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08-27-2018 , 03:05 AM
Caught up on all the finishes I missed, crazy Yahya is 10-2 in his last 12 in the UFC with one NC and is still fighting nobodies on the prelims. I get that he's 33 and unlikely to ever beat top 15 guys, but he should get one more shot at a top 15 guy next fight

Gall just dominated from the start we need to see whether he's improved how he reacts when hit to see where his potential is he'll continue to beat people with bad TDD but when he comes up against a striker with decent TDD we'll find out how much he's improved

Vick's bad defensive habits caught up with him like I thought they might and Gaethje earns another shot at a legit contender.
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08-27-2018 , 03:44 PM
CM Punk lasted longer against Mickey Gall than George Sullivan and Mike Jackson did, combined.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Gall
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08-27-2018 , 04:17 PM
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CM Punk got beat up longer against Mickey Gall than George Sullivan and Mike Jackson did, combined.
For accuracy's sake.
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08-27-2018 , 07:56 PM
"crazy Yahya is 10-2 in his last 12 in the UFC with one NC and is still fighting nobodies on the prelims"

And the 2 guys he lost to in that stretch have gone a combined 0-5 in the UFC since beating Yahya. He loses just often enough to avoid getting matched up with opponents that would likely smash him.

It's been a strange run for sure for a guy who had been matched up with Korean Zombie (Zombie pulled out) and Poirier (Yahya pulled out) then got thrown in against Chad Mendes after losing 2 out of 3 (vs Benavidez, Mizugaki and Mike Brown).
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08-28-2018 , 11:50 AM
Woodley now at 1.93 on the betting exchanges.
Pretty tempted by that given that we haven't seen Till put on his back yet or face an elite wrestler.
But the market does seem to love Till as seen when he got hammered in against Thompson.

Interested what other people think?
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08-28-2018 , 02:24 PM
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Woodley now at 1.93 on the betting exchanges.
Pretty tempted by that given that we haven't seen Till put on his back yet or face an elite wrestler.
But the market does seem to love Till as seen when he got hammered in against Thompson.

Interested what other people think?
I jumped on Till at +125, think he’s probably about a 55% favorite.

I don’t really see Woodley as an offensive wrestler who double legs people and looks to GNP, I see him as a defensive wrestler who uses his TDD and big right hand to win fights. I think that works to a point but I also think Till is a better striker who is comfortable working from range and a tough matchup for him. That having been said, Woodley is smart and certainly could look to implement an offensive wrestling game, but if he were inclined to do so you would think he would have done that against Wonderboy.
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08-28-2018 , 04:08 PM
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I jumped on Till at +125, think he’s probably about a 55% favorite.

I don’t really see Woodley as an offensive wrestler who double legs people and looks to GNP, I see him as a defensive wrestler who uses his TDD and big right hand to win fights. I think that works to a point but I also think Till is a better striker who is comfortable working from range and a tough matchup for him. That having been said, Woodley is smart and certainly could look to implement an offensive wrestling game, but if he were inclined to do so you would think he would have done that against Wonderboy.
I like this post. Woodley likes to "fight smart" and rely on big counterpunch situations against opponents that have him outmatched standing up. I think Woodley is a sharper stand up fighter than Till, but Till's size and range is going to be too much for the Woodley standing. I see Woodley getting out of his range and circling his weak side until he can position Till with his back 2-3 feet or less from the cage. I can see a KO from Woodley just like the one Gaethje put on Vick. I wouldn't probably only bet this fight on good odds for the Woodley KO 1st or 2nd round.
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08-29-2018 , 01:19 AM
I've been pretty low on Till and Woodley compared to most, I have no idea what to make of the fight. I think i'm cheering for Woodley for the fight time in his title reign because Till rubs me the wrong way and is also way to big for the weight class and disrespectful to his opponents by constantly missing weight, i'm not even convinced he makes 170 for the title fight or if he does will always be worried he misses weight as champ unless he decides to lose some muscle mass

I know he's a bigger draw than Usman but still crazy to give him a title shot when he's missed weight by 4 and 6 lbs in the last two of his last four fights. I was really impressed by his performance against Wonderboy even though i'm not sure he won the fight if not for hometown judging, but then again i'm not sure Woodley clearly beat WB either time too under 10 point system despite 'winning the fight as a whole'

Woodley would be smart to counterpunch and mix in offensive takedowns against Till I think. Kind of tempted by Woodley but there is a big size difference.

