Took some Wonderboy straight up in a pickem and some WB dec at +275. Obviously he won't get the nod if it's close, but I expect a lopsided decision if it goes the distance to the degree that the judges shouldn't be able to rob him. Till might gas and get finished but I expect WB to play matador and fight somewhat conservatively as long as he's winning easily so hopefully he just wins a lopsided 50-45. I plan to add more on straight up though got more on the dec prop so far. Might play WB by TKO/DEC instead of straight don't have an active b365 atm but the line there is very nice too on that prop and it's not like he's going to go for submissions vs Till any reasonable percentage of the time, seems like a 1%ish outcome.

Hopefully WB goes out there and whoops his ass

Definitely something needs to be done about the number of failed weight cuts. Those who went over the limit are 6-0 this year (Mackenzie Dern, Kevin Lee, Alex Perez, Yoel Romero, Michel Prazeres and Mads Burnell).

Something such as a representative of the athletic body goes in a day before just to check with fighters and make sure they are at least on track to be at the correct weight before the weigh-ins?

I mentioned back when Lineker was pulling the fake trying to make weight at 125.

If a fighter losses 20% of their fight purse for missing weight but wins the fight they've done well for themselves. Because they move up the ranks and put themselves in a position to fight the champ in 4 less fights time than if they had lost.

Example guys MMA record is 9-0 when he joins the UFC. If he wins his first 3 fights in the UFC then he's going to likely fight a top 10 opponent. If he wins that fight he could be already in line to fight a top 5 opponent and after that his next fight is either the champ or a face off with the other #1 contender for the right to fight the champ. A lot is dependant upon the division and where the UFC wants to take you..

But imagine that journey involved a single loss in his 3rd UFC fight. He'd have to win 3 more times easily to get another chance at a top 10 guy. That's a lot of time fighting for near peanuts. That 4 fights is 1.5 to 2 years of his life and that's 2 years less when you're the champ. 4 fights as the champ is a lot of money. Missing weight to ensure the win is the GTO method sadly.

fight is still on, even with the weight issues.

"Till has to be 188lbs or under. Two is that 30% of the purse is being forefitted to Wonderboy."

I am really looking forward to seeing this fight a lot.

Till is going to burn a lot of cardio in there, I would not ship bridge jump amounts on either fighter, if I had to it would be on wb tbh

I like the
the over 2.5
thompson rd 4

I agree with the soul read of till getting exhausted, for that to happen we are looking at the fight heading up past 2.5

till is a very dominate fighter in the cage, its going to be interesting to see the dynamic develop between these two fighters.

I think its reasonable to say if till doesn't get WB out of there inside Rd1, Rd2, then its WB by decision or stoppage, it would take it a bit further like 4th or 5th for the fight to deteriorate to the point Till can get ended.


WB straight up.
Till closing the show rd1, rd2
WB by decision.
over 2.5

these make sense to me.

till getting limited down to 188 may affect him a lot?, not sure what he weighed going into the cage last time from this cut to fight ? does he like to head in over 190?

Both of these fighters have a lot of fighter in front of them, but till has more of an artist in front of him, and wb has more of a brutal dog

we are all going to win with this one, this is going to be a cracking fight.

till is a very very strong thick guy, wb better be on his toes and fight a perfect fight for at least 3 rds else he is going to get absolutely ktfo

I am interesting in seeing the adjustments each fighter makes, till is crafty sob.

Glad they at least imposed some sort of penalty on Till making sure he has to weigh in at 188 on fight day, so no re hydrating to 200+ for him.

I'm trying to decide whether I want to take Wonderboy KO and effectively make my bet straight up or keep it decision weighted. Guess I can decide tomorrow.

I think 188 pounds of till is lighter and faster and could mean the first round will be even more frantic, also what was his previous weight when he stepped in with cerrone.

wounderboy is going to have to move like a butter fly touching that fine line to get away from till, he better bring those dancing shoes 0-0

this is going to be a battle, some one is most likely going to get starched badly.

good god another fail weight cut on purpose in key fight ! 6 - 0 this years for fighter that didnt make the weight ,now thats something to take in consideration !1 3,5 lbs over the limit loll did he try to cut those last 3,5 lbs ?
thats ridiculous !
the line move in favor of thompson either way lol
it just make it even more likely that if till win , it would be by ko in the first 2 rounds imo

Did they stipulate he needs both feet on the scale? What happens if Till weighs in at 191.5?

