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05-21-2013 , 07:02 PM
Maxed Silva wins by KO/TKO at +825
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05-21-2013 , 07:53 PM
Wtf, just heard rashad/hendo is going to take over the main event slot... And it is staying a 3 round fight.

I don't get it??? Neither of them are getting a title shot after this fight, both coming off of bad fights, and a loss. Yet are going to main event a ppv. Also why is it not 5 rounds?? Both have been in 5 rounders before, most likely atleast one of them will fight for a title again some day, and it is most likely going to be a pretty close fight after 3 rounds (unless rashad goes to sleep).. Just change it to 5 rounds.... Peopleare paying $60 for this ffs..
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05-21-2013 , 07:58 PM
Weren't they always main eventing?
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05-21-2013 , 08:10 PM
No, was supposed to be barao/wineland fir interim belt.
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05-21-2013 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by yoyobo
Wtf, just heard rashad/hendo is going to take over the main event slot... And it is staying a 3 round fight.

I don't get it??? Neither of them are getting a title shot after this fight, both coming off of bad fights, and a loss. Yet are going to main event a ppv. Also why is it not 5 rounds?? Both have been in 5 rounders before,
They're too far into their camps to make the switch to a 5 round fight. It's only 3 weeks out with one of those weeks being the media week. Basically a 5 round fight we would have 3 normal rounds and then 2 rounds of zombies embarrassing the sport.
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05-21-2013 , 08:17 PM
Oh right my bad. Was looking at fightodds and they've removed that 1 obv. Meh do u rly want a 5 rounder? Would prolly end up being either a rly boring lnp and/or both of them just stalking each other/being gassed. Would suit me cause I've got money on Shad but I think a 3 rounder between the 2 would be much more entertaining.
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05-21-2013 , 09:15 PM
i guess that makes sense, wasn't thinking of their camps..i just think that tis is going to be a really close fight (close like, shad/nog, hendo/machida) and 2 more rounds would separate it a bit. also it is a main event, and on a ppv card.

i dislike the fact that this is the mainevent even worst though, even though once again.. i don't better idea, unless you can get Uriah on short notice.

guess the bright side is sheilds/woodly make the maincard, and vallie-flagg/stout make prelims main (which should be a good fight)
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05-21-2013 , 09:53 PM
Adding some on JDS ITD +114 and JDS by tko +160.

Probably won't have much on this card, I think my 3u on Nurma/Trujillo under 2.5r will end up being my biggest play.
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05-21-2013 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by elliot10181
What do you guys think of this bet?

Cain by decision +720,

It's not likely but silva can be durable, I think I prefer this as an outside bet as compared with betting on hunt or silva (at much worse odds)
I'm gonna go against the grain, I actually like this. We've all seen plenty of these "certain finish" heavyweight fights go longer than expected, recent example that comes to mind is Struve/Hunt. And if it goes the distance Cain is a very likely winner.

I'm not even close to buying the hype on Nurmagomev. Don't understand why everyone is all over his ballsack ITT. His last two fights he windmilled his way to a gift decision that many scored 30-27 for his opponent (I honestly couldnt be bother to score it, terrible fight) and knocked out a very chinny fighter with a punch that's tied with Woodley/Hieron for worst KO punch I've seen in the last year or so. Nurm's striking is really bad IMO. Trujillo doesn't seem like much more than a roided out muscle tank but I just don't see why people think Nurm is going to roll over him and are just down to lay -250 when there's a decent chance he is going to have to do a lot of boxing (Trujillo blocked almost all of the takedowns he faced from a good amateur wrestler in his last fight).
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05-21-2013 , 10:56 PM
5u Cain Velasquez -603
5u Junior Dos Santos -340
1u Glover Teixeira -271
2u Donald Cerrone -283
2u Rick Story -144
3u Khabib Nurmagomedov -261
1u Brian Bowles -260

Plus a parlay on Cain/JDS/Cerrone/Story/Nurmagomedov

I'm thinking under valued favorites.......which definitely means the underdogs will hit
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05-21-2013 , 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by traz
5u Cain Velasquez -603
5u Junior Dos Santos -340
1u Glover Teixeira -271
2u Donald Cerrone -283
2u Rick Story -144
3u Khabib Nurmagomedov -261
1u Brian Bowles -260

Plus a parlay on Cain/JDS/Cerrone/Story/Nurmagomedov

I'm thinking under valued favorites.......which definitely means the underdogs will hit
lol god you would be in such a world of hurt
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05-21-2013 , 11:25 PM
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I think the best bet for this upcoming ufc is Maynard.

