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01-26-2013 , 06:14 AM
I dont hate Rampage at that price either tbh, if he can avoid getting rocked early, he could easily take a decision or hurt Teixeira and capitalise even if not to finish him then to gas him
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01-26-2013 , 07:44 AM
Just found a great value bet

Cerrone +1200 via tko/ko on sky bet put 0.25U on it may go up to 0.5U ltr

They have Cerrone at +600 via sub (which is far less likely)

I think he would stop Pettis 1-5 fights
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01-26-2013 , 07:51 AM
not saying who to bet on but at this stage isn't rampage just showing up for a pay check? I'm not sure if mma even makes the top 10 of things that are important to him any more
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01-26-2013 , 09:27 AM
just did a single parlay thus far, and still waiting on some props to come out at Bovada (which take forever) ... still a little gun shy after getting caught with JDS/Cain... If there is decent money on Rampage/Teixera going the distance, I may put down on that too...

2u@ Mighty Mouse + Guida + Russow

*** thoughts on Teixera/Rampage GTD (+120)***

Last edited by WSPreadHead; 01-26-2013 at 09:39 AM.
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01-26-2013 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by grumpy64
not saying who to bet on but at this stage isn't rampage just showing up for a pay check? I'm not sure if mma even makes the top 10 of things that are important to him any more
This tbf. I also thought he looked bad at the weigh-ins - yes, he made weight but leaning on Burt Watson's shoulder and Burt celebrating when he made weight suggests a rough cut.

The info that Dolce shared was also an insight into where Rampage is pre-camp. The bravado talk about standing with Glover or that he will try and take me down etc etc to me, indicates that he has minimal gas tank and doesn't want to get blown up grappling.


To the people thinking of betting Vlad - really? A tough journeyman who I have a ton of respect for but Bader is a legit top 15 fighter who will beat most of the low / mid level guys. You can point to the flash finish from Tito and that Rampage was injured etc but Bader has also beaten Little Nog with good gameplanning and working his wrestling. I don't see any value in Vlad.
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01-26-2013 , 10:02 AM
Rampage will beat Glover more often than Vlad will beat Bader imo
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01-26-2013 , 10:04 AM
thoughts on Rampage/Teixera o2.5 (+120)?...
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01-26-2013 , 11:02 AM
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not saying who to bet on but at this stage isn't rampage just showing up for a pay check? I'm not sure if mma even makes the top 10 of things that are important to him any more
Well he's not really lined up for anything special other than MMA it would seem, also he's gone away to england to train which should say something and he did take Glover on, a guy a lot of people ducked, he could have as well ducked Glover, take on a less dangerous guy, end on a good note and get more money on his trip outside the UFC having the leverage that he left the UFC with a win against a monster in Glover, whereas if he losses, he's not going to have that extra leverage when negotiating money for other promotions. Rampage doesn't seem to be the guy that just shows up for a paycheck, yeah he's been lazy sometimes, taken fights with injuries etc, unmotivated, but u can count those fights on one hand, Bader, Forrest.

I think he's going to come in here well trained, well conditioned because he has something to prove and probably functions like that, he is fueled by being an underdog so I expect Rampage in one of his best shapes. He also said in the weigh ins that he's the best shape ever, I think if he wasn't in shape and was just coming for the paycheck, he wouldn't have said anything or something along the lines, I'm gona knock you out.
Now, he came in the same in the Jon Jones fight, but Jones is the better striker and more diversified so he lost simply because he was outskilled and when you're outskilled, it doesn't matter if u come in well prepared.
And this might be the same case as the Jones, Rashad fight, where he will simply get out MMA'ed by Glover, who will mix it up a lot more and I think Glover has a better recovery rate than Rampage, I'd say it's like ~30% rampage wins a stand and bang vs Glovers ~70%.
WHat will be interesting is if Rampage has flawless TDD and starts getting the better of Glover in the standup.
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01-26-2013 , 04:01 PM
Anyone here use the winning poker network (true poker, BCP, ect...) sportsbook? I was thinking about it but I'm not sure.

Thoughts on this guys picks?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15D3T...CRPug&index=16
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01-26-2013 , 04:05 PM
For me, it's not to bet on Rampage "showing up", i know he won't. But even when he's diminished he can fight like he did vs. Machida and that can take you quite far.

Teixeira is not a proven worldbeater. He looks good, but got clipped bad vs. Maldonado. Rampage could easily do the same.

At even odds i would bet Teixeira all day.
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01-26-2013 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by timfbmx
Anyone here use the winning poker network (true poker, BCP, ect...) sportsbook? I was thinking about it but I'm not sure.

Thoughts on this guys picks?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15D3T...CRPug&index=16
Remember watching some predictions from that guy earlier, surprised me how bad he predicted and talked about his picks.
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01-26-2013 , 05:01 PM
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thoughts on Rampage/Teixera o2.5 (+120)?...
I'd avoid it for that price. I doubt Rampage could eat the kinda punches Fabio did and Glover looked a bit suspect against Fabio too. Prolly gonna be a stand up game for the most part.
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01-26-2013 , 05:05 PM
Rampages chin is quite good and his boxing defense is much better than Maldonados.

I think this goes to a decision a bunch of times when Teixeira wins.
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01-26-2013 , 05:40 PM
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Rampages chin is quite good and his boxing defense is much better than Maldonados.

I think this goes to a decision a bunch of times when Teixeira wins.
That's how I see it to. In 5 rounds one might get so tired that the other can grind a TKO but in 3 rounds I think it's a decision and likely for Teixeira.
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01-26-2013 , 05:50 PM
1u Demetrious Johnson -212
1u Erik Koch -138
1u Clay Guida -237
0.5u Donald Cerrone +127
1u Johnson/Dodson o4.5 rounds -252
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01-26-2013 , 07:10 PM
ye vlad is done
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01-26-2013 , 07:10 PM
Well Vlad is definitely shot.
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01-26-2013 , 07:14 PM
His reflexes are ***** unbelievable bad, Bader isn't that fast, pretty much the first punch Bader throws, a ***** leaping left hook.
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01-26-2013 , 07:15 PM
Alex Gustafsson knocked him down with a jab. so.
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01-26-2013 , 07:25 PM
3.5u Texeira to win 1.28u (****** -275)

Glover is going to show why so many top 10s are dodging him. Rampage is showing up for a paycheck, Glover is showing up for a war.
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01-26-2013 , 08:08 PM
10-9 Hioki imo.
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01-26-2013 , 08:15 PM
Meh 10-9 Guida, Guida is such a boring fighter, moves around more than he punches and when he gets into guard, he just stays there, doin no dmg and just moves around a lot, but in reality he's just stalling.
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01-26-2013 , 08:21 PM
Certainly hope judges see it the right, yeah Guida controlled, but he didn't do any damage, didn't attermpt any submission or anything, just stalled whereas Hioki threatened with submissions and got the better of the standup.
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01-26-2013 , 08:21 PM
I was just thinking the same. Havn't seen many of his fights but that's exactly what he does. Even his punches barely deal any damage.

Doubt they're gonna give Hioki the win. Entire crowd's behind Guida too.

30-27 1 judge. Rly...lol
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01-26-2013 , 08:22 PM
only saw the last 2 rounds but i assume guida 29-28 via lnp?

just tuning in, saw the results im sure ill get to see the bader ko later should have bet it but didnt

added 0.2u on wiman dodson jackson, underdog sweats, pettis is still the only major bet of the card and i got him at close to evens so thats promising

gl all
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