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11-24-2013 , 09:11 AM
Was a terrible stoppage but a great fight up until that point. Hopefully there will be a rematch also good to see Pacquiao back in good form.
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11-24-2013 , 01:48 PM
Armbarred my friend like 2 years ago. Demanded rematch tonight. I have a bad knee so I figure hey I'll just pull guard that way nobody will get hurt. Slap on the ole triangle after failing a couple of amateur sweep attempts. He tried slamming me out of it. Busted my head open on a tile floor and had to get it stapled shut -_- Tapped him tho!
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11-24-2013 , 01:53 PM
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Armbarred my friend like 2 years ago. Demanded rematch tonight. I have a bad knee so I figure hey I'll just pull guard that way nobody will get hurt. Slap on the ole triangle after failing a couple of amateur sweep attempts. He tried slamming me out of it. Busted my head open on a tile floor and had to get it stapled shut -_- Tapped him tho!
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11-24-2013 , 01:54 PM
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Armbarred my friend like 2 years ago. Demanded rematch tonight. I have a bad knee so I figure hey I'll just pull guard that way nobody will get hurt. Slap on the ole triangle after failing a couple of amateur sweep attempts. He tried slamming me out of it. Busted my head open on a tile floor and had to get it stapled shut -_- Tapped him tho!
You need to put on some weight so he can't slam you!

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11-24-2013 , 02:42 PM
Donald Cerrone is expected to face Adriano Martins on January 25, 2014 at UFC on Fox 10 in Chicago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adriano_Martins

That's the same card as bendo/thomson, gonzaga/miocic and elkins/stephens.
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11-24-2013 , 04:36 PM
Nice, also interested to see Gonzaga Miocic. Initially I'd go with Miocic but I think Gonzaga has a decent chance.

Also, UFC trying to get Cerrone a couple of wins so they have a new backup contender? Seems reasonable and tbh, on a good night I think Cerrone stands chance of shocking lot of people, even though he should be a underdog to most of top 5 ranked(though Maynard I think he should be a favorite over and Thompson I've yet to see his full potential in the UFC).

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11-24-2013 , 06:03 PM
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You need to put on some weight so he can't slam you!

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I should have hooked the leg :/
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11-24-2013 , 06:18 PM
The most important thing is getting any angle so they can't slam you.
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11-24-2013 , 06:46 PM
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I should have hooked the leg :/
Congrats on the win!
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11-24-2013 , 07:31 PM
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More relevant, from tuf 5, go to 3:35.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6c2_1181206610

Also why would you fight/grapple w a friend on a tile floor. And what kind of ****** would slam someone else instead of tapping out... this is frowned upon even on ****ing mats. Was it a serious fight or something?
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11-25-2013 , 01:16 PM
Adlan Amagov vs Jason High set for the Jan 15th card.



^^^^
GIF - Adlan Amagov vs. T.J. Waldburger #UFC166

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11-25-2013 , 05:03 PM
Looking forward to Gonzaga/Miocic. I hope Gonzaga is a +200ish dog again so I can play him. Winner of this fight can have the winner of Mir/Overeem maybe then a number one contender fight if they win that since it'd a be decent streak

Also got 1u on Diaz, Maynard's chin seems to be shot and while Maynard can definitely win a decision it's a 5 rounder and Diaz should have the advantage standing and cardio wise and he has the BJJ to survive on the ground

With a perfect gameplan Maynard could LnP him but I just don't know whether he'll be able to do it, I think Maynard's prime is coming to an end

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11-25-2013 , 06:05 PM
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More relevant, from tuf 5, go to 3:35.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6c2_1181206610

Also why would you fight/grapple w a friend on a tile floor. And what kind of ****** would slam someone else instead of tapping out... this is frowned upon even on ****ing mats. Was it a serious fight or something?
Answer to first question: alcohol is bad (tho we had a big rug we started on, must have shifted off the rug at some point). Answer to second questions: alcohol is bad and my friend is dumb. Nah it was a friendly match -_-

Hah never seen that vid, yeah it was very much like that.

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Congrats on the win!
Haha thx.

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Adlan Amagov vs Jason High set for the Jan 15th card.



^^^^
GIF - Adlan Amagov vs. T.J. Waldburger #UFC166
Amagov probably win this by KO.

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Looking forward to Gonzaga/Miocic. I hope Gonzaga is a +200ish dog again so I can play him. Winner of this fight can have the winner of Mir/Overeem maybe then a number one contender fight if they win that since it'd a be decent streak

Also got 1u on Diaz, Maynard's chin seems to be shot and while Maynard can definitely win a decision it's a 5 rounder and Diaz should have the advantage standing and cardio wise and he has the BJJ to survive on the ground

With a perfect gameplan Maynard could LnP him but I just don't know whether he'll be able to do it, I think Maynard's prime is coming to an end
Miocic for me here all day. He will be at least -200, if he's anything less he's an autobet. His chin/hittability is slightly concerning but he should be able to outbox Gonzaga and stop him at some point.

