they will surely want to be present on the Playoffs and for this game, they are the team with the edge on all the sectors, having the best QB, the most experience, a superior rushing game, a better passing game or a stronger defense, and for all this, I believe in an easy win for the Vikes for at least 2 touchdowns.


Pick: Minnesota Vikings -9,5 -110 (1,91) Bookmaker
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09-20-2009 , 08:52 AM
Seattle Seahawks @ San Francisco 49ers

Seattle comes to this game after an easy home win where they dominated the Rams and the 49ers went to Arizona to defeat the Cardinals, showing their good qualities on the opponent's field.

The Seahawks have an excelent Defense which will surely be able to stop both the 49ers' the aerial and ground Offense. Seattle has also good options on their Offense, but they will face a very agressive Defense which has great quality, henceford, the Seahawks won't have the commodities they had in the game against the St. Louis Rams.

The 49ers won the game against the Cardinals in a way that everybody least expected... Meaning, they won the game thanks to their passing game. But they will use mostly their rushing game, knowing for a fact that the Seahawks D is very good against the air and they have enough manpower to shutdown their attempts to use the passing game as the main offensive weapon. San Francisco has also a lot of quality on their Defense and the 49ers D will make this game very difficult for the Seahawks Offense thanks to their agressiveness.

Both Defenses are really good, so you should expect a lot of turnovers, os 49ers will surely rush the ball and I believe we will have a very hard fought match between these teams and a low point game for both teams, with the defenses to stand out.


Pick: Under 40 Points -110 (1,91) Legendz / -107 (1,935) Pinnacle
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09-20-2009 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sixers030409
You really got some terrible lines there, ravens widely avail at +3, raiders +4 and giants +3...
Those lines have been movin all week. I can guarantee you cant find +4 on the raiders anywhere right now. Giants and Ravens can be found at 3 in many places though (Giants only because of injuries, never expected that to stay but looks like it will now)
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09-20-2009 , 11:28 AM
OAK Raiders +3.0 kC Chiefs -3.0 1.1 u
NO Saints -2.5 PHL Eagles -2.5 1.1 u
SEA Seahawks +1.0 SF 49ers -1.0 1.1 u
TB Buccaneers +4.5 BUF Bills -4.5 1.1u
CLE Browns +3.0 DEN Broncos -3.0 1.1u
BAL Ravens +3.0 SD Chargers -3.0 1.1u
PIT Steelers -3.0 CHI Bears +3.0 1.1u
NY Giants +3.0 DAL Cowboys -3.0 1.1u
IND Colts -3.0 MIA Dolphins +3.0 1.1u
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09-20-2009 , 11:43 AM
Ravens are down to +1.5, and will probably be a pick'em by game time.

Same type of line movement with the Saints.

I booked both @ their opening lines.

Good luck.
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09-20-2009 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by mazjr13
I've got

Bears +3
Giants +3
Ravens +3
I like your picks, because I think today will be a doggy dog day..gl.
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09-20-2009 , 11:52 AM
3-2 last week with the Patriots and Chargers losses ATS resulting in an even weekend.

I'm riding the Vikings again, and will continue to do so, until they prove they're not the team I think they are.

The Patriots game is a must see for me. The last time Belicheck faced a Rex Ryan defense was vs the Ravens in '07. Due to a stupid timeout call by Ryan at the end of the game, the Pats were let off the hook to continue their unbeaten season. Brady went something like 18-39, 2 td's and 1 int and a 76 qb rating. The Ravens SHOULD have won that game.

An interesting matchup is Randy Moss vs the cb Revis. They've matched up 4 times. The first game Moss had 10 catches for 148 yards, the next three matchups, Moss had 9 catches combined. Any mediocre NFL wr will beat even the best db one on one, it's the dl/ol that makes the difference. If Belicheck doesn't come up with a scheme to slow down the rush, Moss might have a tough day.

Belicheck is 18-2 vs a qb playing for the first time vs the Patriots. Dirty Sanchez wasn't tested last week and had all day to throw while at USC. If the Patriots can apply pressure and Belicheck puts together a package to confuse Sanchez, the Jets o could be in for a tough one.

