Anyone else think that JJ is going to get the finish in this one? When do the betting lines for this type of bet normally start?

Another case of micro dosing which has been the go to method since USADA arrived. Media doesn't even use the word. Shame on the UFC for moving the card.... all the hotels and flight money by fans lost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uyIdngGwBA

not micro dossing we talking about a pictogram...learn what is a pictogram whatch the video

I've been saying this. Preach.

Just read that is was 20-80 pg in the original test failure a year and a half ago, now it’s 60 pg 18 months later. Yeah. Jones is still roiding. He just sucks at beating drug tests.

Apparently I was reading the Turinabol he popped for helps you keep your strength and power when you're cutting weight, and the failed test is around when the weight cut process would be starting.

Next to no chance this is an old test failure, Jones is the same cheating POS he has always been - hasn't he failed a drug test in 3 of his 4 fights under USADA testing and the one he passed he had like 1/10th of a normal mans testosterone or something ridiculous. Three times. Also didn't Jones pass some drug tests in between these failures and now he's claiming 'pulsing' yet his level is similar to what it was a year and a half ago?

Also Tim Lawlor tweeted that 17 picograms of a less effective substance got him 2 years which shows what a joke this is no way Jones would be allowed to fight if he was a random undercard fighter.

If Gustafsson were to get seriously injured this fight the UFC are to blame for letting a guy they know is taking roids compete.

I hope Gus knocks him out anyway but slightly less confident than I was when there was a chance Jones would be clean. I think there's a good chance it's a close competitive fight like the first one.

Lines for the ESPN card have come out. PVZ -144 vs Rachel Ostovich +116 is one I am likely going to fire on. What are you guys thoughts on this fight?

Pvz -200 imo

Wow was hoping to get Ngannou +300, I guess not then. Cain at -175 almost tempting although with the layoff no chance i'm backing him until we see he's not a shell of his former self - I wanted a long price on Ngannou to find his chin early, might play Ngannou wins by r1 KO if the price is reasonable but I doubt it since obv if Ngannou wins that's usually how.

Glover's best days are behind him but is he so far gone that +165ish isn't value against Cutelaba?

Obv love PVZ at the -145 range, I think -200 is closer, I like Ostovich too but she's only beaten cans and while PVZ doesn't seem to be improving at the rate she should, she really should win this. Granted I bet PVZ against Clark too and was wrong, but I feel like PVZ should do well against girls who aren't top 25ish even in the division on athleticism and heart/chin alone. She has a decent work ethic she just makes mistakes

No bets yet for this card i've waited this long may as well see the weigh ins first. My leans are Gustafsson (although less so with Jones being on the juice again), Nunes (if the size difference is smaller than I expect, basically if Cyborg doesn't make her look tiny), Chiesa by submission (and possibly by r1 submission if price is right), Arlovski and maybe Hall and Millender although this is a fun matchup for both Millender and Siyar as they both want to strike.

fair enough, well when you hear that is 2 brothers which made it into the nfl and got caught cheating ...at that point we have no idea how far these 3 brothers perfected the art of roiding

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2djmc8z8WQ&t=3189s

If Nunez doesn't win in R1 or R2, she not winning it. Nunez can catch her early on, she got mad power, with that said Cyborg can take a punch and cardio is on her side. Nunez will slow down considerably and will look for ways out of the fight past round 3. Cyborg will also not make this a staring contest, so Nunez will be very active from the get go, don't see this going the distance, like ever and I also don't see Nunez winning after round 3.

There's something about PVZ that prevents me from betting her, she's just a ****** in the cage, she got heart but no much talent imo, I don't like her fight IQ.

I'm gonna fire a Nunez/Jones/Latifi parlay as my only action this weekend. 6:1

An aging Cyborg might not be ready for a prime Nunez onslaught in later rounds.

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If either of them has more energy in the later rounds it will be Cyborg, not Nunes.