Agreed Diaz should beat Maynard but I think I heard it's 3 rounds?
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11-25-2013 , 06:36 PM
No surprise that Miocic is a favorite (completely owning Nelson on the feet in his last fight) but I wouldn't underestimate Gonzaga.

Agree that Maynard is fading. ND should win that fight and I don't see it going to a decision.
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11-25-2013 , 07:21 PM
mark hunt should be able to ko silva or at least decision him?
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11-25-2013 , 07:42 PM
Silva's takedowns are pretty decent. He probably will tap Hunt pretty easily if he can get him down. No idea here.

Blanco -165 looks pretty tempting. Corassani is awful
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11-25-2013 , 07:43 PM
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mark hunt should be able to ko silva or at least decision him?
huntoo has decent td defense, but if silva really wants to td and gnp him he can... only question is, will he? because if not he'll get ko'ed lol ^^
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11-25-2013 , 07:56 PM
bigfoot taking down some russian guy:



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11-25-2013 , 10:14 PM
If mark hunt can stop the takedown i don't see bigfoot leaving the first. However, I'm not at all confident that he can stop the takedown.
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11-25-2013 , 10:19 PM
Pretty sure Silva wins with a good gameplan but if he decides to 'stand and bang' he's getting knocked out. Think i'll take Silva here at evens but I expect him to be a fav.

Miocic is technically better than Gonzaga but has a questionable chin and Struve knocked him out s Gonzaga can if he connects. Gonzaga will also have a grappling edge, that said Miocic can also knock him out.

If Gonzaga is a fav i'll definitely take Miocic, but if the odds are where I expect them to be (Miocic -210 or whatever) then I like Gonzaga at +190ish or so. Remember, everyone expected Miocic to knock Struve out standing easily, and we saw how that went. Gonzaga is actually similar to Struve somewhat (elite BJJ, questionable chin, decent standup, decent taketowns considering no wrestling base) but with more knockout power behind his punches. Gonzaga's probably better on top than Struve, but Struve is better from the bottom on the ground.

I'd cap this at more like Miocic -110 Gonzaga +110 but I expect the value will be on Gonzaga for his third fight in a row.

I hope Chris Holdsworth is bettable for the male TUF finale but I expect him to be -300 or whatever.

Blanco has been so unimpressive compared to his hype that I think his line vs Akira is accurate.

I think Yahya should be decent value, anyone know much about his opponent? He did fade vs Clopton but still won and has some decent wins and I don't think his opponent has any wins over anyone who is UFC caliber really, his best wins are Chase Beebe and Walel Watson

Granted Beebe has a win over Yahya but it was a long time ago and Yanya has beaten guys like Wineland, Hominick, Brown, Grispi and Hirota - all of his losses are to legit guys

Has anyone watched Niinimkii's fights?

Also, really hoping for a Pennington vs Pena finale on the women's side, could be a great fight. I hope they give Duke, Baszler and Modafferi fights on the finale as well, i'd imagine all of the ladies will get a chance though and on the mens side probably the four guys who didn't make the final and also didn't get kicked out of the house for missing weight will prob fight each other on the facebook prelims
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11-25-2013 , 10:57 PM
Struve may have a mediocre chin but there's a big diff between him and Gonzaga...he doesn't go out like Napao does. He gets his block knocked off but he recovers generally and tries to keep fighting.
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11-26-2013 , 05:38 AM
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mark hunt should be able to ko silva or at least decision him?
Silva's game plan will be to take Hunt down, which I have absolutely no doubt he will. And when Hunt is on his back, he usually gets finished. I hope Hunt wins though.
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11-26-2013 , 06:36 AM
Hunt's TDD has improved though. His submission defense has also been improved, remember Struve had him mounted 2 times and he defended very well and got back up(though shows that Hunt easily gets into bad positions on the ground...). But yeah, there's a big possibility of Big Foot landing a TD and just having really good top control to en route to a tko/submission. Still I give him a solid chance of KO'ing Big Foot in the first round.
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11-26-2013 , 03:53 PM
don't see value on either side. If bigfoot stands with hunt for more than 3min i see him getting cracked, however i think it takes Bigfoot less than 3min for him to finish hunt when on the ground.... Struve had hunt within seconds of a stoppage, and with a semi-decent fight Iq he would have won.

-155 for u1.5r seems like the bet to me.
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11-26-2013 , 04:10 PM
well, Hunt also defended submission attempts by Yoshida when they fought many years ago in Pride (before eventually getting caught) and Fedor (before eventually losing by Kimura). So it didn't surprise me too much that when on his back, Hunt was able to defend against a guy like Struve, who is clearly better of his back (or when he has peoples' backs) than on top (and Hunt's top game is pretty descent). Also, as you had said, Hunt finds himself in multiple bad positions on the ground throughout his fights (Gegard, Yoshida, Struve, Alistair, Barnett, Fedor).

Big Foot won't be so easy and has a huge advantage when on the ground (whether on top or on his back). I do agree though that Hunt has the best chance at finishing the fight if it remains standing but if somehow Big Foot survives a stand-up war and the fight heads into the 3rd or beyond, I'd give the conditioning advantage to Silva too (and Hunt can be knocked out - saw that by Manhoeff and JDS).

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