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Originally Posted by tikmassy
^^ I don't agree at all. I think Lee is a strong dude and he made quick work of Chiesa but Ferguson on a different level. What's Lee's path to victory here? Is he really going to out grapple or submit Ferguson?
We'll see, not that it can't happen but I think Ferguson is more well rounded and brings a ton more weapons to the table. Lee basically does a few things really well which is not a bad thing but it's likely not going to work against elite fighters.
With that being said if he is significantly stronger (which I have no evidence for) then that might be the deciding factor. It'll be almost impossible for the weaker yet more skillful all-rounder to fight off a guy that takes your back and chokes you out as a specialty. You can be as well rounded as you want to be but if a specialist like Lee who is just too strong to in the wrestling simply out-mans you for lack of a better word then I see Lee winning. But he's have to be a lot stronger, I don't think he does it with skill alone, I mean Ferguson isn't a dummy, he's one of the smartest fighters in the UFC.
Ferguson also has great standup and he puts a lot of pressure on guys, marching forward like he does. He eats every punch thrown at him and I haven't actually seen him flinch once. I read somewhere that Lee has trouble fighting walking back, I think a lot of fighters have that problem. Everybody that steps into that cage with Ferguson is fighting taking steps back, because he always comes forward, watch any of his fights.
I think Lee's got potential but he's still young so I don't think he beats Ferguson right now. We'll see, he might surprise me but I doubt it.
I really strongly agree. This is such a massive step up in competition, and Ferguson might be the most well rounded fighter in mma. I guess the argument for betting Lee is that Ferguson has been hit hard in two of his last three fights, but at the same time, his chin has held up so well. Even though it only lasted 7 or 8 minutes, his fight with barbosa was one of the best ive seen live when you consider how high level both of those guys are and how both could potentially knock the other out at any moment.
Roundtable on sherdog absolutely loved betting on Duquesnoy at -160, so i put one unit on him. Im going to the fights, so probably will find some other bets, even though Im in the same boat as Swoop with guys like Bobby Green probably getting too high of a price, but just having so many flaws at same time.