Cain is a lock but he's at ~-700. JDS is a pretty good bet but Mark has a puncher's chance.

I think Maynard should be a bigger fav than he currently is.
Im betting Tj Grant in this fight. Hes looked great last couple fights. Think Tj´s standup is far better then Maynard only question is if Maynard can take him dowm. + Tj has been fighting consistently while Maynard´s been out for a pretty long time now and hes last fight vs Guida wasnt even a fight. Def think odds should be more even in this fight.
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05-21-2013 , 11:35 PM
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I'm gonna go against the grain, I actually like this. We've all seen plenty of these "certain finish" heavyweight fights go longer than expected, recent example that comes to mind is Struve/Hunt. And if it goes the distance Cain is a very likely winner.

I'm not even close to buying the hype on Nurmagomev. Don't understand why everyone is all over his ballsack ITT. His last two fights he windmilled his way to a gift decision that many scored 30-27 for his opponent (I honestly couldnt be bother to score it, terrible fight) and knocked out a very chinny fighter with a punch that's tied with Woodley/Hieron for worst KO punch I've seen in the last year or so. Nurm's striking is really bad IMO. Trujillo doesn't seem like much more than a roided out muscle tank but I just don't see why people think Nurm is going to roll over him and are just down to lay -250 when there's a decent chance he is going to have to do a lot of boxing (Trujillo blocked almost all of the takedowns he faced from a good amateur wrestler in his last fight).
I dont buy the hype either. Trujillo looked great in his last fight. Think he could win this one.
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05-22-2013 , 12:30 AM
His last fight was against Marcus Levesseur

The same Marcus Levesseur whose last 3 fights were a split decision with Prater, a loss to Trujillo obv and getting choked out by Cody McKenzie. He also got choked out by Dakota Cochrane not that long ago. Levesseur is not a UFC level fighter and Trujillo has 0 wins over UFC level fighters.

Nurmagomedov went to Brazil and knocked out a mid level Brazilian. Sure, he may not be ready for a title shot but i've bought into his hype and I don't see him losing here. I don't think Trujillo has more than a puncher's chance.
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05-22-2013 , 02:11 AM
Added 1.5u Holloway at +228, 2u Thompson at -151, 2u Whittaker at +185 and 0.5u Roop at +231, expect to go 2/4 there most of the time which would work out fine considering 3 dogs

Nurmagomedov makes or breaks my card still though unless I add more, plus I have Cain + JDS to complete a to win 3.4u parlay
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05-22-2013 , 03:35 AM
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His last fight was against Marcus Levesseur

The same Marcus Levesseur whose last 3 fights were a split decision with Prater, a loss to Trujillo obv and getting choked out by Cody McKenzie. He also got choked out by Dakota Cochrane not that long ago. Levesseur is not a UFC level fighter and Trujillo has 0 wins over UFC level fighters.

Nurmagomedov went to Brazil and knocked out a mid level Brazilian. Sure, he may not be ready for a title shot but i've bought into his hype and I don't see him losing here. I don't think Trujillo has more than a puncher's chance.
Nurmagomedov has one legitimate win over a UFC fighter. So he should be -300 over a guy who has 0?

I think his striking sucks and he's going to be exposed when he faces a real opponent. Trujillo probably isn't the guy to do that but no way am I laying that kinda price on this guy.
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05-22-2013 , 04:04 AM
It's also not just wins vs UFC caliber fighters. Nurmagomedov is 19-0 with 4 wins being vs guys who are UFC level or close, Trujillo is 10-4 with one win and none of the losses being against guys who are UFC level or close. Trujillo is 9-4 vs cans and 1-0 vs somewhat legit competition, Nurmagomedov is 15-0 vs cans and 4-0 vs somewhat legit competition. To me, that says Trujillo really, really sucks which i'm factoring into my bet just as much as Nurmagomedov being good.

It's not like Thiago Tavares totally sucks either and Nurmagomedov made him look bad in Brazil, he's a mid level LW with wins over Stout, Fisher, Gamburyan and Omigawa and a draw against Lentz. He's 7-5-1 in the UFC that isn't exactly a bad record.

It's not like having a close fight with Tibau is a bad thing either, Tibau beat Dos Anjos and Trinaldo who are both relevant in the current state of the division and he has a 13-7 record in the UFC.