Have you watched any of Nunez's previous fights? She gasses pretty bad past round 2, she's explosive as ****, and like all other explosive athletes they tend to gas in later rounds, she's no exception. Sure she had a 5 rounder, to prove that she could last but she didn't do anything in those 5 rounds, imo they aren't proving **** if they aren't going hard for 5 rounds!

I should have elaborated. I have Nunez winning on points. Especially later rounds.

Yeah I know about his brothers in the NFL etc, and obviously they didn't perfect it if Jones has now failed 3 drug tests, he's just an arrogant narcissist who doesn't care about anyone other than himself as shown by his constant cheating, the hit and run, drink driving, etc.

I really wanted to like Jon Jones so badly I was even cheering for him against Shogun back in the day but he's just a legitimately bad person who happens to be talented and he doesn't deserve his success because he's a cheat and a scumbag

Mike Russell saying he knows who UFC 145 drug test results werent released and hinting Jones failed his test vs Rashad (all cards before/after in that timeframe released)

UFC are going to go to extreme lengths to cover that up esp if Jones wins again

Stolen from a random reddit mma thread because the Simpsons can be relevant to anything

NSAC: Good lord, what is happening in there?!

Jeff Novitzky:...residual metabolites but a passing drug test?

Nsac: Uh, residual metabolites?! At this point in the testing pool, in this time of the training camp, localized entirely within Jon Jones?

Jeff: ...yes.

NSAC: May we see it?

Jeff: No.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB-B7i8ZT2g

5:47 now dana white said no he didnt fkn cheat and every scientist say no ist impossible to take such a microdose..we talking about a trillion of a trillion of a grain of salt!
jeff said no he didnt ,dana said no he didnt...why LA because ....whatch the video lol
swoop you *** up the fact...i get it you dont like jones ! but the facts and scientifically proven...ist a thing that pop out when his level of testosterone fluctuate..during trainning camp ! they dont know yet how and why..the metabolite in question stay in his muscle!
no only that but it is well known that once you took roids and train particular muscle..some molecules will stay in the muscle until the end

not only that swoop here a podcast of nearly 2 hours with jeff and joe talking about jon lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so3qOEMZXDQ

Brave instead of writing all that just show swoop examples of all the other fighters this is happening to each card

Off the top of my head I can think of a handful of fighters who have failed one drug test for random contaminated supplements (either real or as their excuse for being on the juice) since USADA testing became the standard but i'm struggling to think of guys who have failed 3+ tests. Has anyone else failed 3 tests under USADA?

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Vic...spicious-80631

Look at the numbers in this article. Jones is light years outside the 'normal range' and off by 80-90% etc in various categories

Because naturally an insanely athletic man in his athletic prime who has failed 3 drug tests, has access to NFL-grade designer steroids through his siblings, has no moral compass (the hit and run etc) is just unlucky and also happens to have the testosterone lower than an elderly obese man yet is somehow still an amazing athlete.

I mean yeah you might not convict in a court of law, but occam's razor etc...

anyone with half a brain knows he's on ****. makes me feel a ton better about my jones -270

the bevon lewis fight looks interesting. bevon looks like he's got a uriah hall cryptoite style. hes a big grdining pressure fighter who wants to push his opponent up against the cage and do work there. but this is also a massive step up in competition. i wouldn't have thought uriah had much chance vs costa and he certainly had his moments.

khabib still does horrible things to max though

Not to mention he is willing to break the law for recreational drugs that could get him jail time and have no performance or financial upside--only detriment---yet would draw the line at juicing again because of ...honor? Adequate decision-making skills? Fear of consequences? Good impulse control?

He is incapable of not cheating.

Man i dunno who to bet on. Like i want gustafsson to win and you get good money if he does but.... CAN he beat jon jones?

their first fight was so close... too lazy to rewatch but did alex ever hurt jon? or was the damage on his face just cumulative damage cuz it went 5 rounds?