Uncle Dana got that over.

Its because their styles are so polarized. So you could argue that it would be a dominate win either way instead of a close back and forth fight. But who knows it might be a fight more similar to the Chad Mendez fight, where both fighter have their moments.

Still not sure what to bet, I think the single most likely outcome might be Khabib in the later rounds, but the combination of Khabib in early rounds + Conor in early rounds seems more appealing. That way I can also root for Mcgregor and also still win if Khabib smashes him

He drank a decent amount of whiskey in a half hour.

Shaky , nervous ....whiskey ! it doesn't add up to me...he sounds and looks like a guy that took cocaine to the level in some party !
also his friend's from uk are apparently ghetto rat dude...so if you wonder where that crap comes from!

Conor tires easily due his punching for max power strategy. I see almost no scenario where this goes 5 rounds. If Khahib can take Connor down for 1 minute Connor (if not stopped in that time) will have no power once the bell goes for a new round. Connor standing up is near impossible. From the clinch Connor having the TDD to stop a TD is impossible.

The fight will be sorted on the 1st or perhaps second time they engage. Either Connor catches him with a huge cross left and gets the KO or Khahib takes him down and blast him to eternity.


A very good strategy for Connor might be to run for 4.5 minutes of Rd1 and then engage Khahib. 30 seconds is more than enough time to get the KO (his path to win) yet it doesn't give Khahib enough time to clinch, get the TD, position his body for optimal gnp and get the finish.

taking lima and gegard tomorrow. both small, not sure either is that great at their prices but think theres a slight bit of value on both. no chance i bet the old man fight unless wanderlei gets to 300+ then ill flick small on it cause gl predictiing that one.

Bellator seemingly does an awful job promoting their events. Outside the US, few genuinely know and the TV coverage is awful as it's merely edited highlights rather than live as-it-happens.

British and Irish fans of UFC after 2018 are going to have to pay for a service much like UFC Fight Pass as it goes online, no cable or satellite channel, to some outfit called Eleven Sports which is owned by some Italian who owns a soccer club (Leeds United) amongst many things.

Bellator are going online as well!? Some online portal called DAZN (pronounced "The Zone").

The future of watching MMA from afar is going to be weird.

https://mmajunkie.com/2018/09/twitte...o-sell-himself
https://mmajunkie.com/2018/09/50-cen...illion-dollars

i think the value is on mcdonald...3 to 1 i think he is under estimated, his grappling is top notch and train with gsp on a regular basis!
took lima,jackson and picoo too

When you consume a lot of alcohol it eats into your vitality, it drys you out and effects your brain, conor did not look like a Olympic level fresh athlete that has been doing nothing but training sleeping right and so on
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If you bet conor and he loses... you are going to look back and think to yourself, hold on a min man, i bet the guy that came out on stage before the event started, drinking whiskey and was commenting that he didn't need to fight any more.
Also it legit did not look like he was pretending to bolster his product sales, he has been drinking for realz, an Irish guy starts a whiskey company and likes a drink... and has a date with Khabib over 5 rds?

I think every one can do the maths on this, and if your thinking no it wont be that way, he is just doing it a little bit, or its for promotion only.

That's not what we are seeing with our own eyes.

I know what it is and what it feels like to get a little too close to whiskey, wine and beer you can abuse every day after work and be pretty decent.

Whiskey is a whole other level, it will literally rot your brain and definitely effect a high level sports persons performance a lot man. Conor has been drinking i can see it in his moment to moment presence, its not just one evening, you can see its worn or taken a little from him.

If this was a conor that had never even got involved in this wiskey BS,, it would be better.

If you have two guys like this at this level and one guy is showing signs of discombobulation and is talking about whiskey, wtf has whiskey got to do with any thing.... why is he talking about whiskey, so you sell whiskey big deal, its you people are interested, this is not harry houdini misdirection time, busting props on stage.

The truth of the matter is that Conor has a new friend, a friend he can expose in public to the cover of making money, but garanteed,, conor has a drinking problem.

Maybe i am wrong but I see damage in conor from drink and what ever else the disco takes to get into the groove.

Conor can beat Khabib but I dont like his odds, your mind needs to be baby fresh, not moody grandpa burnt.

Talk is cheap, you are not knocking out Khabib with one shot 1sst rd, you need to touch him up and move him and figure him out for 3 rounds.

Getting him hurt is dangerous because then he really will lunge to get a grip on you.

LFA 51 Risk $470.00

Cody Gibson (+105) vs Gustavo Erak $100.00 for $105.00
Cody Gibson (-120) vs Gustavo Erak $120.00 for $100.00

Jordan Powell (+130) vs Andres Alcantar $125.00 for $162.50
Jordan Powell (+115) vs Andres Alcantar $125.00 for $143.75

Backed Rampage at 1.4 for £500.

Should have the advantage everywhere.
He still has a decent chin, big weight advantage, power advantage, better wrestler if he decides to implement takedowns.

Always a risk betting either side in a fight like this. But I do think Rampage is closer to 1.25 then 1.4.

Didn't realise that it's on Five in the UK as they'll be showing the main card from 3am GMT. Finally.

No idea if Bellator in the UK will be given a bigger push or whether this is just a one-off and they will go to a streaming service in the UK just like UFC will.

Thoughts on Pico down to -360? Isn't he the LeBron of MMA?

Lima, Rory, Page all look like ok spots as well but admittedly don't follow Bellator as much.

