Heading to a 50-44 or so I guess by the look

Good card for me all up. Could been bigger if Woodley won or whatever but I won a few units

8.0 for the DEC on Jones, just crazy!!!

Thank God for turinabol and all that fake humble Jones is here

Jones typical scared **** to move up and face some real killers, but there's some decent killers at 205 so, looking forward to see him fight Walker...

Why are fighters so stupid? How is it stealing, the guy kneed you illegally, if anything he tried to steal it from you, moron!

He has Santos and Walker coming up who both are more likely to land a one punch KO on him than anyone since Rumble who never actually fought Jones

Smith is pretty dumb not to have taken the gamble on a DQ or NC at worst no one will remember his honour in a few months yet if he got the belt worst case he gets a 2nd payday or a NC he at least doesn't 'lose'

Anyway yeah idk good heart shown by Smith but at no point did he look like he had any chance of actually winning even less so than most of Jones opponents.

I want to see Walker or Santos because at least you know while they're nowhere near as good or technical as Jones they'll walk him down and throw bombs at him that can knock him out if they land

Great card though, Usman did what Jones did to Lionheart, only i got +500 or some **** for it, while jones was -700 looooool... gotta spot those big spots!

I was way too confident in Jones ITD and fight does not go the distance. Cost me dearly.

i had a pretty big win last night, but felt like i didn't handicap the card too well overall. missed in some brutal sports. the gall bet was indefensible. least i nailed usman and added big on it when steam came on woodley. super excited for jones vs reyes, walker and santos, but i'm most excited for walker-santos because that fight is going to happen 100% at some point. i still think walker has a little oedzimir to his game, but we shall see.

Damn, that Usman performance vs "the most dominant WW off all time" according to himself. The mentor, the guy that goes 25 minutes with Askren with a pace, the guy that out-wrestles, the Chosen one Tyron Woodley....

Usman made him look like a complete rookie, I always have that fight in the back of my head against Rory, I knew that his last performances weren't exactly flukes but he just got a little lucky, that he either landed the big Tbomb or the fighters were too worried of his skill set that they didn't commit to their own.

We seen glimpses in the Wonderboy fight were he had him in defense mode up on the cage getting lit up, but WB forgot to make him work, the blue print! And that's what Usman did perfectly, I thought that Woodley would of had the advantage in the wrestling department, and he might actually have but I think it's just a matter of gas tank, he knows he can't wrestle for more than 5 minutes before all the pop in his strikes are gone and after 5 min, he's completely exhausted, he literally can't do anything but go into defense mode.

Really excellent work by Usman, not only did he make him work from the get go but he outwrestled him, he dominated on the ground, he brought the wrestling to him and Tyron had 0 to offer defensively, he had nothing offensively in the wrestling department either, which really surprised me at first until I realised that he just doesn't have the gas tank and he knows it!

Kudos to Usman to fight the fight I exactly how I envisioned him to do and he did it even better, way, way better.

As for Askren, he got KO'd and went out and Robbie actually hit him a few times after and that and woke him back up lol... You could literally see him go out for a few seconds, I'm pretty sure they had words in the locker and Askren told the ref to not stop it, I mean that was a brutal beating and that should of been stopped, that was just crazy how the ref let that go on. Robbie completely butchered the fight imo, letting Askren recover, Askren was on wobbly legs for at least another 30 secs!

Don't think Askren has anything for a guy like Colby and def not a guy like Usman, both have superior striking and both have great gas tanks! The wrestling and grappling probably nullify.

Lionheart was a complete letdown, I hate it when guys say 1 thing prior to the fight then just look like bambi in the cage, you can't be scared of what the other guy might or might not do. You have to be fearless and follow your own game plan, if you are worried that Jones is going to take you down or knock you out, then you have already failed before you even enter the cage.

Look how Smith did nothing in clinches, just nothing at all, not 1 elbow, not 1 knee that's his best position and he was too busy smiling at Jones, his mindset was that of a fanboy, not a killer that thought he was on the same playing field, deep down he knew he was outclassed and was destined to lose, in my opinion.

Not sure if Sage counts either tbh. Mickey looked terrible. He is on his way out imo.

I don't know how anyone thinks he was out. He was relaxing in the choke, Herb grabbed his hand, and he pulled away from Herbs grip and gave a thumbs up. It was clearly and unquestionably a terrible stoppage.

I don't think he's a bonehead, but I don't think he should be honorable vs, specifically, Jon Jones. The guy is dirty and cheats when he can. Take the W, and say you wouldn't do it to anyone else.


Great card overall. I wasn't pumped for the main event, and it didn't deliver but the rest of the card sure did. I made some hedges that didn't work out. Had Ciefers +305, but Polyana fell to -235 so I hedged. Had Shabaz at +101, but took Byrd at +140. However, nothing mattered because I bet absolute piles on Walker and he delivered as expected. GG.

You could literally see Askren's legs shaking after he got up. What a "welcome to the UFC" moment getting power bombed by Lawler.

I like how you distinguish Jones and the rest. Makes sense, def vs him to take the W.