I think I like Karolina at +3xx, Andrade will probably ragdoll her but if she doesn't Karolina is mentally strong and great on the feet.
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08-30-2018 , 12:32 AM
I like Till to win by KO, but he said he would KO WB too and then he came out playing the chess game, so i will not be surprised if he does similar against Woodley.

Still like him to win either way, if he game plans this correctly, he should tire Woodley and find a finish, many fighters making a big mistake vs woodley by not making him work in the 1st 2 rounds. Thats key vs a guy like him, make him work, make him wrestle you and by the 3rd round he's gassed.

I'd be surprised if Till doesn't either KO him 5 round control him.

Tills smart and hungry, he's huge too and can fight a point style fight at range, if he follows suit like how WB and Mcdonald fought him, they basically picked him apart and had him pressed against the cage a lot.
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08-30-2018 , 12:51 AM
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I like Till to win by KO, but he said he would KO WB too and then he came out playing the chess game, so i will not be surprised if he does similar against Woodley.

Still like him to win either way, if he game plans this correctly, he should tire Woodley and find a finish, many fighters making a big mistake vs woodley by not making him work in the 1st 2 rounds. Thats key vs a guy like him, make him work, make him wrestle you and by the 3rd round he's gassed.

I'd be surprised if Till doesn't either KO him 5 round control him.

Tills smart and hungry, he's huge too and can fight a point style fight at range, if he follows suit like how WB and Mcdonald fought him, they basically picked him apart and had him pressed against the cage a lot.
united kingdom?
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08-30-2018 , 12:42 PM
I like me some Anthony Pettis at +245 vs Ferguson. Ferguson is coming off a significant injury and Pettis looked really good against Poirier (even though he lost, Poirier is elite and it was a very competitive fight) and Chiesa. Those are big odds.
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08-30-2018 , 06:20 PM
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Bazigit Ataev (+165) vs Sean O'Connell $100.00 for $165.00
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08-31-2018 , 04:54 AM
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I like me some Anthony Pettis at +245 vs Ferguson. Ferguson is coming off a significant injury and Pettis looked really good against Poirier (even though he lost, Poirier is elite and it was a very competitive fight) and Chiesa. Those are big odds.
Odds look pretty good but Ferguson is a nightmare match up for Pettis. Super durable, can push the pace, uses his reach well. I love Pettis but doesn't fight well when guys can stick on him and not allow him to set up his striking.

However being 3 rounds is probably an advantage for Pettis and then when you add the knee injury alongside that. You might be right. Think Pettis would probably need a finish though tough to see him winning on points.
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08-31-2018 , 02:28 PM
Petits only finishes guys with one foot out the door. I would take Ferguson coming out of a 1 year coma in this fight.
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08-31-2018 , 07:48 PM
yeah don't think pettis will win. i don't think you necessarily have to bet tony coming off the injury but its fine to just leave some fights be.

sick card for me last one. maxed out anders on open cause i knew that line was going move hard towards -800. ended up letting it ride when it went to -1250 and i had it at -520. super scary fight. ended up a bit cause of johnson which i guess was a lucky break. tough fight to score im fine with it either way. lost the hill decision too which i thought was more obvious than the mj/fili. also bet alves, thats about as wrong as i've been on a fight. if anyone listens to heavy hands, which i recommend, they nailed it on talking about fighters going up and having more success striking because they have better relative speed. really though krause was just going to get outmuscled and beat up ala the sultan aliev fight. fair play to krause, he looked phenomenal and i wasn't too big on alves. slight win overall. nailed gaethje and figeuriedo. lost faria and sanders though betting faria was obviously printing money. i had alcantara on one of my tabs, don't really know what to say on that one. sandhagen is a savage.

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08-31-2018 , 11:02 PM
its pretty cray how big Till is standing next to Woodley. he looked a weight class bigger lol, simply massive. i wonder what the reach advantage is, its gotta be significant.