Bellator 206 Risk $2594.70

Gegard Mousasi (-220) vs Rory MacDonald $550.00 for $250.00
Gegard Mousasi (-232) vs Rory MacDonald $580.00 for $250.00
Gegard Mousasi (-249) vs Rory MacDonald $498.00 for $200.00
Gegard Mousasi/Rory MacDonald Over 4½ (-105) $105.00 for $100.00
Gegard Mousasi/Rory MacDonald Over 4½ (-105) $105.00 for $100.00

Wanderlei Silva (+245) vs Quinton Jackson $100.00 for $245.00
Wanderlei Silva/Quinton Jackson Over 1½ (-130) $130.00 for $100.00

Douglas Lima (+135) vs Andrey Koreshkov ~$91.70 for ~$123.80
Douglas Lima (+110) vs Andrey Koreshkov $100.00 for $110.00

Leandro Higo (+305) vs Aaron Pico $75.00 for $228.75
Leandro Higo/Aaron Pico Over 1½ (-110) $110.00 for $100.00

Keri Melendez/Dakota Zimmerman Over 1½ (+115) $100.00 for $115.00

Arlene Blencowe (+100) vs Amber Leibrock $50.00 for $50.00

Implying Conor only win that fight 1 out of 10 times or something ? If so how did you come up with that number ?

We clearly don't have the same definition for "ragdoll". Khabib ragdolled Barboza, DC ragdolled Hendo.

Maybe you'll respect the opinion of these people :

Connor McGregor vs Chad Mendes (Gracie Breakdown)



But then again, who cares if he looked fatigued, bottom line he KO'ed him. You can say Mendes didnt have a camp, well it is said Conor had a lot of struggle but just stfu about it, including possible staph infection.

In the end we are both plebs with not enough data to assess properly the situation and win an argument out of it.

What does it means twice as powerful ?

Once again, I could use the same arguments you did for Mendes, but in Conor's favor here. I don't think it add anything to the debate about the Khabib fight.

Nobody calling you out on this, fine.

As was Conor...

No comments.

Seeing a trend here.

lol

And my time is up, nothing wrong rooting for Khabib tho, just calling you out because you are a hater, and thats wrong.

I like Conor in the fight, but I can see it going either way.

People have the misconception about Conor that he's bad on the ground and gets gassed easily. The only times I've seen him gas are vs Diaz and Floyd Mayweather. The Mayweather fight was a different sport and longer than any MMA match so that's understandable. Diaz gasses everyone and is a cardio machine, and Conor gassed Diaz too so I saw that as a positive.

Why do people think Conor is so bad on the ground? He's a BJJ brown belt, and the only person that outclassed him on the ground was Diaz - which makes sense because he's a BJJ black belt and he's supposed to. Ya, Mendes took him down a few times, but he mainly just stayed in Conors closed guard. When he passed, Conor escaped and when he tried to get a submission, Conor turned it into a scramble and ended up standing up/finishing him.

Khabib hasn't fought anyone really tough so I don't really care that he's undefeated. I think a lot of the BJJ guys - particularly the Gracie BJJ guys who specialize off of their backs - would beat Khabib.

no offense, this is insane. its 2018, its almost impossible to win fights from your guard against good top game players, and khabib is barely ever even in full guard.

I didn't know Gray Maynard was still alive. That's exciting.

All Gracie BJJ guys can finish from their guard (Brian "T City" Ortega has his nickname from it), but that's besides the point. Having a good closed guard is about not taking much damage/not allowing your opponent to pass. How often Khabib is in guard isn't relevant to how good Conor's ground game is. He showed a high level X guard sweep vs Diaz, and a unique submission escape vs Mendes. He has passed to mount and finished a fight before. There is nothing shabby about his ground game that I've seen, and every time people say a good wrestler is going to beat him, he knocks them out.

Edit: just noticed you didn't quote my whole post, now the Khabib thing in closed guard makes a lot more sense. Still, half guard, quarter guard, and being able to sweep are all super valuable vs him.

Not sure if you trying to prove a point...or back yourself up !
all the thing you just said is either inaccurate or false lol
you know there's no shame to be behind and learn loll
look at joe pulaski game's..he slowly improving by not lying to himself

Was my bet of Conor to win 5 round decision @+900 throwing money away?

I hang out with a lot of BJJ blackbelts, and MMA guys this is essentially an echo of things they say.

I wasn't trying to suggest that people pull guard vs Khabib. I just said people that were dangerous from the bottom would beat him. They can sweep and threaten a lot more which wouldn't let Khabib do his thing imo.

Do you think Khabib has a god-level chin and Conor's TDD is good enough that Khabib can't take him down at will? Because that's what you're betting on, Conor to keep the fight standing AND not finish him. In my opinion it's the least likely option outside of Conor sub, not really a fan of it in a 5 rounder - if it goes the distance it's far more likely to be a Khabib UD.

I'm considering Conor ITD +185ish, u2.5 rounds (or maybe i'l buy a round and take u3.5 but it's a lot of extra vig so idk) and if I change my mind and decide to play Khabib i'll take him straight up, but only if the odds improve a bit not laying -160. If it's -120 or something i'll consider backing Khabib though, I think Khabib is a tiny fav in the fight but considering Conor almost always wins by TKO when he wins there's a chance I may end on on a Conor ITD type prop. I don't think either guy is going to **** around here if they have an advantage they're going for the kill, not only do they both hate each other but I think they both fear what the other brings to the table, in that they are both the best in the division specifically at exploiting the other's biggest weakness (Khabib's striking defense and Conor's TDD and submission defense)

I'm not going to argue with a ******, you are right!

yep it's super easy to sweep Khabib

worked out perfectly for RDA

he can control current UFC HW champion from the top, but a random 155 black belt can sweep him? okay then