Sports books should start offering bets on fighter's weigh-ins.

just let the two men fight, till can give up 100% of his purse if he wants to weigh in heavy,

fights going to happen regardless,


that predictable left hand dependency will be the keys to wb win, even left hand heavy he can still win because of the solidness of his stature,

solid fight
predict wb will land the first full on blow but it wont budge till at all, then he will realize he is in with a wall of a man,

Really? I got scumbag vibe more from Nate than Nick.

In on WB at -120 tho, didn't get the +105 that was out there. Think he schools him but can't remember the last time I thought a line for a main event level fight was this off. I figured WB would be like -180 to -200 for this.

Not sure on the first part but I’ve tried to get odds on fighters missing weight before and Sky and Paddy haven’t offered odds on it.

Ended up on WB straight about -120ish and WB Dec at +275. Will win small if WB finishes him, big on a WB decision and a medium loss if Till wins.

Would have gone nuts on the WB line when it was briefly +110 but was too scared by the steam, now that it's headed back the other way i'm happy enough to fire but just a normal sized bet.

This is a prime candidate for a hometown robbery if the fight is at all close, but I can't see how it will be over 5 rounds unless Till lands the odd power shot but doesn't finish vs Wonderboy's volume. I expect WB to land on Till at will from range though and Till to walk through the shots until he either gasses and gets finished or loses a decision. Obviously Till's only chance is to head hunt, but Wonderboy showed a decent chin against Woodley even though he clearly doesn't like being hit much for a kickboxer I think his technique should carry him to a win, even if he has some sort of minor injury from that steam earlier in the week Till is unlikely to have recovered 100% from the weight cut given he has to weight in at 188 on fight day. They really should have made it 188 5 minutes before he walks out to the octagon though giving him a few hours to recover is very generous but he still won't be 100% and it's entirely his own fault for being unprofessional and trying to take too much of a size advantage into his first fight as a headliner. Plus no title shot for Till if he wins now, will have to win another fight. On merit WB deserves a shot if he wins this one, but I guess he needs to wait for Woodley to lose the belt or clean out the contenders first, if he wins this there are only 2 contenders left who could get a shot in front of him though, the RDA/Covington winner and Usman. I think Woodley loses the belt in one of his next two defenses more often than not though.

i made like 20 props aha
theodourou none to go to decision, vs 4 to 1 under.....he must finish that fight ! will see if he even try and how !
interesting stats , the thundercat 8 or 9 guillotine choke in the first round...because he's tall for this weight class..magny tall as hell too |

Darren Till weighs in at 187.2lbs. Has around six hours to recover prior to the scheduled 8:40pm GMT start time. Apparently he is normally around 200lbs.

https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/sta...10222204293120

Stephen Thompson weighs in again (no idea why) and comes in at 185.2lbs.

https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/sta...15795217944576

I will be rooting for the fight to finish inside the distance preferably Wonderboy. I don't care about Darren's excuse that a 'family emergency' cut into his weight loss regimen...you can put down the ribs, slices of cake and pints of cola whenever you want to.

too many variables for me in the wb/till fight. was gonna pull the trigger on wb as a dog but now im definitely out.

lol he's not fat he's just ****ing huge for welterweight. cue the im not fat im big-boned.

my card is theodorou, lansberg, allen, taleb, and mr. finland. gla.

theodorou is kinda scary at this price but i think he's going to win a closish/boring decision like 100% of the time. mayyyybe he can land a clean head kick but i doubt it. it's scary to lay -355 on a guy who doesnt know how to punch but hey this is the life we chose.


part of me wants molly mccann cause she missed weight and that should help her outmuscle the takedown attempts but she looks really bad sometimes and has fought really weak competition. i do think it's possible she's actually a lock in this fight, but i don't have a read on her ground game so i'll just pass. i do like the under 2.5 in that though, ko puncher vs a sub hunter, u2.5 rounds is +140.