The idea Colby could outwrestle Askren is laughable. I think Askren takes him down easily

Usman is probably the toughest MU in the division for him that guy is seriously strong overpowering Woodley like that

Askren's called out Till a lot on twitter and said he wants the Till/Masvidal winner, makes sense as neither guy will be able to stop his takedown. Till is a massive dickhead so i'd love to see Askren wreck him, but i'd also love to see Masvidal wreck Till so either way

I think if Till wins and Askren beats him he's made a case for a title shot at Usman (assuming they make Covington vs Usman now for the belt

When Wonderboy beats Pettis (which im assuming is a given I just don't see how Pettis can win that short of a random head kick KO or whatever) I think we should make Wonderboy vs Ponzinibbo, do Askren vs Till assuming he beats Masvidal and Covington vs Usman, you can do Woodley vs Covington due to the backstory after his title fight if Covington loses which he prob will and then either Askren vs Usman if he beats Till or WB/Ponz winner vs Usman or do them back to back if any fighters need time off.

WW is actually very interesting now that Woodley lost the belt, tons of worthwhile contenders

Herb definitely made a mistake but humans make mistakes, especially in the heat of the moment. That's why the UFC should have systems and protocols to handle situations like this. There are way too many "oops I goofed, so the fight is over" moments in the UFC.

I thought Askren would take Robbie down easily.

Ehh, if there are so many then why is Till fighting Masvidal and why is Stephen Thompson fighting Anthony Pettis? I dont' see that many legit contenders and I think Usman will be way tougher to take that title from than Woodley. Woodley keeps talking about how he had 5 title defenses but dude only won 3 of those fights!

Askren is clearly the #1 contender after Colby if he wins his next fight which he should regardless of who its against

After that there are tons of possibilities but if they win two or three fights against top 5 guys between now and then any of Wonderboy, Woodley, Pettis, Till and Ponzinibbio could get a title shot and there are guys like Millender and Edwards and Luque who deserve a shot to break into the top 10 if they keep winning as well

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You didn't think Usman could out-wrestle Woodley either, I'd keep your laughs for yourself bro, crazier things have happened in the fight game. Colby has way better striking, his gas tank is fantastic, he could put on a clinic very similar to Usman. If not he can get very close to nullify the wrestling. Askren stand up is terrible, and we've just seen Robby get the better of him while being wrestled, granted he messed it up shortly after but that's not my point.

Not sure Herb made a mistake, go back and watch it closely, check out Rogan's podcast were he talk about it again. They seem to think that Robby went out for a few seconds, that's when Askren loosened the grip as Herb waved him to stop, that's ehrn Robby came back to life. You can get choked out for a few seconds and insta be back awake, seen it happen before.

They talk about that your am doesn't just drop like that, look closely, Robby isn't relaxing his arm, it dropped to the floor, went limp, if only for a brief few seconds.

This.

Stoppage was legit.

How? Askren beat Lawler by Lawler giving a thumbs up. He got rekt out the gate, and didn't finish a sub. He was unimpressive to me, and I like him. He slow and very hittable. He needs to beat Damien Maia or Lawler, and then jump up to fight a guy like RDA imo.

Luke Thomas does a good breakdown of this on the Monday Morning Analyst. Terrible stoppage.

meh gracie breakdown said it was fine. i trust them over luke. this finish reminds me of the chiesa-lee stoppage. even if it might have been early, the choke was in and it was an inevitability. askren gets absolutely bodied by colby and usman though.

Anyone see a line on Usman/Colby yet? The UFC did announce that it will be next.

no idea , in couple months for sure !

they should get a thicker fence for that fight

Next card will be interesting since JDS chin wasn't what it was but he should box up Lewis very easily from range and be able to stop the takedown probably. I think JDS is going to win but -200 seems about right. I may still talk myself into JDS. Lewis has had back injuries forever, gas tank issues and doesn't move that well

That said he's capable of hulk smashing anyone at any moment but even past his prime I think JDS will be able to circle away and pick him apart at range until Lewis gasses

I'm pretty high on Millender so will prob continue to back him except I might want to watch some EZDS tape.

Dariush should outclass Dober but his chin is a bit of an issue imo, not quite the right price

I was pretty high on Price but have backed off a bit. No idea what to make of Price/Means

Hard to tell how good Rothwell will be or how much he was roiding. No idea what to make of Rothwell vs Ivanov. Maybe u2.5 rounds since it's HW and only just below evens; both guys capable of finishing even though they're not the most explosive HWs.

Pretty high on Akhmedov in general he's hittable but Boetsch is 38 and was never that great just has power. He could put Akhmedov out but probably won't. Think i'm backing Akhmedov if prices stay about the same.

Moraes/Martin is tough to call, pretty high on both guys relative to most I think. If Moraes goes above +200 though i'm not sure Martin is that big a fav even though I was super impressed with his fight against Jake Matthews; Moraes has only been outclassed by the champ in the UFC and has heart and elite BJJ and serviceable striking for a grappler

Reneau is 41 so tempted by Kunitskaya even though i've only seen two of her fights

Maybe Smolka if he looks good at weigh ins? Has the higher ceiling of the two and hopefully he's got his mojo back a bit after a few wins granted against lower level guys.

No real interest in any of the other early prelim lines

No bets yet but good chance i'll take a few of those