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07-12-2020 , 03:49 AM
made over 12k am truly on cloud9 right now

what a good ****in day went 5/5 on main card, by far biggest winning day ever. hit 9 4-team parlays lol.
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07-12-2020 , 06:16 AM
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made over 12k am truly on cloud9 right now

what a good ****in day went 5/5 on main card, by far biggest winning day ever. hit 9 4-team parlays lol.
Well done, what strat did you use? Particular good podcasts or anything.
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07-12-2020 , 12:03 PM
andrade fought the absolute worst fight imaginable and still came somewhat close to winning (she def lost). she needs to fire her entire coaching staff immediately. was so frsutrating to watch that fight cause its so winnable for her if she fought the same way as the first time. whoever told her she was gonna have to stand at range and be slick has 0 mind for the game. another small win, usman obv free money. thats exactly how the burns fight was gonna go fwiw. rose is absolutely one of the most overrated fighters and anyone who comes after her hard will beat her in a five rounder. i see her having no shot vs. weili. it's funny how JJ is just the perfect matchup for her to look good and catapult her to stardom while having massive glaring holes in her game.


kattar looks like the bet to me mid-week in the main. not sure ige is really built to go 5 if it even goes that far.

rivera is probably a nice one too.

i'd have to rewatch but i thought volk won 3-4-5.

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07-12-2020 , 12:49 PM
So many cool moments to take from UFC 251,

Usman foot stomping like he knew Balla had his testicles on the mat and doing that was hurting him as much or more than Gamebread,

Now we have foot stomps?

Paige wet willying her bf in practise

The honest answer to Volkanovski that the next car was actually more scary

Diana white looking buff ripped and able to stand in for any fighter if they drop out, reason he is working out like that is that the next time Tyson tells him to move out of the plane chair he will be like, Actually Tyson not today, today its Diana day, go sit over there.

Rose getting dotted on pre-fight by Megan (I look lovely in any thing and any colour olivi) and Charlize Theron.

All the fighters getting out of the cage in one piece.

Moment that stopped me in my tracks was during Rose fight when she was sitting heading into the 3rd and her team picked up a slight questioning from her, just ever so slight, but bang they were on it... you ran 800 miles for this.
That was a huge reality check on how much these people give to the sport.

We can sit there with our wagers and miss the beauty of the sport and in this instance the over the top work performed by so many,

I lost my bet but gained a sports event to remember for life.

Usman here is your Gold Star, you deserve it.



abu dhabi


* There was a mic cut out during production (Anik+Bisping) which took too long to reset.



snorkeling snorkeling snorkeling



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07-12-2020 , 12:52 PM
also don't know the russian/swedish newcomer, but betting against john phillips always seems like a good idea.

i watched his last fight, he got a takedown early and won with ground and pound, immediately made a max bet on him.
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07-12-2020 , 01:11 PM
I did pretty good last night up about 4 units. Hit the new Czech sensation to win ITD at +300 but most profits coming from Yan winning via TKO in round 5 at near +2000. As the poster AC Slater mentioned when a guy is turtled and is using the back of their head as a shield it should let the ref know the guy is done. Aldo and all fighters deserve better then what he got.

Refs should look at what's the likely scorecard. If it's 3-1 Yan after 4 rounds it's obvious Aldo needs a finish and it's even more obvious that that outcome isn't going to happen. Fight went on a minute too long imo and Aldo ate about 40 extra shots then he needed to.
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07-12-2020 , 01:37 PM
On the Fence question I see it or get it in a strange way, people would not often say it this way but in regards to fence grabs, It's the evident "break of flow" that is important to keep in. Does any one want the break of flow. No, no body does, but its like a signal or a early warning sign important to be there because foe 1, ref, foe 2, all know the cage is not to be touched and it being touched gives information cues to every one in the cage,

its like an increment step, not a call for help but its a wrong action and a brake from what every one is doing in there, FLOW..

If you are caught, forced or find yourself holding onto the cage, it can help further into the fight for the ref to decide further actions.

