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11-17-2013 , 02:30 AM
Where can I find a working version of the post fight press conference? I've tried like 4 sites and can find a working playback
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11-17-2013 , 02:54 AM
DANA GAVE GEORGE THE THIRD ROUND AND THATS IT. UNREAL
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11-17-2013 , 02:56 AM
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I like this idea but could work in reverse. Fighter plays it super safe knowing they won the 1st two rounds

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They coast anyway. Sometimes both fighters coast thinking/hoping they'll get the decision.

I just think it's another stupid carryover from boxing.

Can you imagine a basketball or hockey team running out the clock and losing a close game, then later saying "wow, I thought we were ahead."

Last edited by anteatereater; 11-17-2013 at 03:04 AM.
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11-17-2013 , 04:15 AM
Or they coast because they are ***** tired and/or feel they don't have anything left in them to win the fight. Comparing fighting to basketball/hockey is silly in that way.
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11-17-2013 , 04:46 AM
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Or they coast because they are ***** tired and/or feel they don't have anything left in them to win the fight. Comparing fighting to basketball/hockey is silly in that way.
Alright, how about comparing it to wrestling? It's an individual sport that is timed (unlike tennis for example). In wrestling, the competitors and spectators know the score at all times. Does anyone think it would be better if the score was a mystery until the end?

I know wrestling isn't a popular spectator sport, but knowing the score the whole time makes it more WAY more interesting to watch.

I just think it's stupid to hide information from the competitors, because we are worried they sometimes won't compete the way we want them to. They deserve to know the effin score!

If it was common practice to have a scoreboard in boxing 100 years ago and it never changed, nobody would ever try to switch to the stupid system used today. It would seem just as dumb as doing it in basketball or wrestling seems now.

Fighters also deserve to know how much time is left in the round, and should have time clocks inside the cage (imo).

And why only 3 judges? Boxing BS again. 3 can't POSSIBLY be the optimal number!

Last edited by anteatereater; 11-17-2013 at 04:54 AM.
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11-17-2013 , 05:08 AM
lol "more judges", the judging talent pool is already super thin as it is, we don't need the adelaide byrds of the world presiding over even more fights than they already do.
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11-17-2013 , 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 21times20
lol "more judges", the judging talent pool is already super thin as it is, we don't need the adelaide byrds of the world presiding over even more fights than they already do.
then why not just use one judge?
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11-17-2013 , 05:12 AM
too easy to corrupt
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11-17-2013 , 05:13 AM
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too easy to corrupt
okay. checkmate.
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11-17-2013 , 05:16 AM
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I would say he wins 30% of the time it goes all 5 rounds.
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I'll lay you that price on a 'if fight goes to decision' prop taking GSP's side
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0.1u Hendrix via dec +1266

was only 0.1u, and was glad i didn't bet any real money... but for about 45sec i felt like a genius lol.
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11-17-2013 , 05:17 AM
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lol "more judges", the judging talent pool is already super thin as it is, we don't need the adelaide byrds of the world presiding over even more fights than they already do.
15 independent media scorers managed to score the gsp-hendricks fight identically, 48-47 Hendricks. Any time they strongly differ from what the actual judges decide, that bigger group is ALWAYS right (or seem to have been so far).

Adding more judges will dilute the influence of the Adelaide Byrds.

Sure. On tiny shows in small towns, it might be tough to round-up seven or nine non-******s. But for big shows, it shouldn't be that hard.

Last edited by anteatereater; 11-17-2013 at 05:25 AM.
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11-17-2013 , 05:26 AM
Also would like the idea of putting them in a room to watch everything were watching (with no sound). Don't get why they watch the fight live, i know they have a screen next to them or something, but they should really be watching where they can view 100% of what is happening.
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11-17-2013 , 08:10 AM
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Adding more judges will dilute the influence of the Adelaide Byrds.
just googled this character: seems like she sucks at judging boxing, so now they have her judge MMA too.

also, is there a history of animosity between Dana White and GSP, or was Dana's post-fight explosion at the judging genuine because he thought they did a terrible job?
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11-17-2013 , 08:16 AM
I'm not opposing having the score cards official during the fight.
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11-17-2013 , 08:24 AM
Not mad at myself at all for betting MacDonald. He would have won easily if he had done what he did in the last minute...pursue takedowns diligently and then, you know, actually land strikes on the ground. His lack of fight IQ ****ed him.

Also, FM 48-47 Hendricks

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11-17-2013 , 12:11 PM
1 - Best Cerrone we have seen yesterday.

