Ridiculous to make any assumptions from that brawl.

Jones only landed shots whilst his manager was holding DC's arms.....

Hopefully others see it that way also and the odds for DC improve, I still think he'll bully jones badly in this fight.

I usually have a favorite in-mind for every fight I intend to bet on, got nothing for the DC/JONES. I like DC and think hes got a 40%+ chance to close the deal. Jones is a whole new beast. No hate to DC, big fan. I just don't think he has what it takes to take out the champ. *I am not a Jones fan. I want to see him get mauled, I just don't see it happening..yet.

The brawl was not indicative of anything but two testosterone pumped dudes getting into each others face. Judging the outcome of the fight on a skirmish is naive and belongs on a different board - sherdog.

A buddy of mine isn't betting on the bout, simply 'to enjoy it'. I still intend to bet on the underdog in hopes there's an upset for now; I'll have to re-watch past fights and make the +EV bet.

Looking forward to the fight nonetheless. Would appreciate some feedback on picks for the DC vs JJ fight.

Abel Trujillo has withdrawn from his upcoming bout against Ross Pearson after suffering an undisclosed injury, the Ultimate Fighting Championship announced on Monday.

Well that explains the line move on Pearson

That sucks I really liked Maynard to beat Camoes and Pearson to beat Trujillo and now both bets get cancelled

Hoping to get Pearson +230 or so but i'd take Maynard at evens despite his chin being shot

Watched the post-brawl Jones/Cormier interview, both came across as so unlikable, so regardless of who wins i'll be cheering for Gustafsson or Rumble to take out the winner. I think I like Jones at -155 but Cormier's definitely one of the most dangerous guys he's faced

For the record I am not basing anything on the back of this brawl, my thoughts have been for a long time Jones will find it easy to beat Cormier. I called it weeks ago.


What I was saying is Cormier came out of it looking like a pussy. He started the fight by placing his hand on Jones throat, some may say Jones started it by sticking his face directly into Cormiers but that is pretty standard in UFC stare downs. So after initiating a fight then realising Jones wants to take it further than pushing Cormier backs off, some people say he was held back but he is a pro fighter and elite wrestler. No way some average Joe could even hold him off let alone force him back. So there is pussy trait one, starts a fight then runs when the other guy is up for it. Pussy trait 2 is after he fell off the step and Jones jumped on top of him he fails to protect himself and fails to fight back. I just read someone say Jones manager was holding Cormiers arms. Really? He's a professional fighter and elite wrestler, how can a manager possibly hold his arms? Jones had 3-4 security men all trying to pull him off and he only got off because he decided to, had he really wanted to he could have stayed on to and punched Cormier all night. Pussy trait 3 is the little kick attempt after he was freed and helped up onto his feet while Jones was backing up, it missed by a mile and looked pretty weak. Then finally his 4th act of being a pussy, when they are well clear of one another and with security flocked between them he takes off his shoe and tries to throw it at Jones. Again missing by a mile. He then got some female assistant to go and pick it back up.


All of that is irrelevant though, Jones will win because he is on another level to Cormier in terms of all round ability, fighting intelligence, mma experience and his strengths match up well to where Cormier is weak while Cormiers only advantage (wrestling) is much less effective as Jones is an excellent wrestler too.

If Jones runs and point-fight (at least in the beginning) he'll probably win. If it's a wrestling or clinch-fight Cormier wins.

I think Cormier have a very good chance at that. Not to mention, there's no way of telling how getting physically destroyed by Alex will impact Jones. To go about feeling like a god and then realize you are very much a human...

I'm happy there seems to be true hatred between them though. Makes me much more excited about the fight (and i already was very very excited).

Going through match histories, skimming through past fights and I'm leaning more towards Jones. I don't want to see Cormier lose, but somebody has to. I enjoy his shenanigans on the fox panel and behind the scene antics. Anyone who appreciates Popeyes chicken as much as I do gets a thumbs up.

Tough fight for both guys. I still dislike Jones and hope somebody smashes his teeth in. Not Cormier though... cause' I'm betting on Jones.

He came back and beat up Glover for 5 rounds.

Also he clearly won 3 rounds in his fight with Alex, and landed the biggest shots of the fight. People are still blowing this out of proportion.

Some might say glover is not on the level of cormier.

He also did not CLEARLY win three rounds. Thats why it is heavily debated. Personally i gave jones the w but he got beat up way way worse than alex.

Also he landed the biggest shot which also saved him from the ongoing asswhooping he was receiving.
Most of the hard punches were landed by his foe.

