Just watched their first fight...Pudz just wings wild bombs for a couple minutes, which McCorkle avoids by mostly clinching and trying for failed takedowns. Finally, McCorkle knocks him down with a jab (lol) and then easily locks up a kimura, which Pudz does nothing to resist. What am I missing here...

Yeah just saw that McCorkle line, it's already moved to -165, which still seems quite good considering.

Adding for the next UFC card:
0.5u Dong Hyun Kim by decision +330
0.25u Shields by decision +450

Pissed I missed the DHK decision +425 opener.

Finally watched Jones/Gus again and scored it 49-46. And no it wasn't because one judge scored it 49-46 so I tried to score it like that as well, without the adrenaline and being able to see it clearly the fight wasn't even half as close as I thought it was.

Can't really go by compubox, since it's really an effective way to score a fight... esp going by jabs. Floyd had some off rounds where it looked like he was taking a break, backpedalling, etc. He prob lost 11-12, or at the very worst were flips, and there were 2 or so more close rounds in there in the first half. 10-2/9-3 are prob the most reasonable scores, 12-0 and 6-6 are not.

Even if you only look at the power punch stats, PBF was even or better in all but 3 rounds, and like it or not jabs count for points. In my scorecard (for whatever that's worth lol) you have to hit someone to win in a boxing match, and Canelo simply couldn't do that. Doesn't matter if it "looks like" Floyd is backpedaling, if he is landing way more punches (and he was), then he is winning the rounds.

If you scored more than 3 rounds for Canelo then you simply aren't doing it right, and Ebut said he had it 115-113 or whatever, which where the original discussion stemmed.

First, compubox is not entirely accurate in how they count their punches. Second, everything that is a non jab is counted as a power punch; Mayweather does not throw with the same power as Canelo. Rounds can be won or lost on things such as not taking a punch well, resounding punches, backpedaling, being against the ropes, excessive holding etc. depending on judges whims. Example, as wacky as the scores were (well not that wacky except for Ross who's had more bad split decisions than any single judge) there was some consensus on the rounds given to Canelo.

Not to mention Duane Ford's ******ed criteria of if rounds are close give it one each, or not giving more than 3 straight close-ish rounds to the same fighter among other bs that he seems to have implanted on fellow judges of the Nevada AC.

Well I mean obv everything you listed here is not judging criteria.

And if the Compubox numbers match up with what your eyes tell you, hard to argue.

Biggest selling PPV of the year? Poster looks good, can't wait - Weidman/Silva 2 is a fight either guy could totally dominate or we could have a Gus/Jones level classic and after the TUF season i'll be very excited for Rousey/Tate 2 even though Rousey will probably armbar her pretty early

Barnett/Browne will be interesting, the winner should be next in line after Werdum or at least earn a number 1 contender fight

Tibau/Johnson might have some betting value on Tibau after Johnson beat Lauzon, I love Tibau to -160 here at least

Leben/Hall should lead to someone getting knocked out spectacularly even if Leben is washed up and Hall is overrated

Poirier/Brandao has FOTN potential on any card and the winner is probably only 2 fights from a title shot

Siver/Gamburyan could be another great betting spot for Siver since he lost his last fight and Manny won, Manny has the better chin but Siver should light him up standing probably.

Overall i'm more excited for this card than any other this year probably

I recall having at least 4 rounds (1st and 2nd and then some later ones) to Canelo, so it might have been 116-112 but I get the point is that obviously my scoring criteria isn't correct. I always get very similar scores to the judges (still not brilliant I know) but I'll have to see in the future.

And obviously my scorecard isn't worth anything either but as a fan I see that as part of the experience of watching a fight and can make for interesting discussions (like this for example).

Who you got people ? I still like Silva again, everyone's opinion was that if Weidman can take him down then Weidman wins. Weidman took him down, Anderson escaped and then took his "game plan" a bit too far. Weidman didn't exactly look good standing up. Silva defended what you lot all said would be his downfall and it just ended up him losing it more than Weidman winning it.

Anderson escaped? I guess thats one way of looking at it. Weidman attempted a leglock and anderson stood up.

Not surprisingly Jones didn't want to give Gus an immediate rematch and the next challenger will be Glover Teixeira.

I am guessing Gus will take on Davis next with the winner taking on Jones after he dismantles Teixeira.

Gus fought Davis as a rookie and lost, but they're friends and training partners now so I doubt they'd fight unless it was for the title.

Gus will fight Evans/Sonnen winner probably since he's closer to another shot than Davis is since everyone knows Davis lost to Machida. Davis can fight Thiago Silva after he beats Matt Hamill to stay warm or maybe Mousasi if he wants the fight. I'd say Thiago Silva since it keeps Davis alive as a contender after Jones beats Glover and the Gus rematch. If Evans beats Chael and Gus he's probably earned another shot at Rashad and if Chael wins and wants to stay at LHW he can fight Davis while Gus takes a keep busy fight vs Lil'Nog or whoever and then fights Jones again

And I guess if Jimi Manuwa can beat Jimmo next month, he might get fed to somebody.

He'd be 14-0.

Also, Cormier might move down to 205 if Brown Pride beats JDS again.

It would be awesome to see Mousasi vs. Gustafsson finally. The sherdoggers seemed to think Mousasi was going to style on Gus, i wonder if they still feel the same.
Gus vs. Cormier would be horrible. Those two are the only logical challenges for Jones. Eliminating one is dumb.

Dana made it pretty obvious in the recent scrum that he was favouring not doing an immediate rematch, citing their young ages as a key reason.

I'd give my left nut for cageside seats to UFC168. Most exciting card ever ainec.

Also Jon Jones said he wanted Glover instead of Alex according to Dana.

Gus would crush Mousasi, if he gets in trouble standing somehow he can just take him down and win

Mousasi should focus on 185, he can make the weight and would be far more dominant there.

I can't wait to see Machida/Kennedy - with the importance of size/weight cutting these days it'll be interesting to see Machida being a bigger guy for the weight class instead of the small LHW he used to be. I can definitely see him winning the title if Weidman retains against Anderson given he has the striking, movement and most importantly the TDD that Anderson lacks. That said I feel like Silva will knock Weidman out this time *if* his heart is still in it and he still wants to be champ. Machida won't fight Anderson and will probably just take money/showcase fights until Anderson retires if he wins the title back, he could have a money match with Sonnen at MW regardless of whether Sonnen wins or loses to Evans, would love to see Machida vs Belfort at MW too, that would be an epic fight since Belfort is an aggressive striker and Machida is a counterstriker.

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Future Events: Glover Teixeira (+425) vs. Jon Jones (-600)

Like jones slightly at that price.

Teixeira has no chance.

For Bellator, I kind of like Tirloni -220. Also, always tempting to fade Joe Warren.

Anyone have a Milly I can put down on Jones? Glover had issues with Baders stand up, Jones will murder him.

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