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06-10-2018 , 01:08 AM
Sick elbow counter by Whittaker after being rocked

Circle out, doesn't matter if you lose the round, go back to grinding on the outside
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06-10-2018 , 01:09 AM
this round is intense af

lol announcers , rob isnt even THAT hurt, no wobbly legs or anything
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06-10-2018 , 01:11 AM
Wow, round of the year, both guys rocked etc Whittaker with the elbow and head kick, but obv Romero won the round

Round 3 Romero always a beast hopefully Whittaker can recover inbetween rounds get back to the grind

29-28 Whittaker after 3. Romero really tired too which is good at least

Whittaker's corner needs to say stay structured, don't brawl and exchange from the outside not in close
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06-10-2018 , 01:12 AM
Whitakers hand is broken pretty sure
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06-10-2018 , 01:13 AM
ya it is for sure, unfortunte probably a chronic hand injury that now breaks easier
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06-10-2018 , 01:15 AM
Ugh annoying when Romero's the more tired of the two by a lot gives Romero a rest

Whittaker will be back to 100% now though too liking my UD prop again

Romero's corner should tell him use the full 5m even tho im sure he doesnt need it
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06-10-2018 , 01:21 AM
Hope that Romero didn't steal the 4th there but he didn't go down even though he was rocked so it should still be a Whittaker round because he outlanded him by 30 off shots

I have it 39-37 Whittaker, r4 only in doubt because of the last 20 secs

Good advice by Whittaker's corner to throw the right anyway because he's won 3 rounds, just be conservative throw the right not even to land but to keep Romero guessing and throw volume lefts and kicks

Fantastic fight overall
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06-10-2018 , 01:22 AM
my god this 5th round, poor bobby i hope he did enough and survives
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06-10-2018 , 01:24 AM
lol Yoel thinking he is gonna try to get a decision

you need to stand and KO him

wow romero let him win
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06-10-2018 , 01:24 AM
Could end up being a draw if r5 is a 10-8, but hopefully Whittaker holds on for the 48-47

Come on Whittaker survive

Crazy
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06-10-2018 , 01:25 AM
Yoel making a huge tactical error there grappling, should only be a 10-9 now he needed the 10-8 for the draw or a finish
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06-10-2018 , 01:27 AM
I have it 48-47 Whittaker, but 47-47 wouldn't be the biggest robbery ever. Pity I have unanimous and not straight up decision now, but hopefully the judges see it 48-47. Yoel got knockdowns in 3 and 5, 3 can't be a 10-8 because Whittaker stunned him twice too, and i'm not sure Yoel did enough for a 10-8 in the 5th because it was just the one knockdown

48-47 or 47-47 both fine scores imo

Obv if Whittaker didn't break his hand he wins easily
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06-10-2018 , 01:27 AM
What an idiot grappling there, he probably wins if he just keeps striking

Whittaker was done
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06-10-2018 , 01:29 AM
What the actual **** at a 48-47 Romero, two 10-8s, or did he give him r4 and 10-9s in 3/5?

Annoying I lose my UD prop, pity I didn't take straight decision but don't regret it. Small profit for the fight.

Whittaker thinks he was knocked down in 4/5 not 3/5, totally out of it but so much heart to survive

Great fight, obviously both guys deserve FOTN for that and clearly the two best in the division atm
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06-10-2018 , 01:32 AM
How insane is it Romero managed to do as well as he did when he looked done after two rounds with a swollen eye, I guess Whittaker being unable to use his right hand helped but still. Both guys are warriors what a fight.

Rare you want a trilogy fight when one guy wins both but i'm ok with it in this case, although not straight away give Whittaker a fight with Gastelum and make Weidman vs Romero 2 for #1 contender

Just realised 10-8s in 3/5 would be a 47-46 for Romero, so it has to have been no 10-8 rounds, and just a judge giving Romero r4 because he landed two nice shots in the last 30 secs which is obv terrible judging given Whittaker outlanded him by 30 off sig strikes in that round and didn't get dropped.

I think it's a 48-47 Whittaker and the only other justifiable scorecard is 47-47 if you give a 10-8 fifth.

Rogan being very generous saying two 10-8s potentially when Whittaker rocked Romero twice in the same round in 3, yes he took a ****load more damage but he landed a clean head kick and rocked him with an elbow, you can't lose an 8-10 when you rock your opponent twice even if you take heavy damage the rest of the round

I am surprised no judges gave r5 a 10-8 since it was 50/50, but the only wrong score for a round was the judge who gave r4 to Romero

Rogan is a nutcase saying that r5 is the most clear cut 10-8 ever, he dropped him, landed some weak GnP and the rest of the round was even, unless EVERY round where a guy gets dropped is a 10-8.

Argument for a 10-7 Anik? He's on crack, there wasn't even a clear 10-8. Amazed a bunch of people seemed to score r4 for Romero on his last 20 seconds when he was hugely outlanded. Lots of draws on media cards and slightly more Romeros than Whittakers is interesting I might need to rewatch R4 at some point I know Whittaker got rocked but he didn't go down.

I guess with those media scorecards i'm slightly lucky to get out of the fight and the card with a small profit

Fan poll so far has it 30% Whittaker 29% Romero 41% draw.

Last edited by SwoopAE; 06-10-2018 at 01:42 AM.
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06-10-2018 , 01:33 AM
close ****in fight, yoel is always live even in 4th 5th round lmao
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06-10-2018 , 01:43 AM
I was so close to firing a hedge on Romero wins in r3

In the future if I ever fade Romero i'm just going to fire that hedge even today he nearly got his traditional r3 ko and he would have against a ton of guys
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06-10-2018 , 05:17 AM
In a rd1 fight is there a fighter in the world besides Romero you'd want your money on?