It's not like Shalorus is a total can either, he would have beaten Varner if not for a point deduction, beat Bartimus and Jansen who just won the Bellator tourney and his other 2 losses were to top 10-ish guys in Dos Anjos and Miller.

I'm going to stand by my -500 assessment (in that i'd rather be on Khabib at -400 than on Trujillo at +400 if I had to pick a side at that price), we'll know after the fight I guess whether I was right or wrong in that it's either a one sided beatdown or it isn't.
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05-22-2013 , 04:14 AM
put down a little bit on cerrone by decision at +157
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05-22-2013 , 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SwoopAE
It's also not just wins vs UFC caliber fighters. Nurmagomedov is 19-0 with 4 wins being vs guys who are UFC level or close, Trujillo is 10-4 with one win and none of the losses being against guys who are UFC level or close. Trujillo is 9-4 vs cans and 1-0 vs somewhat legit competition, Nurmagomedov is 15-0 vs cans and 4-0 vs somewhat legit competition. To me, that says Trujillo really, really sucks which i'm factoring into my bet just as much as Nurmagomedov being good.

It's not like Thiago Tavares totally sucks either and Nurmagomedov made him look bad in Brazil, he's a mid level LW with wins over Stout, Fisher, Gamburyan and Omigawa and a draw against Lentz. He's 7-5-1 in the UFC that isn't exactly a bad record.

It's not like having a close fight with Tibau is a bad thing either, Tibau beat Dos Anjos and Trinaldo who are both relevant in the current state of the division and he has a 13-7 record in the UFC.

It's not like Shalorus is a total can either, he would have beaten Varner if not for a point deduction, beat Bartimus and Jansen who just won the Bellator tourney and his other 2 losses were to top 10-ish guys in Dos Anjos and Miller.

I'm going to stand by my -500 assessment (in that i'd rather be on Khabib at -400 than on Trujillo at +400 if I had to pick a side at that price), we'll know after the fight I guess whether I was right or wrong in that it's either a one sided beatdown or it isn't.
Let's be honest he got the worst version of Tavares yet, that guy's chin has declined to alarming levels. Also, the judging was atrocious in that Varner/Shalorus fight, Varner clearly deserved that. Tibau fight, yeah he's a very respectable opponent but both guys looked absolutely awful and again, most had it a sweep for Tibau.

As for Trujillo, his record might not be very good but let's be honest, he looks like he's juiced to the gills, and maybe he was clean for those losses or something. Sonnen showed us that roids can make up for a pretty big skill deficit.

I don't think Nurmagomedov sucks or anything even if his striking is really, really sloppy. He at least has some power and can grapple but I don't see him ever being anything more than an average level fighter, and I have no clue how anyone could be high on him based on what he's shown. The only fight he really showcased anything was when he styled on Shalorus. Ya the elbows he finished Tavares with were sweet but that was basically a one punch KO and it was an awful, awful punch.
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05-22-2013 , 08:56 AM
Breaking news - Josh Barnett returning to UFC! Has signed a multi fight deal.

And Roy vs Stipe Miocic added to main card of 161.
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05-22-2013 , 10:00 AM
Hopefully this gives Palelei a softer entry to the UFC, would like to see him get off to a good start and Miocic was a pretty tough test
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05-22-2013 , 11:10 AM
Great news on Barnett in UFC

I've always wanted to see Mir vs Barnett, although they're a little less relevant now I think it could be a great fight
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05-22-2013 , 11:26 AM
would probably be a very bad kickboxing match.
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05-22-2013 , 11:52 AM
Thoughts on Nurmagomedov -v- Tibau

Boring fight. Borderline horrible. Any break down has to start there.

Neither man landed anything of significance. Both men failed on every TD attempt. Both men gassed pretty badly. I understand claiming that Nurmagomedov didn't win. I question how Tibau DID though...?

Much of the fight took place against the cage, with Tibau being pressed there. If you are looking for a reason to give rounds to either man, wouldn't that be one? Neither man landed a lot, but Nurm threw more in each round, be that strikes or TD attempts.

Most important, Khabib can't help but have improved a ton since then given his age and the fact that he's been with AKA now. Even if that version of Nurmagomedov shows up, isn't a guy on equal footing with Tibau the kind of guy that should have no trouble with Trujillo?

Personally hammering that one.
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05-22-2013 , 12:08 PM
That was my logic, I expect him to be better than he was vs Tibau and i'd bet Tibau at -250ish or whatever against Trujillo too probably so it seems fine especially given Nurmagomedov looked decent against Tavares and is young/improving.
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