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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Dustin is legitimately the 3rd best fighter in the division and will provide some stylistic challenges for Khabib. Still think Khabib should be a good sized favorite, although probably not much value in betting it.
I do think people sleep a bit on Khabib's standup. He's not Ben Askren, in that he has to take the fight to the ground to win. He held his own against Conor on the feet, out struck Barboza on the feet, and out struck Iaquinta by more than 2 to 1 from distance. Poirier is obviously the better striker but that doesn't ensure that he will win the standup even if he somehow manages to keep it on the feet.
I don't think Khabib's standup is that good, I think it plays up a lot because people are so worried about getting taken down that it opens up shots on his feet, but in a straight kickboxing match Poirier would smoke him.
But here's the thing, I actually think Khabib's ground game is somewhat overhyped. Yes he's an animal who can put ferocious ground and pound on people, but I also think people are starting to figure him out. I've watched the McGregor fight like 5 or 6 times and he wasn't really THAT dominant on the ground, yes he eventually managed to choke McGregor out but Conor's not nearly the grappler that Poirier is, and Conor did far better on the ground than I expected he would going into that fight.
And if you look at Khabib's record, he really hasn't fought that many high level grapplers. He smashed Michael Johnson (a striker with great handspeed but so/so grappling), he smashed Edson Barboza (a striker who got smashed in arguably a more vicious fashion by Kevin Lee), he beat Iaquinta who was fighting on like 24 hours notice and was so determined to not get taken down that just gave the fight away on his feet, but the only really decorated grappler he's fought in the last 5 years was RDA, and yes he did well, but I don't think there was nearly as much tape on Khabib then as there is now, and that was only a 3 round fight (which isn't necessarily to say that Poirier is the FAVORITE, but from an expected value perspective it's an easy fade at -300 IMO.)
Poirier trains at American Top Team which is probably the best fight camp in the world and he's grappling with the best of the best in training all the time. ATT and Mike Brown have proven they're very good at coming up with exploitive game plans, just look at what Jorge Masvidal did to Ben Askren. I think they're very capable of breaking down Khabib's game and coming up with exploitive techniques to counter what he likes to do on the ground, they've had tons of times to train specifically for Khabib and watch film on him, and Khabib is prone to gassing too. And make no mistake, Poirier is the better all around fighter than Khabib, for Khabib to be priced as a -300 favorite he needs to have an enormous advantage in the wrestling / grappling department and I'm just not convinced it's there. I'm fading Khabib big time in this one.