one of the best post fight interviews

have frankie here but def some nerves feeling less sure about it.

Yeah I know hes low volume, it's probably legit and hes just a moron who was completely ignoring his corner in the third, but seriously that r3 lol tilt. I got it in bad and deserved to lose but still

Let's go Edgar!

Stick move and punch him in the face. That's the gameplan

Look how small he looks, oregta will end this itd.

DO NOT SHOOT FRANKIE JUST BOX HIM UP

If Souk had let O'Malley try to stand up in round 3 instead of taking him down repeatedly he would have gotten a TKO when O'Malley couldn't stand. No fight IQ. I can't believe this.

lmao did not see that coming. wow.

Oh ffs

That is so ******ed

My card is a disaster, went 1-4 and lost about 2.5 max bets

I can't believe that Brian ****ing Ortega is the first man to finish Frankie Edgar

Holloway is going to have a field day wrecking this clown. Ortega is the worst fighter. He has a sick killer instinct, but he is the ****ing worst. He lost every second of that fight until he finished it, yet again. Insane.

Last 2 days has been the 2nd biggest downswing ive had ever which is really tilting, and I was coming off a good run too.

Wow.. ko

Why would any one bet the snall guy in that fight guys?

He had no chance, it was like weight class above.

Yeah that was terrible So pissed at my bet too.

Whatta KO by Ortega wow.

that card was bad for me but could have been worse with johnson, dern, and o'malley. nice to have a break this week.

i hated my Ortega bet up until <10 sec before the finish.

He did look a full weight class bigger. Surprised Edgar got KO'd on his feet like that though, by a guy that KO's no one.

Poor Frankie, but I had a feeling Ortega was going to be too big & skilled.

Might sound crazy but just with in the first 10 to 15 seconds I knew the fight was already over, it was the distance between them, you do not want to be on a fighter that has to magically lunge in and land some thing big, it was all over with in 10 to 15 seconds.

That punch was like some thing broad shoulders Donovan Ruddock would throw, just beautiful.

I stand by my Frankie bet given he won every minute of the fight til the KO. I just had that sinking feeling that something would happen pre fight, but I think if they fought 10 times today Frankie would win at least 6. He's been fighting bigger guys his whole career etc he will win 95%+ of the time when it goes the distance, and while Ortega probably wins more often ITD usually if Frankie leaves his neck out there, I think today was just part of that 5-10% punchers chance to get the KO, i'm convinced Ortega wins by sub more than KO vs Edgar even after that.

If Holloway is anything under -200 I will be shoving the lot on him, with a small Ortega sub hedge. Ortega is sure as **** not going to do that to Holloway, and Holloway's punches will hurt where Edgar's just stung.

I'm all in on the fade Ortega train until he loses, I am convinced he is not as good as his record and nothing I saw today changes that. He is an amazing finisher i'll give him that (although as a roid cheat a lot of it's probably due to those gains, plus no guarantee he isnt still using) but he will lose every minute of every round against Holloway and his only chance is if Max leaves his neck out there, but he has good reach and movement.

I am going to enjoy every minute of Holloway beating the **** out of Ortega. I'm definitely down more fading Ortega than anyone else so far but im still convinced he's going to lose and soon

Steam crushed it on todays UFC card, discounting the main where Cyborg was unbackable fav, the fighter who steamed in late won every time except for Caraway and Dariush

Ii feel like u should def avoid Ortega fights.

Souk's teammate Rashad Evans expressed his frustration with Souk's bad fight IQ in round 3 on the post-fight show on FS1. Luckily I had some success on my other bets and I "only" lost just over $2,000 on UFC 222. I made nearly $1,000 on my Bellator, Glory and KSW bets combined this weekend however, so that takes some of the sting out of it. I'll find some plays for non-UFC fights next weekend.

Haha yeah easy enough to say that after the fact. Do you really think he beats Holloway? Because that's his next fight. He won't have the size advantage he usually enjoys for that one and his striking fundamentals are still absolute trash. I'll give him this, he's definitely got a puncher's chance and he could get Holloway's neck if he gets ahold of him, i'm not laying -300 or anything crazy like that but if Holloway is -165 or something which seems reasonably likely after today...

Holloway has only ever lost to Conor and Poirier in his debut as a rookie (he won the Bermudez fight pretty clearly imo and would wreck current Poirier and be more competitive against Conor than he was) and he gets better every time we see him. Granted Ortega does too, but Ortega can't casually eat shots for a round against Holloway the way he did against Edgar. Granted Holloway's wrestling is probably slightly weaker than Frankie's but he makes up for it by being bigger, rangier and hitting harder.

