Agreed felt was 2-2 heading into 5th with machida taking 5th with ease

50-45 ****** Brazilian judges and puntit only

2-2 is lol but w.e you need to think to think you made a good bet capping mousasi at -400 or w.e u said dudes only notable wins were in the wwe wrestling tv show japan

1,3,5 clear Machida, I gave 2 to Mousasi and 4 a tie - both of those were close.

The 3 sherdog scorers had it 49-46 machida although two of them had the same score card as I did with the third scoring it giving mouse the 4th. Either way the problem with Gegard seems to be the lack of urgency in his fights. His gaurd looked really good overall, pretty good use of butterfly keeping machida off balance

is there a post fight press conference? Can't seem to find it.

I mean, I thought it was 3-1 and bet on Machida too, but you have to be the most unlikable poster in the history of the sportsbetting forum and you haven't even scammed anyone

Made it clear on here multiple times I felt it was a 50/50 (that doesn't mean -400) and the odds +200 and above justified the bet.

You literally have no clue....

k well i thought gegard can win in japan but wont beat any top fighters in real fighting and thought -200 on machida was lol

but then again you literaly have no clue..

Want to bet on that?

Agreed, with all of the wondering about how much urgency Machida would show, I think I lost sight of the fact that Mousasi has shown the same tendency to coast.

I lol

Case in point: they scored the fight for Machida, 49-47.

10-10 fourth FWIW

I thought Machida took r1, r3 and r5, and Mousasi r2 and r4. All the rounds he took except for r1 was clear. Mousasi's only clear round was r4 imo. R2 you could sway Machidas head kick in favor to win 2nd round but I think Mousasi did more dmg, especially with the leg kicks (which he stopped throwing after a while for some reason...).

Anyway, I think we can put the saying that Machida doesn't win against strikers behind us now.

Honest question: Considering Mousasi was never close to stopping Machida and only won 1 round on one card, does that really suggest that +200 was pretty good?

Even if the judging was off, I mean it wasn't entirely unexpected that the judges would lean Machida in Brazil or was the assumption that the Davis-Machida fight was also in Brazil (and Machida gets screwed by judges enough) so the 50-45 cards were more run bad than anything else?

The fight was not close by any stretch.

The decision was not close, but the fight was close if that makes sense. No one was close to a finish and Machida just slightly outlanded Mousasi in clean strikes in the rounds he won.

Over the whole fight Machida landed prob 3-4 cleaner strikes that got him the nod . Although round for round machida won it was an incredible close fight where almost no damage was done by either fighter. Without the commentary or crowd cheering for every shot machida threw it would have been considered much closer (Gregard did actually land more)

It wouldn't have taken very much for those rounds to have gone the other way so +200 was pretty good value. Had machida been hugely outstriking or dropping gregard throughout the fight the bet would have been bad.

Since it was in Brazil, though, wasn't the crowd cheering always going to be an edge for Machida perception-wise? The judges may not get commentary but they do hear the crowd. Considering round 4 went to Machida on two cards, doesn't that suggest that Mousasi would have had to do a good deal more to sway judges' opinion in the other rounds?

I had definitely underestimated the brazil judging before the fight. I was feeling safer on it after the Davis result but looks like it was payback time. After the undercard it was pretty clear gregard would need a stoppage or absolute domination to get the nod.

Not sure we should be capping fights on the corruption levels of judges but in this case it had the potential to have a significant impact.

Kenny Florian's commentating didn't exactly help either. Every time Machida landed something it sounded like it was a knockdown blow when Florian announced it, whereas when Gegard hit Machida he wasn't as ecstatic in his announcing.

That's more my concern. I'm wondering if it is something that I should be paying more attention to in the future. Started thinking a lot about if after Bendo's last fight. It doesn't matter if I think he is losing fights if the judges don't agree since they decide if I am winning or losing the bet.

I honestly think in this fight if they switched giving Gregard Machidas performance and vice versa Machida still would have got the nod.

Cormier is -1500, that's laughable. Way to many unknowns about this cut. Also Cormier has been unable to make an excelent transition from Wrestling to MMA Wrestling (less than 50% TD success over strikeforce/ufc) and is facing the best wrestler he has faced.

Obviously A lot of questions and unknowns about Cummins as well. However at +700 I'm will to make the bet small. To bad Rashad got forced out, was planning on going big.

Also think Alexis Davis is going to be the bet of the card. Eye should of lost her last fight, and Striking was far from great. Alexis should be able to pepper her with straight punches and leg kicks all fight long. Then if it hits the ground, i don't see it even being close. Will have to do a little more research on Eye before i fire on the line, but -190 seems great!

I'm liking all this drama surrounding Cormier and Cummins. Good move by Cummins imo to attract attention to himself, now I want to see him fight Cormier. Ldo, Cormiers wrestling is better than Cummins as if it wasn't it would have been Cormier rotating in on Cummins during the preparation for the olympics and not vice versa. Still good move by him to garner a bit of a name for himself even before stepping in the octagon.

I disagree with yoyobo, I think Cormiers wrestling has transitioned just fine to MMA wrestling (not the best, but definitely top 10). He never gets taken down and he's been able to controll all his fights thanks to his base.

Feel this is the most important factor in the fight. We know last time Cormier tried to fight at this sort of weight he nearly died I'm sure he learnt from it but he's also older now.

On paper he should win this with ease but there's a chance he enters the cage a shadow of his heavyweight self.