Great post! shows why Ali truly is the greatest of all time.

Most fighters would do just about anything to get a world title, Ali gave it all up to keep his dignity and (self)respect.

But don't really see the similarities between both fights, I feel the hype is not yet here, to little news and development going on. Stylistically, skill wise and looking whats at stake, this is definitely a HUGE fight. We just need a press conference and a face off ASAP IMO to get things going and really reach 'fight of the century' status.

For what it's worth I think Ferguson ends Pettis; Pettis would need to catch Ferguson early the way Lando caught him. I think if Pettis wins it's via r1 KO, I think Ferguson's going to finish him late in the second or early in the third in a war of attrition. I do see the appeal since it's likely to be contested standing in Pettis as a dog, but I think at this point in their careers Ferguson is just better everywhere, and especially if the fight goes into deeper waters. Feels like a waste to only be 3 rounds though, but you need a Ferguson fight on this card in case Conor or Khabib pulls out as Ferguson vs either of them for a belt is a money fight too. I feel like it starts off competitive, but as the fight goes on Ferguson will get stronger and Pettis weaker.

As good as Suarez is I don't think Esparza is +4xx or higher against anyone really at 115 so might make a small play there closer to the fight

Kind of tempted by Price and Dodson as small dogs and Karolina in the +3xx range on the next card

I think I like u2.5 rounds for Conor/Khabib more than either side maybe although I might pay for u3.5 rounds if it's only a moderate price difference

Not sure at what point I back Nicco against Valentina, but if it gets above +1000 I might have to just because lolwmma even though it's a mismatch on paper.

I like Esparz too. I thought Gaedlha would wreck her but she impressed me in that fight.
Took her at 5.00 already.

Tempted to take fight finishes inside the distance. Huge difference in ability and I really think Montano will be lost on her feet especially as the fight goes on and she starts to gas. Can get 1.8 which beating 5dimes price by a pretty big margin.

Bummer Benoit got injured, I liked him. Also bet on Abdul at -150 vs Price and a small bet on the artist formerly known as Jim Miller because I think he might have a little bit of lead left in his pencil and because Alex White just isn’t that good technically (although the kid’s got the heart of a lion.) Plus I like lighting money on fire, lol.

same, her mma game is really greedy...

So far for UFC 228 I have 2u on Frank Camacho +155, 2u on Lucie Pudilova +105, 1u Diego Sanchez +190, 2.6u on Aljamain Sterling -130 & Montano/Shevchenko starts round 3 at -165 to win 1u. Also 2u on Darren Till at +100. Wish the total for the main event was not set so high at 4½ because I like the over. Couple of point spreads appeal to me too- Frank Camacho +3½, Diego Sanchez +3½ points. Also like Niko Price at +125.

I'm on Woodley -105. Also WTB time to work on MMA stuff.

i dont have any opinion on woodley/till. i can see both guys getting ko'd. i can see till jabbing and having success with woodley on the fence. i can see woodley employing a successful grappling heavy game. but i most likely see a close decision where nobody knows who won until the fight cards are read. you guys are braver than me for trying to handicap this fight.

on that note just put a smallish bet on woodley when it spiked to +125

i have woodley ,andrade ,alhassan (too fast ) ,sterling ...not going the distance on bird,stewart...esparza she's greedy mma savvy i like her chance, white ( probably got this favorable matchup because he took magny on short notice...,sanchez is done imo,shevchenko by finish thats it

So after the face off w Woodley and till it’s pretty clear till looks sick and apparently still has 8 pounds to cut, loaded up 5 units on Woodley..

hes 182 already dry in the post-fight workout...a lightheavy cutting down to 170

Where did you see that?

Good Googly moogly man...jesus christ

i watched it Til doesnt look sick lol. just looks gaunt AF and even woodley looks small. they both look like they cant lose much more weight

they both cut an absurd amount of weight because they are heavily muscled.

I doubt Woodley can fight a heavy grappling based 5 rounder, he'll likely be gassed by the 3rd.


I'd be shocked if Till doesnt finish Woodley. If you study Woodley's fights, 1 thing becomes very clear and that is he needs lots of time to recoup once he has done 1 of his sprint attacks.

If you look closely, he will faint the take down or the right hand but never commit, as he is too busy getting his tank filled, Dan Hardy pointed this out and I think it's true too. If Till knows this, Woodley becomes a lot less dangerous, as Till should know that anything after the 1st attack is a bluff and he should walk him down and not give him any breather, thats how you beat Woodley

Woodley will have 2 choices after that, either he takes the beating and fills his gas tank or he does another attack but then will probably be done, thats why you see so many guys tee off on him, when he's up against the cage.