Woodley always dangerous but i dunnooooo i think the till hype train will reach its destination of belt station.
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08-31-2018 , 11:04 PM
woodleys legs are twice as thick tho
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09-01-2018 , 01:21 AM
The Fight of The Century


It's only one month from now. The fight of the previous century was Ali/Frazier 1. The build up and circumstances involving both fights are actually similar despite being different combat sports. In Ali you had a undisputed champion stripped of his title for refusing to take part in an imperialistic war for the benefit of wealthy racist Capitalists. This was a tremendous blow to the political establishment at the time as a common criticism of anti-war activists back then is that they didn't really believe in anything moral or decent as they claimed, it was simple cowardice that made them into peace lovers.


When the Heavyweight Champion of hand to hand combat took the same moral stance as hippies, even pro war fanatics didn't have the audacity to paint him as a coward, they just had to listen to what he said and rage silently in their physical and mental inferiority. Ali did his best to portray Frazier as an establishment Uncle Tom and largely succeeded despite Frazier not really having any love for strange white people. And there you had it, the stage was set for the counter culture revolutionary versus the corrupt guard of the establishment.


In Mcgregor/Khabib you don't have a political angle, but a spiritual one. This fight may be even more intriguing than Ali/Frazier as Ali had to manufacture Frazier as being a representation of the establishment. There is no need for Mcgregor to manfacture an identity for Khabib as he plainly represents the community focused non-secular "Without Allah all this is nothing" humility of the Middle Eastern world. And in Mcgregor we have the prideful materialist "The world is yours" representative of the secular Western world and its main ideals, conspicuous consumption, and fierce individualism. Which idelogy will win out? Will it be the will of God or the will of man that yearns to be God? I can't wait to find out! If Mcgregor wins I am going to spend my life indulging in hedonism and if Khabib wins I am converting to Islam.
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09-01-2018 , 01:52 AM
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Vick's bad defensive habits caught up with him like I thought they might and Gaethje earns another shot at a legit contender.
indeed, i think it just how well ufc promote fight's, all bet's on vick KO'ing gasthje was pure hype..in reality, vick had no chance on the feets !
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09-01-2018 , 02:02 AM
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also bet alves, thats about as wrong as i've been on a fight. if anyone listens to heavy hands, which i recommend, they nailed it on talking about fighters going up and having more success striking because they have better relative speed. really though krause was just going to get outmuscled and beat up ala the sultan aliev fight. fair play to krause, he looked phenomenal and i wasn't too big on alves. .
relative speed is one thing , We saw fully opted for x opponent's...game plan ,reach ,cardio volume ...speed!

honestly he couldnt done any better , well ^prepare beyond belief
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09-01-2018 , 01:11 PM
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The Fight of The Century


It's only one month from now. The fight of the previous century was Ali/Frazier 1. The build up and circumstances involving both fights are actually similar despite being different combat sports. In Ali you had a undisputed champion stripped of his title for refusing to take part in an imperialistic war for the benefit of wealthy racist Capitalists. This was a tremendous blow to the political establishment at the time as a common criticism of anti-war activists back then is that they didn't really believe in anything moral or decent as they claimed, it was simple cowardice that made them into peace lovers.


When the Heavyweight Champion of hand to hand combat took the same moral stance as hippies, even pro war fanatics didn't have the audacity to paint him as a coward, they just had to listen to what he said and rage silently in their physical and mental inferiority. Ali did his best to portray Frazier as an establishment Uncle Tom and largely succeeded despite Frazier not really having any love for strange white people. And there you had it, the stage was set for the counter culture revolutionary versus the corrupt guard of the establishment.


In Mcgregor/Khabib you don't have a political angle, but a spiritual one. This fight may be even more intriguing than Ali/Frazier as Ali had to manufacture Frazier as being a representation of the establishment. There is no need for Mcgregor to manfacture an identity for Khabib as he plainly represents the community focused non-secular "Without Allah all this is nothing" humility of the Middle Eastern world. And in Mcgregor we have the prideful materialist "The world is yours" representative of the secular Western world and its main ideals, conspicuous consumption, and fierce individualism. Which idelogy will win out? Will it be the will of God or the will of man that yearns to be God? I can't wait to find out! If Mcgregor wins I am going to spend my life indulging in hedonism and if Khabib wins I am converting to Islam.
I pray to God that none of this nonsense gets added in any way to the build up to the fight. Why bring controversial topics up when the fight can sell itself based on the 2 abilities of the fighters and Connor being Connor can add the insults.