I never bet against the Pats, but my guess is the probability for the this one to go under the number is my best bet.
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09-20-2009 , 12:01 PM
Fade the Eagles: take 2 - NO ML

I think come mid season (once Macho, Omar, and the oline get things figured out) the Eagles are the best team in the NFC but they aren't there yet. Justing hoping to avoid a special teams TD and 7 To's this week.
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09-20-2009 , 12:20 PM
YTD 2-2 +1.9 Units

Risk One Unit to win X
Oakland +115
Houston +270
Carolina +225
Cleveland +175


Jacksonville -3 Risk 1.1 to win 1

Pitt -3 Risk 2 to win 2.1
Indy -3 Risk 2.4 to win 2

Will be on the Giants but the line keeps moving with them so I will wait.

Ken

PS I have been a losing NFL bettor the last 2 years so fading may be a good option.
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09-20-2009 , 12:45 PM
posted record 2-1

going with a few more picks this week:

1. NYJ +5
2. MIN/DET U 46.5 (this is good down to 39 IMO)
3. ARI/JAX U 43
4. PIT/CHI U 37.5
5. BAL +3
6. TB/BUF O 42
7. CAR +6.5

These are pretty much in the order I like them, although the minny under might be the best pick. Some picks I like but not enough to bet are OAK +3, OAK team total over 18, CLE ML, and NYG/DAL O 44.5. I will add MIA if they get the 3.5.
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09-20-2009 , 04:19 PM
Always good to blow up your wong teasers in the early games. Chasing losses ftw
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09-20-2009 , 05:42 PM
2h unders are awesome when they score a td in the first seconds of the 2h

its like you sold off 7 points and didn't improve your price any
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09-20-2009 , 07:52 PM
NFL Week 2: 6-4 (+2.43u)
NFL YTD: 11-7 (+4.9u)
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09-20-2009 , 07:59 PM
My buddy wants me to offer him odds on a push in the Dallas game. Apparently his local has Dallas (-3) and he wants to bet me precisely that Dallas wins by 3. What kinda odds should he get?
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09-20-2009 , 08:11 PM
**** u bodog
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09-20-2009 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by burden2
posted record 2-1

going with a few more picks this week:

1. NYJ +5
2. MIN/DET U 46.5 (this is good down to 39 IMO)
3. ARI/JAX U 43
4. PIT/CHI U 37.5
5. BAL +3
6. TB/BUF O 42
7. CAR +6.5

These are pretty much in the order I like them, although the minny under might be the best pick. Some picks I like but not enough to bet are OAK +3, OAK team total over 18, CLE ML, and NYG/DAL O 44.5. I will add MIA if they get the 3.5.
Week 2: 5-2
YTD: 7-3

I'm surprised there is not more interest in this in 2 plus 2. So many "+EV" situations. Then again it is kind of cool I don't need sportsmarkets flooded with educated grinders.

If you picked NE to cover you really know nothing about the NFL handicapping and are a huge sportsbetting fish who should never make a bet unless it's just for fun. Not a nice thing to say on my part but it's so true I can't help it.

So jets was an auto bet like AA after a raise and re-raise. That went as predicted.

MIN/DET under was a little closer than I thought. Am dying to see how the lions scored 17 points.

ARI/JAX under I guess I should have went with the side there. Got screwed on freak defensive TD plus more offense from cards than I thought. Oh well if it wasn't for luck I would win them all.

PIT/CHI under was not as close as it seemed and usually these teams will not be getting tD's for every score. I was surprised at the number of pass attempts.

BAL +3 was a little scary because everyone and their momma was on it. But given that SD would not be able to run the ball you had to like bal. HAd I known Rivers would set personal passing records I would have laid off. probably.

TB/BUF over. little overlooked gem. I watched the tB dallas game week one.

CAR +6.5. Of course I make a marginal bet and it can't win. No numbers involved here just trusting on CAR's ground game to suppress the score and give Jake some confidence. Really expected a 16-20 type game. Have to see what happened there.
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09-20-2009 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by southgapoker
My buddy wants me to offer him odds on a push in the Dallas game. Apparently his local has Dallas (-3) and he wants to bet me precisely that Dallas wins by 3. What kinda odds should he get?
about 9:1 if you want to be fair.
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09-20-2009 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerKing213
**** u bodog
Can you not get on to bet the Boys/Gmen either?
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