I actually scored at least 1 rd of the Fitch Maia fight 10-8 and there was another that was really close. You brought up a great example because that was the last 10-8 round that I can remember scoring.

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haha its not gonna matter nobody is beating cain for a long time, his cardio is just in a league of its own, his standup is really good and extremely underrated. every1 talks about his "weak chin" which as seen tonite is a bunch of bs, he was hurt and didnt have his normal movement in jds 1 and got clipd behind ear, and was caught a few times in his first true ufc test vs congo. he took some real shots tonite and walkd rite thru them.

and man how do u call that wall and stall, was amazing clinchwork and constantly throwing strikes and was a great gameplan and its why jds will never beat him again

if this cain that showed up tonight shows up in future fights i dont think he loses for many years

I'm saying that just by using the criteria on the site Fitch Maia would have been 30-21

Maia totally dominated the grappling in every round so would be 10-7's by that criteria and they are just never given. I agree you are correct by what is written in the rule but it will effect your profits when betting if that is how you believe fights will be judged.

Nelson wasn't hurt in round 1 and therefore it's a 10-9, that is how the fights are judged in reality. Rightly or wrongly it's better to understand that when putting money down.

I don't know what people are talking about Cain JDS being that boring of a fight, it was a one-sided beating, and those fights aren't really deemed the greatest fights. Did Cain fight smart? Yes. Did he wall n stall? To a degree, but he was mixing it up with some really good knee's, punches, and he completely ****ed up JDS's face. He did try to finish JDS, but u could see that JDS still had lots of power in his hand and he was preserving himself for that one KO shot, so Cain had to be vary. Cain will finish most of the HW's, it's just that JDS has such a heart and chin, that it's really tough for Cain to TKO/KO him.

Cain is the best HW there has ever been, I would have loved to see Fedor prime time vs Cain bc that's the guy I think would have the biggest chance of beating Cain. His cardio is simply unmatched and no one will ever beat him in a unam decision, but I think Fedor's well roundness could have posed Cain some real trouble.

Yeah that wasn't boring at all IMO but what do I know, I actually enjoy MMA...

Cain gonna be -500 vs Werdum. And he will TKO him, that's a promise, etch it in stone.

I wasn't bored at all and liked the fight. JDS put on a defensive clinic in terms of TDD and head weaving and despite getting out punched ridic bad, still almost had cain a few times (first 30 sec, very end of round 2).

He may never be the same after that fight tho. The damage he took in that fight :/

it was a well above average card in terms of lack of boredom and yet people complained, I guess a lot only see the main event and only understand boxing really.

Ya I feel for JDS grandkids...they gonna have a hard time talkin to grandpa :/

JDS is in a dilemma, the reason Cain is beating him is because of his cardio and technique. Yeah, JDS can work on his cage side clinching game, and reverse cain maybe to push him up against the fence, but the problem is that it will probably take a lot of energy from JDS. It was really strange to see it, he wasn't trying to reverse the position or do anything, he was content standing pushed against the cage. It was like he was trying not to tire himself out so that he could have the KO power throughout all the rounds.
Baring a fluke KO, I don't see how any HW will ever match Cain's cardio.

Odds for Hendo are going to shorten really fast to like +160, but only a few books offer the line right now.
For +190 its an easy bet imo.

+10.03u on the night, +40.40u YTD

+1

JDS put together some decent strikes himself against the cage, friend observed that his best success was probably elbows in tight, he should have used more of them. Caught Cain multiple times with them.

I'm not so sure, if Hendo's chin hasn't faded yet, he actually has a pretty good skillset to match up with Belfort here. Far superior wrestling, and if he can actually eat Belfort's shots, Belfort should gas here.

43 yr old henderson going gas way before trt belfort mind you the fight is in brazil as well. belfort free money

You're crazy. Hendo is gonna own him in the clinch and honestly wouldn't be shocked if he lands a H-bomb and KO's Vitor

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The problem with JDS is that he is the only guy who is able to stay in the octagon with Cain for 5 rds. That causes serious brain damage.Cain wins pretty much all of his fights on the 1st round and I'll bet that is what is going to happen with Werdum too.


Cain vs JJ and Cain vs Gus are the fights I want to watch now. Gus and JJ are too big for LHW anyway.

Cain vs Jon Jones would be an intriguing, interesting fight. Yes Cain would be the favourite but he would be the favourite over any human being in the planet. I think Jones would pose the biggest problems for him.

Jones would crumble to Cain. There's a reason he ain't stepping up to HW. Likewise would Gustafsson, as much as I like him. The most dangerous fight for Cain is a fast striker with KO power. Jones is the type of fighter that enjoys taking his time with strikes, he's really good at the distance game, but vs Cain he would have none of that, Cain pretty much stalks from the get go and would just push Jones against the cage and **** up Jones face.

If I can get Vitor anywhere close to -160 i'll be all over him

Hendo just isn't the fighter he once was and Vitor is the best he's ever been now that he's on TRT - granted both guys are on TRT but it seems to be helping Vitor a lot more than Hendo, he's just aged better

I actually might even play Vitor ITD despite Hendo's legendary chin I think Vitor finishes him

And what about +130 on Pearson?

The thing about Hendo is that he might not want to take it to the ground (where he'll have an edge), but have fun and bang with Vitor instead. And so loose by decision like he did to Machida and Evans.

I like this new TRT Vito, he seems to be pacing himself really good. Though, I'm not sure about his heart if Hendo gets something going where as I think Hendo can take Vitors more often. Beside, Vitor loses to grinders like Couture a while back, right?

have no idea thought process on people on henderson. its vitor in brazil on trt who looks better every fight vs dan henderson who looks worse and slower every fight

Agree completely,

TRT Vitor is his best incarnation and the fact it's in Brazil means Hendo is also fighting the judges.

Hendo has been looking slower and has lost his last 2 (arguably 3 as Shogun was close) his last KO win was in 2011 he's capable of it but it's unlikely with Vitors speed and superior boxing.

Eh? Really? You think Hendo has a chance?

And Cain/JDS was very entertaining from my POV.

I think much more than 35%

Early leans at first glance...

Pearson +130
o2.5 in Machida -160
Jimmo +175
Miller -185? IDK if I can do it though, Miller is just the most infuriating person to bet on.

I think I like all of Mo's bets except I probably prefer Machida -350 to o2.5 -160 since Munoz just isn't going to win barring judges robbery and he has an iffy chin, Machida has finished better fighters with better chins than Munoz and if a flurry connects, Munoz will go down.

Machida decision is +250, in 3 rounds i'd love it but in 5 he probably finishes Munoz a lot

I think I like Pearson, Miller and especially Jimmo though. Miller i'm a bit wary of the price since he's a mental flake but he should win

Jimmo and Machida are probably the best bets on the card given that Machida has 5 rounds so can afford to start slow, although I think after the Davis decision he's learned his lesson and may be a bit more active/aggressive if there's any chance that the fight is 'close' after a couple rounds

I actually thought Jimmo would be a small fav, quite like him as a dog here

If this was outside of the UK i'd go big, as is I think i'll go small on him