Chael Sonnen said something very true when he said God doesn't look out for people in the cage.
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09-01-2018 , 04:37 PM
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yeah don't think pettis will win. i don't think you necessarily have to bet tony coming off the injury but its fine to just leave some fights be.

sick card for me last one. maxed out anders on open cause i knew that line was going move hard towards -800. ended up letting it ride when it went to -1250 and i had it at -520. super scary fight. ended up a bit cause of johnson which i guess was a lucky break. tough fight to score im fine with it either way. lost the hill decision too which i thought was more obvious than the mj/fili. also bet alves, thats about as wrong as i've been on a fight. if anyone listens to heavy hands, which i recommend, they nailed it on talking about fighters going up and having more success striking because they have better relative speed. really though krause was just going to get outmuscled and beat up ala the sultan aliev fight. fair play to krause, he looked phenomenal and i wasn't too big on alves. slight win overall. nailed gaethje and figeuriedo. lost faria and sanders though betting faria was obviously printing money. i had alcantara on one of my tabs, don't really know what to say on that one. sandhagen is a savage.
Fair enough. I certainly don't think Pettis is a lock to win, I just don't think he's a +240 dog against a guy coming off that kind of injury. I could very easily be wrong though, I just think I'm higher on Anthony Pettis than most in light of his performance against Michael Chiesa, who I expected to steamroll him.

Thanks for the Michael Johnson pick btw, made a few shekels off of that one ;-).

Here is my pending action for upcoming fights. I haven't had as much time to watch fights and do research recently, but for 2018 so far I'm 40-32 with a 22.78% ROI. Anyways, without further ado:

Aljamain Sterling at -110
Darren Till at average price of +119
OSP at average price of +160
Anthony Pettis at +240
Khabib at average price of -155
Derek Brunson at average price of +228

I have some time to watch tape this weekend so if anybody has anything they'd like to share, I'm all ears.
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09-01-2018 , 04:44 PM
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The Fight of The Century


It's only one month from now. The fight of the previous century was Ali/Frazier 1. The build up and circumstances involving both fights are actually similar despite being different combat sports. In Ali you had a undisputed champion stripped of his title for refusing to take part in an imperialistic war for the benefit of wealthy racist Capitalists. This was a tremendous blow to the political establishment at the time as a common criticism of anti-war activists back then is that they didn't really believe in anything moral or decent as they claimed, it was simple cowardice that made them into peace lovers.


When the Heavyweight Champion of hand to hand combat took the same moral stance as hippies, even pro war fanatics didn't have the audacity to paint him as a coward, they just had to listen to what he said and rage silently in their physical and mental inferiority. Ali did his best to portray Frazier as an establishment Uncle Tom and largely succeeded despite Frazier not really having any love for strange white people. And there you had it, the stage was set for the counter culture revolutionary versus the corrupt guard of the establishment.


In Mcgregor/Khabib you don't have a political angle, but a spiritual one. This fight may be even more intriguing than Ali/Frazier as Ali had to manufacture Frazier as being a representation of the establishment. There is no need for Mcgregor to manfacture an identity for Khabib as he plainly represents the community focused non-secular "Without Allah all this is nothing" humility of the Middle Eastern world. And in Mcgregor we have the prideful materialist "The world is yours" representative of the secular Western world and its main ideals, conspicuous consumption, and fierce individualism. Which idelogy will win out? Will it be the will of God or the will of man that yearns to be God? I can't wait to find out! If Mcgregor wins I am going to spend my life indulging in hedonism and if Khabib wins I am converting to Islam.
This post is gold.
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09-01-2018 , 05:06 PM
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09-01-2018 , 08:04 PM
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Virna Jandiroba (-285) vs Janaisa Morandin $570.00 for $200.00
Virna Jandiroba (-345) vs Janaisa Morandin ~$417.60 for~ $121.04
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