Was referring to Darren's own admission.

https://twitter.com/5liveSport/statu...59111735824384
https://twitter.com/TeamFA/status/1000362772356567041

I did say he apparently iz normally around 200lbs (by Darren's own admission, it's 205lbs) and apparently he hasn't ruled out going all the way up to light heavyweight if need be.

https://twitter.com/SportsJOE_UK/sta...25203878096896

Darren Till apparently outweighed Donald Cerrone by around 20lbs walking into the octagon apparently. If I'd have known that, I'd have bet heavily on Darren Till.

That 'family emergency' was apparently an incident to do with his pregnant girlfriend.

https://twitter.com/Chisanga_Malata/...84517721542657

phew, not boring but kind of the slightly better everywhere type of win from theodorou, glad the first score was read 30-27, knew it was over then. what a grinding fight though, kind of scary he couldn't maintain the distance a little better.

UFN 130 Risk $3092.00

Stephen Thompson (+100) vs Darren Till $200.00 for $200.00
Stephen Thompson (-135) vs Darren Till $270.00 for $200.00
Stephen Thompson wins in round 3 (+1425) $20.00 for $285.00
Stephen Thompson wins in round 4 (+1900) $15.00 for $285.00
Stephen Thompson wins in round 5 (+2500) $15.00 for $375.00
Stephen Thompson/Darren Till Under 3½ (+102) $200.00 for $204.00

Neil Magny/Craig White Under 1½ (+102) $100.00 for $102.00

Arnold Allen wins by 3 round decision (+115) vs Mads Burnell $40.00 for $46.00

Jason Knight (-160) vs Makwan Amirkhani $160.00 for $100.00

Nordine Taleb/Claudio Henrique da Silva Under 2½ (+160) $100.00 for $160.00

Eric Spicely (-185) vs Darren Stewart $370.00 for $200.00
Eric Spicely (-190) vs Darren Stewart $380.00 for $200.00

Daniel Kelly (+295) vs Tom Breese $100.00 for $295.00
Daniel Kelly (+255) vs Tom Breese $100.00 for $255.00
Daniel Kelly (+185) vs Tom Breese $100.00 for $185.00
Daniel Kelly (+175) vs Tom Breese $100.00 for $175.00
Daniel Kelly (+155) vs Tom Breese $100.00 for $155.00

Lina Lansberg (-122) vs Gina Mazany $122.00 for $100.00
Lina Lansberg (-150) vs Gina Mazany $150.00 for $100.00

Carlo Pedersoli (-140) vs Brad Scott $140.00 for $100.00

Molly McCann (-245) vs Gillian Robertson $245.00 for $100.00

Trevor Smith +3½ points (-130) vs Elias Theodorou $65.00 for $50.00

Just WB and WB dec for me. Will tune in after the IPL final finishes, it doesn't seem like i'm going to miss anything of importance skipping the prelims

Took Wonderboy at 1.86 basically hedged all my arb profit on Thompson winning.
Also got Burnell at 3.3

Going to put a small bet on Kelly at 4.25 given how heavy Jim is on him. Was thinking the odds had gone a bit too far.

No idea what Lina Lansberg's gameplan is. Hold Gina Mazany against the fence and hope for the best? Use some knees or something not just try & take her to the ground, Lina!

After two rounds, it's probably 1-1. 1st to Lina & 2nd to Gina (just). Live betting at Bet365: Mazany 5/4, Lansberg 4/7.

30-27 (x2) & 29-28 to Lina Lansberg.

OFF-TOPIC: Apparently there are only two women's bantamweight fights inside the next eight weeks. Cat Zingano vs. Marion Reneau and Bethe Correia vs. Irene Aldana.

Lina clearly won 1-2 imo. 3 I honestly thought was probably for mazany but I’ll take it. Mazany isn’t a good athlete her whole game is built on overwhelming regional Alaska girls in the clinch. Not gonna work when lansberg is significantly stronger than her. That was an atrocious +140 on lansberg imo. Was a bit surprised she didn’t have clear range advantage though