Also if the cage was to be made that the fighter absolutely could not hold on or release some pressure, its an emergency handle to some extent,

its enough they are in there full arsenal of weaponry, here you give that increment that half step possible.

Fighters know not to hold on to the cage, if it happens the ref has a guide stick and information asset the fight is not progressing as it should do from X, Y and he can monitor

like example if Aldo had held to the cage, then fell or moved to the back of the head position than it could in a points way help him (ref) if only personally, justify calling the fight finished a touch early.

Aldo is an ambassador of MMA, he see's things very brutally but ideally he can stop fighting cut the crystal light reflection of hard life, soften, get fat and teach MMA in Brazil till he is 110 even with a big pot belly.

He would make an Amazing trainer abu dhabi if only for a few months a year?
Hard guy, the twinkle in his eye hard from focusing violence so long, time to move that training others and soften up a little.

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07-12-2020 , 02:33 PM
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Well done, what strat did you use? Particular good podcasts or anything.
mostly trying to follow the best lines and going with proven favorites(usually). honestly i enjoy mma A LOT and rather just bet for fun, even if its not the "correct" way to bet, **** doing this pro. one of the things i always do is look extensively at old fights within 2 years of the fighter im picking, i use ufc fight pass lol. i just do my lowish stakes and keep it as one of the few things that always will appeal to me. i did risk over 1k on this but its quite rare, that why its my biggest win

anyway ive seen pretty much every ufc card and many other orgs for past 15 yrs so i got a lot of experience having watched thousands of fights. but yea sry im still fairly new at actual serious betting and have not much guidance besides forums.

still feeling so good today lol

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07-12-2020 , 06:59 PM
MasVidal was defiantly not fully there, it was evident straightaway in the first.
He threw that wicked body kick, once lands, twice lands, landed it a third time.. then a break or some distance... what do you then not step in and do.. again. Yep he loaded up the same kick, snap caught and masvidal taken down.

Should be muscle memory to not throw same offensive 4th time in row, what are you trying to do, at least faint change it to a head kick or full front kick.

20lb drop like that affects obviously. Also not one uppercut which Colby found homes for all day even after those huge telegraph misses.

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07-13-2020 , 12:40 AM
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Zhumagulov prob wins a split here a lot? Idk
I felt like ZZ got robbed. :d

Any early leans this Ige katar card? Is Ige live dog 🐕? I'm looking at Ige and Stadman is there anything interest on this card it seems kinda dry.
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07-13-2020 , 01:43 PM
Thoughts on Whitaker/Till? Whitaker down to -115 at Pinny seems low
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07-13-2020 , 01:51 PM
Till only has that left...










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07-13-2020 , 03:21 PM
Lima had trouble staying on his feet in the first Rory fight, can't see him being able to do so against Usman. I'd make Usman like -275
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07-14-2020 , 07:10 AM
Depends on where Whittaker is at mentally but at his best hes a big fav over Till imo
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07-14-2020 , 07:49 AM
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Lima had trouble staying on his feet in the first Rory fight, can't see him being able to do so against Usman. I'd make Usman like -275
Be a mirror of the Masvidal fight. Lima has bigger one shot power but Masvidal is more dynamic.

Trying to find something for tomorrow's card, quite like Lerone Murphy if I can get around 2.5.

Ige by decision at 7.5 seems like it would be value on first look.

Not a card where anything really stands out.
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07-14-2020 , 08:49 AM



Kamaru Usman: Georges St-Pierre was the best welterweight of all time

SwoopAE who would you take Usman or GSP? both sitting close to evens. GSP is ripped to pieces (39)

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07-14-2020 , 09:32 AM

UFC on ESPN 13 official weigh-ins live from Fight Island
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07-14-2020 , 11:08 AM
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Ige by decision at 7.5 seems like it would be value on first look.
i think ige is getting absolutely shredded tomorrow. will be a more violent version of the julio arce fight. i expect a kattar finish by rd 3 or 4.
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07-14-2020 , 02:40 PM
Somewhat hard to pick winners in this card. but these are the 6 im going to look into and most likely go with.