Jones puts his forehead on DC's head and keeps walking forward. DC pushes him back (neck chop GMAFB) and makes no further move at Jones. Jones goes ape**** and charges swinging. DC's obviously not expecting a fight and has to push somebody away to even get in a position to dodge the first stuff. Who knows what's going on offstage. Jones was nuts to charge DC and start winging punches over effectively nothing, or at the least nothing he shouldn't have been expecting given his head-push plan. I mean for ****'s sake, I've seen plenty of people in plenty of sporting activities at every level down to rec-league stuff get in each other's face and shove off, and it's pretty rare to take it to an actual fight.

My read is exactly the opposite- Jones came in way worked up, pulled a pre-planned bitch move, and then went nuts. DC came in expecting a professional event and didn't do anything out of the ordinary until the lol shoe toss at the very end.

Bizarre breakdown of the situation....

Wouldn't be shocked if you can get Pearson at + tbh I expect Maynard to open a small fav

Pearson -145. Pearson has a decent chance to get the KO and retire Maynard here. Not sure about the line though. THoughts?

What, Cormier clearly got taken down by the security guards when they pulled him back and they fell of the screen whereupon Jones broke from like 1 security guard and hopped on Cormier trying to punch him.

Just tired of the hypocrisy, White is thrilled about this and no mentions of repurcessions when Jones literally tries to punch Cormier not just your average scuffold of pushing and yelling. I bet if this was some other fighter, he'd get kicked out of the UFC and we'd be seeing a different story.

There was an MMA judge right next to the stage who saw the whole thing. He scored it 30-27 for Diego Sanchez.

Is it heavily debated?

It was an absolutely amazing fight and great effort from Gustaffson but I don't really know of anybody who doesn't agree Jones won the fight.

Jones won clearly 3 rounds to 2, if it was debatable and there was any decent claims that Gus won then the UFC would have gave him an immediate rematch wouldn't they? But as it was a correct and just victory for Jones they couldn't justify giving Gus a rematch and not allowing the next in line a crack at the title.

http://www.mmadecisions.com/decision...der-Gustafsson
http://blog.fightmetric.com/2013/09/...icial-ufc.html

Most media persons gave it to Jones except BJnews (though we know they usually go for dmg over volume). I don't think anyone would have called it a robbery if Gustafsson had won tbh.

If we look at the stats, they're quite equal with Jones landing more volume due to his kicks but Gustafsson had more significant head strikes and clearly did more damage with his strikes. I think this was the case of Jones looking like he was the more active one because he threw more leg jabs and was the aggressor and had overall more strikes, but Gustafsson had more significant strikes to the body and the head, whereas jones only had more significant strikes to the legs (they didn't seem to do that much dmg so questionable how significant they were in reality). Funny enough, it was Jones needing help to walk out of the octagon and not Gustafsson.

Damage/bruise wise? Gustafsson fkd Jones up. But we can't always go with that one, I mean GSP looked more bruised than condit when they fought and it was a clear cut decision win for GSP.

I'm not arguing that Cormier is better than Glover. I gave Glover no shot of winning, and am actually picking Cormier here. You were just talking about how he would react to the Gus fight, which is sort of a pointless argument considering what he did to Glover in his last outing

I don't think it is a heavily debated fight. It was entertaining, back and forth, and very close. However Jones won 3 rounds, and i think anyone with an unbiased opinion can see that.

Also regardless of when that spinning elbow landed, it was by far the best shot of the fight, and the only time in the fight that either fighter looked in serious danger of being finished.

UFC and Dana White wanted the immediate rematch but Jones was heavily against it. He wanted to fight Glover and he got what he wanted.

STOP

Jacare -210 Mousasi

Jacare should win this. Mousasi, as skilled as he is, just gives too much away with a lack of urgency.

I like Jacare as well, and surprising enough he's moved to -155 since opening an hour ago.

I love him at -155

Pearson -116 Maynard +105

Shot chin aside I think I like Maynard at better than evens, but I love watching him lose so won't bet on him unless the line improves a bunch so I can cheer for Pearson

Really thought I would get + money on Pearson. Think he may be worth it at -130, but made a terrible call on Te Huna vs Marquart for a very similar reason.

Not willing to bet it quite yet, but I think Mousasi wins this fight. His ground game is very good (just look at his sweep vs Machida) and is more than enough to survive. Then i think in the later rounds his cardio holds up, he stops some TD attempts, and uses his dominant striking to win the fight.