2 - Koscheck has got to call it quits.

3 - Rory MacDonald should be embarrassed. He didn't fight his fight until the 3rd and by that time, it was far too late.

4 - Good to see Rashad finish someone again. Unfortunately we have to see Chael Sonnen fight again. Hopefully his fight against Wanderlei is his last (especially is he loses).

5 - Hendricks deserved the title.

The sound at the bar I was in sucked. Can anyone tell me what GSP said after the fight?
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11-17-2013 , 12:23 PM
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1 - Best Cerrone we have seen yesterday.

2 - Koscheck has got to call it quits.

3 - Rory MacDonald should be embarrassed. He didn't fight his fight until the 3rd and by that time, it was far too late.

4 - Good to see Rashad finish someone again. Unfortunately we have to see Chael Sonnen fight again. Hopefully his fight against Wanderlei is his last (especially is he loses).

5 - Hendricks deserved the title.

The sound at the bar I was in sucked. Can anyone tell me what GSP said after the fight?

1. agree

2. ya i kinda agree, was watching the dana white scrum and he said kos sent him a real long text that sounded like retirement, but white said he hopes not and thinks kos still has some left in the tank

3. ya kinda hard to build him up as the guy to take over for gsp with his last 2 fights win or lose

4. ya rashad lookd good and focused finally for a change, sonnen will def beat wandy, and then 100% needs to move back to 185, guys r jus to big for him at 205

5. agree

he jus mumbled somethn about needing to take off and hang up his gloves for a while, as he is dealing with a lot of personal problems, was really strange tho as he started to say it he stopd and rogan kinda pressed him to say wat he wantd to say.

jus listnd to the dana white scrum and he sounds extremely confident they will rematch with almost no delay as dana said gsp's personal probs are not that big of a deal and gsp is jus an emotional guy who wasnt thinking straight after getn beat up.

heres the scrum if ne1 wants to listn to it

http://mmajunkie.com/2013/11/17/vide...ntial-rematch/

whole thing is really strange
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11-17-2013 , 12:25 PM
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he jus mumbled somethn about needing to take off and hang up his gloves for a while, as he is dealing with a lot of personal problems, was really strange tho as he started to say it he stopd and rogan kinda pressed him to say wat he wantd to say.

jus listnd to the dana white scrum and he sounds extremely confident they will rematch with almost no delay as dana said gsp's personal probs are not that big of a deal and gsp is jus an emotional guy who wasnt thinking straight after getn beat up.

heres the scrum if ne1 wants to listn to it

http://mmajunkie.com/2013/11/17/vide...ntial-rematch/

whole thing is really strange
Cool. Thanks.
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11-17-2013 , 12:46 PM
man look at this pic of cerrone at weighins, and tell me how the **** he can cut anotehr 10 lbs to make 145..... absurd

http://mmajunkie.com/2013/11/17/ufc-...ht-dont-do-it/
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11-17-2013 , 12:48 PM
also thoughts on line for gsp vs hendricks 2? i think it opens around gsp -140 and closes close to even, while i personally believe hendricks shud b around -150 i jus cant see that happening with so much public money that will come in on gsp pretty much regardless of the line
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11-17-2013 , 01:21 PM
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man look at this pic of cerrone at weighins, and tell me how the **** he can cut anotehr 10 lbs to make 145..... absurd
Yeah, I don't understand Cerrone's logic behind cutting further weight.

I agree that the line will be pretty close though given Hendricks' performance but GSP is still likely to be the favorite.

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11-17-2013 , 01:30 PM
Robbery in my favour saved me from a total of a disaster of a card but I guess that's part of the advantage in betting champs over challengers in that closeish fights generally go in their favour
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11-17-2013 , 01:30 PM
think hendricks -150 around right. Gsp's best shot is to win a kickboxing fight vs hendricks, and every second they are standing he is in danger
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11-17-2013 , 01:56 PM
To be quite honest the best thing GSP can do is get Firas out of his corner. Firas is a good trainer and a good friend to Georges but as a cornerman he is complete garbage.

After the 1st round (that Hendrix clearly won) Firas was telling GSP how he did perfectly and to keep doing the same (which he did) and that is just wrong.

Going into the 5th in my opinion (and most people`s) GSP needed a stopage but his corner kept telling him how everything was Ok.

Georges is a good honest person and he held back saying how f`ed up that decision was. If any of you have ever seen his fight vs. Menjivar (that was stopped via a **** up by the ref and a language barrier issue) GSP actually tells the audience what really happened and that the win should not count on his record.

This was ridiculous.
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