Kattar looks like value. i dont see how ige survives 5 rounds but hes tough. ill have to look into that. Havnt watched tape yet but small edit: Ige has never been finished. ill watch the Arce fight again, can Ige be tough enough to survive a beating for 5 rounds...? tough pick, hard to bet against a finish but i also avoid betting finish against fighters who have shown they simply DONT get finished. Ige's lineup of recent victories is surprisingly strong too.

McCann.... 3-1 in the ufc, 10-2 overall the other girl has a stellar record but lost her first ufc fight against a pretty bad fighter. line steam seems to favor mccann too.

Ricardo ramos 5-1 in ufc, fighting a guy who has 1 draw in the ufc so far. ill watch his opponents fight against Zubaira and see how competitive it was.

This Abdul Razzak guy seems like a beast, 4-1 in ufc with all wins via KO in the FIRST round. pretty big fav for a reason i guess. fighting a new guy whos 9-1 who appears to be a decent middle east MMA regular.

Probably ez money on Jack Shore. hes a monster from Cage Warriors in the Uk, 12-0, 1-0 in the ufc. most of his wins are by finish, the guy hes fighting tho has only ever been finished once and is 12-3. +250 judges for 135ers not exactly the worst value, -200 for a finish.

Rivera vs Stamann is an interesting one. rivera isnt getting better, stamann isnt really slowing down. only real loss in quite awhile is to Sterling who is on god mode currently. rivera lost 3 of his last 4. stamann is underdog for some reason at +112 or +165 for judges, i guess its a step up skill wise to go against the vet. im taking Stamann by judges, if you pick anything but judges here you crazy as neither guy has finished an opponent in many years.

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07-15-2020 , 01:58 AM
I'd take current Usman vs current GSP, but prime GSP over current Usman
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07-15-2020 , 11:37 AM
Ok so I have a full and interesting slate of bets today - one of my locals brought out 'fighter 1 to win in r1 or fighter 2 by dec' or 'any other option' props for every fight, as well as decision no bet props etc

Might get some more tomorrow but this is what I have for now

Smallish on Shore, mix of -700, SUB +105 and ITD -167
Small on Santos +136 - against steam so not going big here, but a sharp friend likes her but the heavy McCann steam is concerning so 0.1u etc tiny bet

Ramos -155 small-medium

Michialidis small-medium +163

Ige/Kattar o2.5 rounds medium-full unit
Ige +250 small
Ige DEC +600 small

Gordon -138 full unit

Elliott sub or dec +102 small-medium

Chiaev ITD -181 small-medium

Belbita -187 medium-full unit

Alhassan TKO or DEC -270 small-medium

NOT Rivera r1 or Stamann decision +102 average medium - weird prop one of my locals have - this is basically a Rivera decision bet plus I get Stamann ITD and Rivera r2-3 as a bonus for barely any vig over what Rivera dec was in the first place

Gordon is my biggest bet, then Belbita, then the main over, then a bunch of them are similar sizing and smallest on Santos

Good luck all let's hope the card delivers from an entertainment perspective, not a lot of names but no complaints here when we get two cards this week and Ige/Barboza was very fun, hopefully this one delivers too
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07-15-2020 , 01:38 PM
251 was a perfect card for me and even hit a 4-fight parlay. Up 4u so my best card this year.

Just realized we have fights tonight, if I get back from soccer on time will place some bets. Good luck everyone make that $$$$
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07-15-2020 , 04:28 PM
Few small bets to give me some interest in the card.

Lerone Murphy at 2.5
John Phillips to win by KO at 6.5
Dan Ige to win by decision at 9.0

Better card coming up on Saturday which looks to have some decent spots.
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07-15-2020 , 05:43 PM
taila santos' defensive reactions whenever mara romero borella pressured her were so goddawful that i think mccann is the bet. wouldn't surprise me if santos got on top here or there though. but i think with volume and aggression mccann should take it, and her top game is in play as well.

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