Now think what Till is going to do to him as a muay thai specialist, with a lot more power than Condit, Rory and WW. He's a smart fighter too, I'm pretty sure they will game plan this perfectly and tire Woodley out, Wonderboy made massive mistakes by letting Woodley dictate the pace of the fight, I think Till will be much more active and will walk him down much more.

Expect a finish in the 3rd or possible 4th, if they game plan like I think they will.

Yeah I agree on the weight thing, Woodleys price keeps going up and up, if till makes championship weight and looks dreadful, I’m gonna load up more on Woodley, really think if threatens with takedowns in the first round it will set up the big right hand in the second and still!

Giving the Till vs Woodley fight a miss, although at current odds would be more inclined to back Woodley.

So far got £30 on Esparza at 5.7 (Backed on Exchanges)
£200 on Price at 2.2
£150 on Camacho at 2.7

Going to get Esparza, Price and Karolina

Also going to load as much as I can on Karolina/Andrade FOTN +1200 at one of my locals. Utter insanity, it's a main card fight, with both fighters having a history of FOTNs, Dana loves women and the other womens main fight will be a beatdown if it happens, and if Karolina can stuff Andrade for a bit it could be a war. The only other fight with potential to be 'good' on the main card is Price vs Alhassan and I might take some there too if I can get a good price. Zabit fight likely to be too one sided altho possible, comain is a beatdown if it even happens, main is likely to be either over fast or a staring contest for large parts of it and undercard fights don't tend to win FOTN unless amazing and nothing stands out for it as a fight that's going to be amazing

Weird prop but I managed to get 500 on it, can't complain even though nothing huge this card.

Also went small on Esparza, Price and Karolina, Price I think is a small fav, and I just like the prices on Esparza and Karolina

My card (****ty aussie prices because small bets this card and cbf sorting out for offshore people to bet for me)

KK +340
Esparza +380
Price +105
KK/Andrade wins FOTN +1200

Went relatively small this card although would pick up a nice bink if FOTN hits

got really big bet on aljo at avg ~140. small bet on jim miller, will add to it if theres signifcant late movment to like 150+, got small bet on woodley. That's pretty much my card, gonna take a look at over/unders today. i don't really see how carla or karolina can win so i chucked a parlay on zabit andrade and tatiana but thats not very big and kinda just for a sweat on a boring card. tatiana is really really good and should out horsepower carla with ease.

I'm not adding to my position since I got Till at such a good price, but I would be really surprised if he loses this on points. He's so much taller than Woodley and is such a skilled striker, I think he can have a lot of success by carefully pressuring Woodley backwards and picking him apart from range. I also think that sidekick to the knee that he flashed against Wonderboy will work well for him in establishing his distance and making Woodley pay if he tries to bullrush him.

Woodley's strengths are that he has massive power in his hands and he's impossible to take down. You can't brawl with him because he hits too hard (as Robbie Lawler found out) and you can't take him down and submit him (as Demian Maia found out), but what you can potentially do is pick him apart from range. Wonderboy wasn't quite able to do this, but Wonderboy doesn't have Till's strength, size, and power, so Woodley was able to aggressively counterattack against him in a way that would be very dangerous for him if he tries to bullrush Till.

I think it's going to be a close (and possibly boring) fight, but I personally don't see Woodley winning this absent a one shot KO, which could certainly happen.

till took entire rounds where he barely threw a single thing vs wonderboy. i don't see how he's gonna pick woodley apart with ranged strikes ala Rory. rory never really committed to anything but just constantly peppered woodley with kicks and punches he didn't really put everything on. till has either fought really aggro pressure style, or been super low volume range striker. hes either all the way out which is where nobody can land, or hes all the way in where woodleys counter strikes are a problem. maybe i'm wrong but i just don't see till easily picking woodley apart. i mean for as boring as that wonderboy fight was, i don't think anyone really thought till won. he's not going to have a super partisan liverpool crowd behind him going crazy every time he throws something into woodleys guard.

Basically i think they're gonna be looking at each other a bunch and woodley absolutely has the chance to land the harder strikes in a low volume affair and bank rounds. plus who knows how good till's grappling is.

yea if i back woodley its going to be a TKO/KO prop for a little bit o money

im going to get him +1200 tko/ko and +1600 ko/tko for rounds 1 and 2. if it goes longer its going to swing against him imo, till by judges or tko/ko 2nd/3rd round not bad either +300 and +700/+1100 for those.


ill wait TILL (haha) the last minute to decide wut side im gunna pick

I don't see how Nicco Montano doesn't get stripped.....

Main event should be fun.....but what's more likely? Boring fight or KO?