i think the fun part about this fight is that it's such a binary choice. one guy will be able to dictate the place the fight is contested and will dominate the other. my money is solidly on khabib but we won't know until the fight starts. i obviously can see the case the conor side is making.

I have to be honest and say yes. As Swoop said only a sub is likely less likely and tbh I think Connor decision should be +1800 at least.

Watching some more tape on both guys and Khahib is open to take hard shots which benefits Connor as he's truly a master and finding holes for massive lefts.

Fight should be about +200 in my opinion based on the probabilities of it landing getting the KO as opposed to Khahib getting a hold of him. Once that happens it should be nearly as effective as a KO would be the other way. Connor won't last with Khahib on top of him for more than 90 seconds.

i rewatched the mendez fight and mendez controlled conor on the ground landing tons of strikes solidly til he gassed. also hes way smaller than khabib. conors tdd did not look good against a no camp mendez. khabib is like a wayyyyy better version of mendez on the ground. i dont see how conor survives.

thats my logic going into it, im probably going to look for a 2nd or 3rd round khabib TKO/sub, or a UD khabib. i dont think conor can last 25, but it scares me that with khabibs good cardio he might just **** with conor like barboza for longer than 15 mins and drag it into 4/5.

Just for the record, Conor won't be able to close the gap within 2 years ( the time he' has been out and hopefully been training wrestling with this fight in mind) vs a fighter that is Khabib, somebody on youtube mentioned it, you can't close the gap, never ever.

Somebody mentioned Conor is a brown belt, RDA is a black belt and got mauled.

You have to remember that Khabib is very strong, so once he does get on top of you, it's very hard to get free of him.

Again, I'm not suggesting to pull guard, I'm talking about the fight as a whole. Khabib's striking is bad. He also has to be more careful shooting on someone who has dangerous sub skills. Someone like Ortega would beat him imo. Sweeps would be a threat, but he could also lock down a good rubber guard and just stall into a stand up, could sub, etc.

man if gray maynard gets to like +250 i'm considering him. not a bad matchup for him at all.

Yeah, exactly, anybody that thinks Conor looked good fighting mini Mendez has a screw loose. Mendez only lost because he gassed, look how he took him down at will for 1.5 rounds, then in round 2 or 3 (can't remember exactly when), Conor finally stuffed a take down, I think that was the turning point.

Completely agree and Khabib makes pro wrestlers look amateurish, those are facts, his ground and pound is the best in the world. He is a lot stronger than Mendez and let's not forget how Mendez took several big shots from Conor early on and walked right through them. He only went down to that 1-2 because he was gassed as ****. Conor didn't even tko him, check it out.

Conor mentioned that Khabib might gas (on Ariel show) just lol. Yeah if it's a straight cardio contest with the output that Khabib puts on his opponents, well good luck thinking you gunna outwork him!

Another thing Khabib mentioned and I pointed out already, Nate and Eddy did not pressure Conor at all, (Eddy did **** all, he just stood there waiting for Conor to land on him) they fought stand up and range/boxing, Khabib won't give an inch to Conor, you know how taxing that is. Boxing 5 x 5min rounds vs wrestling/grappling and boxing is a different ball game.

Really guys, Conor is persuasive but don't fool yourself, he is never going 5 rounds with Khabib, he could barely go 5 rounds with Nate and that was almost straight up boxing.

Unless Conor lands early, I'll give him 2 rounds, I don't see him winning. He has a legit chance though, as he is a great striker, but only if Khabib indeed has a glass jaw, like Conor says he has. What's going to happen when Conor realises, he aint 1 shot ko'ing him? Or what is he going to do if Khabib mauls him for an entire round?

This is the best fight ever, if Conor pulls it off, there's just no more excuses, I'm just having a hard time seeing it, boxers usually don't fair well vs wrestlers. Obv Conor is 1 of the best if not the best striker in UFC right now. Khabib is sloppy and does get hit a lot, so there's that.

Have to say though he fights differently vs different opponents, vs Al, he purposely stood with him, because that's how he tests his own stand up, he barely got hit vs both MJ, RDA and Edson and that's because he choose to wrestle more with them.

Can see Conor landing on Khabib but I don't know if Conor will necessarily KO him.

ortega is probably the one in mma that can catch nurmagomedov in a sub ,that's the thing ( we talking about different animal here..the best in the world at what they does loll )anyways...if ortega sub khalib it would probably be by a quick choke unlikely from the guard because khabib wouldnt allow him that treat !

