lol and hierons last 2 fights were in the ufc after the askren loss so dana must not of felt hieron was all that bad

I totally agree.

Be careful though because I'm sure there will be people to show up with Askren's wrestling accomplishments to try to prove a point as to why you are crazy to think that GSP may win a wrestling exchange.

Perhaps. I think that if Askren can remain undefeated, Rebney may still continue to run his mouth and if Dana truely wants "to put on the fights people want to see", he'll have no choice but to sign Askren, especially if GSP decides to continue fighting.

Lol. Yup.

Will be upset if Askren's next fight isn't in the UFC. Would be excited to see him fight anyone in ufc top to right now. Also just checked out the top 10 WW according to ufc rankings How is Shields below Kampmann and Mia? Guy gets no love.

But they signed Lombard and kept him after he lost twice. I think Dana just doesn't want another Okami/Fitch type of fighter beating a bunch of his top 15 "exciting" fighters.

But Askren is actually a good talker. Way better than Shields for example. I think Askren would be a better draw than Jake Shields.

Oh well, it's their company. They can do what they want. But Dana is either a liar or a moron to give the reasons he gave for having zero interest in Askren.

Both a and b.

what happens if there's a tie?

what's your source for odds? are everyone using the same odds? who determines the source? or are you saying there's no odds and only picking winners, in which case why do you need a base bet size?

We set a time and went with the Pinnacle odds at that time

Probably too late to do a proper pool version for this card but if anyone's interested in the future it could be fun

We're using 1u to win x and x to win 1u on dogs/favs as a base, picking a side and over/under for each fight for the whole card. Interestingly enough we only liked the same side and over/under on 3 fights on the card I think

here's my proposal (anywhere from 200-500 is fine with me on any ufc card):

odds are determined by referencing bookmaker odds on bestfightodds at 12pm EST day before fight.

only sides are taken into account (since totals are not referenced and can be easily manipulated due to their low wager limit).

each entrant are given a set of 4 weighted picks (weight size: 1 unit/ 2 unit/ 3 unit/ 4unit)

they can and must only select 4 sides on the entire card corresponding to each individual weighted pick

entrant RISK the unit size on dogs, and WIN the unit size on favs

the winner is the entrant with the most resulting units

in the unlikely event of a tie (more unlikely due to weighting), submit total minutes the main event will take as tie-breaker

Basically, looks something like this

GSP -256 o4.5 -143
Sonnen +165 u2.5 +180
Rory -372 u2.5 -117
Kos +104 o2.5 -171
Bagautinov +136 o2.5 -189
Herman +181 u2.5 +140
Dunham +101 o2.5 -201
Ebersole +198 o2.5 -202
Perez -364 u1.5 +155
High -283 u1.5 +120
Donovan +290 u1.5 +115
Pettis -418 u2.5 -129

Whoever's up most (or down least) over the 24 bets scoops the pool. Obviously I don't think all 24 spots are profitable enough to actually bet, but for an overall $200 bet across 24 sweats it seemed like a bit of fun. I took a few more dogs than he did as it turned out and on 3 or 4 of the fights we ended up liking the same side/total, the rest we either differed on one or both.

we will screenshot the odds on pinnacle 2 days or so b4 the card to lock in lines theres more details and what not just gauging interest atm

i think the idea of the pool is to get sweats on every fight instead of just the 3-4 fights we normally bet on, not sure what u mean by lines being manipulated in this pool for o/u as the lines will be lockd in and the same for every1

i would b down to do something like this separate and/or headsup, if ur interested pm me ur skype info and we can work out details

ya good point on lombard but it seems ufc and bellator have been at each others throats a lot more now then they did when lombard came over to ufc, ever since the alvarez incident it seems the tension there is at an all time high, and i agree on askren being a bettr draw then shields for sure, and ya its really strange for him to say they have 0 interest now when he flat out said they were interested in him 3 months ago what changed??

why not just create a pool on sherdog or something? everyone picks every fight/how they win/what round. Sherdog does all the scoring for ya as well. Seem's like the easiest way to me, but i will probz be down for w/e on the next card.

Edit: pretty sure ufc.ca fantasy has the option to create a poll as well.

didnt know something like this was avail, ya that would b much better ill look into it for sure

These most are pretty solid bets IMO, on a few of them myself. Not sure about backing Rampage at this point though, and I actually was looking at the Freire under.

This would be laughable if it indeed went down as he says. Askren would tool 90% of the fighters in the UFC P4P.

Great point.

Jackson/Beltran goes distance -150...thoughts? Seems a bit low, Beltran is insanely tough and we all know how difficult it is to finish Jackson.

For Bellator tonight, 2u on Rampage/Beltran goes the distance -150.

And Hah, just saw Mo's post above mine after posting.....needless to say, I like the Page/Beltran line.

Beltran said on some podcast that he wasn't coming into this fight with a strategy like he will when it comes to the tournament. This fight is purely to entertain the fans.

If he believes that i can see him going to sleep.

Swoop I'll have a fun $100 bet w you, I'll take Hendricks + 2.0 takedowns?

I'm in for any kind of pick em/fantasy pool - I would prefer $100 because usually I don't know enough about the prelim fighters but if everyone else goes with $200 then that's fine with me.

Ship Freire under, pissed I didn't buy it at +140 or whatever it was earlier this week but +110 not too bad.

lol that was a steal at + money. Not sure what i was thinking betting the over =(

GSP looking smaller than usual at the weighins.....

Same here, would prefer a $100,

gsp looking like a guy thats going to get knocked out