At 40 what a beast... imagine him at 25... undoubtedly the greatest MMA fighter of all time.
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06-10-2018 , 07:47 AM
Disappointed I missed. Kiiinda tilted it almost looked like Jackson didn't want to finish Brooks. I thought I had it there when Jackson hurt him like a minute into the first round.
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06-10-2018 , 10:44 AM
Do you guys really think Bobby Fists won? I was watching the PPV with friends and was ****faced so maybe I missed something, but I thought Romero clearly won Rds 3-5. Too bad because it would have been an amazingly good card for ne if I’d hit on him. Then again I got lucky with Till the other week so whatever, you win some you lose some.
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06-10-2018 , 12:19 PM
I though it should have been 47-47 tbh. Don’t see how you get to 48-47 Romero though but lots of people had it scored that way online.
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06-10-2018 , 12:29 PM
Shoutout to Coulter/delaroche for being the most fun fight of the night. I was watching with my brother who’s not really a ufc fan and we were howling laughing during the second round. Delaroche being too tired to ground and pound from the mount was something else.
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06-10-2018 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Malachii
Do you guys really think Bobby Fists won? I was watching the PPV with friends and was ****faced so maybe I missed something, but I thought Romero clearly won Rds 3-5. Too bad because it would have been an amazingly good card for ne if I’d hit on him. Then again I got lucky with Till the other week so whatever, you win some you lose some.
He very clearly did not win round 4. You could argue he edged it if you value big shots over volume shots. He did land the 2 biggest punches of the round, but he also got lit up for 4 minutes and didn't drop Whittaker in that round.

Whittaker outlanded Romero 34-20 in significant strikes for the round and landed most of those strikes a lot cleaner, he just ate the two biggest shots of the round in the last minute. Depends how you score the round. If Whittaker had gone down i'd have scored the round for Romero but because he didn't I don't think those two punches are quite enough to overcome 4 mins of better effective striking - he was the aggressor, threw 50 extra strikes and landed 14 extra strikes overall. If you think Romero edged it fair enough but it certainly wasn't a clear Romero round.

Crowdsourced scores from mmadecisions (how the public scored it)

ROUND 1
10-9 Whittaker 96.4%
10-8 Whittaker 3.6%
ROUND 2
10-9 Whittaker 98.5%
10-10 Draw 0.8%
10-9 Romero 0.8%
ROUND 3
10-9 Romero 83.0%
10-8 Romero 14.0%
10-9 Whittaker 2.8%
ROUND 4
10-9 Whittaker 76.6%
10-9 Romero 17.8%
10-10 Draw 4.8%
ROUND 5
10-8 Romero 56.6%
10-9 Romero 41.9%
10-8 Whittaker 0.8%

Overall - 33% Whittaker, 28% Romero, 39% draw

So that's what MMA fans as a whole think, at least those who visit websites, although clearly a couple percent of people are ******ed with some of the scores above for certain rounds, obviously Adalaide Byrd's online scorecard was 10-8 Whittaker, 10-9 Romero, 10-9 Whittaker, 10-9 Romero, 10-8 Whittaker.

I personally think 47-47 is a 'fair' scorecard but I scored it 48-47 in real time and I think I stand by that. Scoring the fight as a whole a draw is pretty fair and under pride rules I guess Romero 'won' via 2 knockdowns, although Whittaker closed his eye up and landed more sig strikes over the fight as a whole.

R5 was super borderline and 50/50 10-9 or 10-8, it comes down to whether dropping someone alone constitutes a 10-8 in an otherwise close round - R3 Romero did a ton more damage and it would have been a 10-8, but Whittaker rocked him twice as well so it can't be because it wasn't a dominant round as both guys landed significant offense even if one fighter clearly did more damage.

At the end of the day a draw is probably the fair result, but I think the only ways to 'correctly' score the fight are 48-47 Whittaker and 47-47 depending on your definition of a 10-8.
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06-11-2018 , 02:10 AM
Thoughts on a line for Woodley/Covington?

I think T-Wood is around -180 there, maybe slightly higher but that seem about right. I just feel like Woodley is too strong and good of a grappler for Cov to relentlessly pressure the way Cov was able to do with RDA. That was an ideal matchup because of his size.

And Woodley has way more power and should be able to connect eventually. Just seems like a fight that is going to be standing.

That will be most hyped fight in WW division since GSP days and Covington is the reason why. So as much as he sounds like an idiot with his trash talk, atleast he is selling fights and getting casuals more interested.
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06-11-2018 , 02:20 AM
Colby did well to realise becoming a hated heel is an easier way to become a draw than becoming a beloved fan favourite, especially when you're a wrestler

I think Woodley is about -200 vs Covington, but will open about -170 to -180.

Ngannou around -300 vs Lewis, i'm hoping I can get Ngannou by KO at -1xx in a 3 rounder but doubt it. He's going to take Lewis's head off imo, Lewis lacks Stipe's striking defense.

Nothing stands out to me on the fight night card, but looking forward to 226. I might take DC if his price keeps drifting towards +300, Stipe is rightfully fav but I make him more like a -200 fav. Obviously going to smash Holloway too, I don't think Ortega wins a single second of the fight, he basically needs a flash sub on the feet or for Max to make a serious mistake which imo is only going to happen 1 in 4 or 5 fights. I expect a brutal one sided beatdown for Holloway, but i've gone on about how overrated and lucky I think Ortega is a ton, ye's he's an amazing finisher but he's always losing every fight until the finish and I can't see him finishing Max any way other than standing guillotine because I can't see him getting a takedown or a KO

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