If connor get taking down ,he won't go back up man loll not with khabib..hes a MONSTER!

i had lentz vs maynard since the line drop 4 weeks a go loll
maynard should retire imo

this card is actually kinda stacked im so psyched for itttt

hehe im gettin there slowly loll got caught up betting on other sports ...NHL starting soon my betting paturn looking great !

dont **** in your pants lol

Well when you're the champ you're always facing top talent. I think Diaz would give Khabib a great fight too.

I like a Derrick Lewis KO on Volkov (and I love me some Volkov). This is going to be such a fun card for action.

Assuming Derrick Lewis's back cooperates, I actually really like the matchup for him. He's very athletic and has huge power, and if he gets on top of you it's over.

Of course, whether or not his back will cooperate is very much an open question, which is why I didn't bet too heavily on it.

Thinking about taking Ferguson/Pettis to not go the distance at -110ish, both guys are more offensively talented than defensively I think it ends in a finish like 60% of the time. Also leaning the u2.5 rounds on Conor/Khabib that covers basically all of Conors wins and maybe a third to half of Khabib's imo

I don't hate Conor ITD at +185 etc too but don't quite like it enough to bet it yet.

I've always been super low on Volkov but I think he beats Lewis if he can keep it standing... but the issue is if Lewis's back is really better Lewis will probably take him down and hulk smash him I know the Bellator fight was a long time ago but what Kongo did to him with Lewis's brute strength...

A year ago i'd have snap taken Formiga to beat Sergio Pettis but now i'm not so sure - i'm considering just making some unders plays on the main and comain atm

Also call me crazy but I don't hate Gray Maynard to beat Nik Lentz as a decent dog, Maynard's biggest issue is that his chin is totally shot but Lentz isn't exactly a power puncher and outside of what may have been a fluke sub vs Brooks Lentz hasn't been impressive since about 2013 either

Completely agree here I actually made my last post before seeing this outside of main/comain unders it's my fav spot of the card as awful as Maynard is now this is as close to a perfect matchup you can get for him against a non can as possible

Everyone's mentioned Conor gassing out, but I think after the Mayweather fight he has brought trainers in and made improvements in terms of cardio... he has gone back to running on a treadmill regularly which he mentioned he stayed away from for quite some time. Also, it looks like he has bulked up quite a bit to try stuff a (slightly) higher percentage of take downs.

When McGregor demolishes Khabib on sat, myself and many other will have a field day getting back at all the white_gatsby of the world.

People just can't handle a guy being so brash and succesful, stings your ego so hard,

I'd love for an academic like Jordan Peterson to be a diehard MMA fan, come out and put a masterclass on everyone. I am just a regular non native speaking bystander out of the silent mass.

You'd rather get in line behind seemingly good guy Khabib who in fact is a degenerate extremist ( and I like the guy, free will is another debate ).

You guys are the goatherds from Thus Spoke Zarathustra. Amusing when you know where Khabib is coming from.

Khabib should be -200. I currently see him at -144, which is a discount IMO.

I'll take Lentz with you juice free if you want. Lentz is 5-0 ATS as a favorite, I like him to get it done.

You have turned this into politics, we are assessing fighters vs fighters, go take your nonsense somewhere else, please!

I think this is a likely strat. 4 mins on the bike looking for a shot and avoiding a single-leg takedown, engage with 1 min or so left in a round. Limit time spent on ground if (when) it gets to that...

Khabib will push tempo no doubt.

The question I ponder is if Khabib will respect Conor's power at all or attempt to walk through it......

good vice piece on bare knuckle boxing, trying to make it a legit sport like UFC/boxing and its their 1st event in Wyoming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agkUPzyMbGg

didnt know this existed til i saw it recommended on youtube. its actually pretty good, a couple EX-ufc vets and bellator vets, and the owner seems like a good dude, cancer survivor etc just trying to start up a new sport. .

something random to watch whilst waiting for this epic UFC event.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

my internet dad is going to come beat your dad up! please don't bring these dip****s up in a ****ing mma betting thread.

I have Tony Martin at +170, the BLACK BEAST at +153, OSP at +166, Pettis at +266 (bad price but I personally think he's like 40% to win), Khabib at -160, Waterson at +115, and put $100 on Khabib to win by submission at +315 just for the hell of it (and also because I think Conor is the type of guy to intentionally give up a submission rather than get pounded into oblivion for 5 rounds.)

Good luck to all.