Ortega will lose, and he will lose badly and be embarrassed with extremely limited offense in the fight he loses, and people will wonder why they thought he was the next best thing. Ortega has slick grappling, some power and a great killer instinct but he's still got terrible striking and bad offensive wrestling. He's NEVER going to touch the belt and if he wins the belt via fluke sub he's not going to be a long term champion because he's incapable of winning a decision against any top 5 fighter.

Obviously I do have some bias since I dislike him as a fighter. I would not be surprised at all if he fails a second test for steroids one day plus he strikes me as incredibly disingenuous and fake the same way Faber is

Anyway, he's earned his title shot, he's reached the end boss and if he wins and defends his title i'll be the first to admit I was wrong and that he's the real deal

I think Holloway is going to embarrass him and make him look like he doesn't even belong in the Octagon with him. If i'm wrong, then Ortega is officially my anti-TJ Dillashaw (bet on TJ in 7 of his last 8 fights, and they're the 7 he won and against him vs Cruz so i'm 8/8 in his last 8) - i'm now 0-5 fading Ortega from memory, or 0-6 if I bet the Tavares fight which I can't remember whether I did or not. That said, all 5 of Ortega's last 5 opponents were in position to beat him. Brandao was up two rounds and just needed to survive, Moicano outstruck him easily, Edgar outstruck him and looked to be cruising until the combo that ended it, washed up Guida was 20-18 19-19 19-19 heading into the third and Swanson was beating him up on the feet until he got caught in the guillotine

Yeah, credit has to go to Ortega for getting those finishes and winning those fights, but I remember when Chris Weidman was 'unbeatable' and he actually looked in his wins.

If anyone with a lot of faith in Ortega thinks he's at the very least the #2 FW i'd happily bet he loses at least two of his next five fights at evens (which means even if he loses to Holloway that he's going to lose to someone else before getting another title shot most likely and if he beats Holloway he'd have to lose the title then one more fight in his next four)

Not much I like on the next card, might consider Edwards if the price is good but I don't expect it to be that great. Maybe Marshman, but not too excited about him either

Looking forward to 223 though and can't see any way that i'm not betting on Khabib, Rose and Chiesa. I don't think Pettis can stop Chiesa's takedown and both guys are good hang on the ground. I think Rose might be a stylistic nightmare for Joanna, she has more power than most WSWs as well as excellent grappling and above average takedowns. If it goes past three rounds Joanna will probably win, but I think Rose might stop her quickly again.

It's pretty rare to see a champ regain their belt in the rematch against the same opponent. By my count it's 5-8 for a fighter trying to regain the belt against the same opponent. After counting it, thats less bad than I thought it was for the ex-champ.

Successes - GSP vs Serra, GSP vs Hughes, Cain vs JDS, Sylvia vs Arlovski, Liddell vs Couture
Those that failed - Aldo, Anderson Silva, JDS, Edgar, Franklin, Newton, Arlovski, Penn

I guess since I started watching MMA regularly around UFC 200 the ex champ has gone 1-5 trying to win the belt back which makes it seem like less common than the 5-8 (assuming im not missing any) suggests. Interestingly I guess this also means in the pre UFC 100 era, fighters trying to win their belt back went 4-3 and since then have gone 1-5. Could be variance, or could be the MMA game is evolving faster than it used to. I might be missing a couple examples too but can't think of any.

It's hard to judge a bet after a fight like that. Obviously Ortega won decisively, but also nobody really predicted him to KO Frankie in the first, and Frankie wasn't doing poorly on the feet up until then. The one thing I can say 100% I didn't put enough weight on was the size difference. Gotten pretty used to seeing Frankie a bit smaller, but that looked like a weightclass at least! It really worried me when Ortega just shrugged off Frankies (i think it was two?) takedown attempts.

Glad I didn't double down on my Frankie bet once the line moved. Was definitely getting more and more worried I was wrong.

Exactly this! Surprised that people in here are so big in this guy, if you watched previous fights it would be no surprise that he does not land much at all and O Malley is way better everywhere! Easiest bet ever!

You're crying, when it fact you made a terrible bet, your only way out was some fluke broken leg, I really don't see how you think Souk had any chance and he clearly didnt as o Malley was dominating him everywhere.

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Told ya'll not to doubt Sugaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa