Doubled down at 1.34 on an Australian book. Take it down floyd

Fun, and McGregor did better than expected, but Floyd obviously still in full control. Hope you all won money too!

darn it only my under 10.5 paid out not the under 10 (obviously).

Decided to fire 500 on Struve @ 2.10, annoyed at myself for missing 2.30, I think he's a small fav and if he ends up at 1.95 or whatever by fight time which I think is likely i'd be annoyed missing getting my fav HW as a dog when I could have

No other bets for the upcoming card yet

So the only way the best boxer in the world beats an amateur mma champ is by fatigue? Well done!! Conor would beat him in a rematch lol.

No power shot by Conor, seems like a fixed fight, anyone agree? He was merely tickling Floyd.

Well you can be glad :-)

I had under 9.5 at betstars and they graded it as a loss even though it happened after 1 minute and 5 seconds in the 10th.
"It's a loss because it ended in the 10th round" - the grading department doesn't even know their own rules for the market.
Currently in the time consuming process of arguing with them :-(

What do mean, under 9.5 means if it ends up to rd 9 and less than 2.5minutes. It went into first minute or so the 10th.

For me to have won the under 10 would have needed end by end of rd 9.

In boxing betting, under 9.5 means 9 rounds plus a half round more. So that means the middle of the 10th round. It's explained in the rules. The under 9.5 won.

Yes, pretty much this. And they graded as a loss.
By their logic Under 0.5 boxing/MMA bets would always lose if the fight happens. :-)

Aside from the official rules on their website that are pretty clear there's also a page that explains it in more detail here:
http://www.predictem.com/boxing/over-under.php

Currently in the process of arguing with them, hope it gets resolved sooner rather than later as it's pretty time consuming.
I don't expect it to be resolved soon though because it's caused by incompetence not bad intentions.
If you catch a thief stealing he'll say "ah, sorry, it was an accident not on purpose here is your $$$ back."
If you catch an incompetent person stealing, he's actually convinced it's his money and won't understand WTF you are asking of him

I just contacted skybet, also paddy power.

My under 10 rounds was a losing bet, as originally thought, it went into the 10th round and hence not under 10 rounds.


I thought it might be possible to consider the under 10 rounds as meaning if the fight went into the 11th,... IE if the fight ended even in the last 10 seconds of the 10th round then my "under 10 rounds", would be a winning bet.

Skybet classifies it the way I original thought it to be, under ten gets paid out if it ends in the 9th etc.

It sounds like with some vendors (bookies) then the under 9.5 means round 9 and minute 1.5 it has to end under, which it didn't it ended in first few seconds of the 10th.

Didn't get that either. How can under 9.5 be a winner on a fight that went past the 10th round? An under 10.5 would indeed be a winner. But maybe I'm wrong as well.

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If you bet under 1.5 rounds at what point would the fight have to end to be under 1.5 rounds? I have that answer at half way through the second. If you say under 9 and a half rounds it would be half way through the tenth.

Well, my understanding was that in order for the under 1.5 rounds to be a winner the fight would have to end before 1 minute and 30 seconds of the first round. But I understand that the site posted above states otherwise.

Not sure if serious. Because if he didn't get that fatigue-induced TKO, he was still cruising towards a clear decision win.

As others have stated above - under 1.5 rounds pays if the fight ends before halfway through the SECOND round. As in one round, plus another half a round.

That's how combat sports totals ALWAYS work.

LOL nice, where'd you find that?

Best I ended up with was 1.31 on Ladbrokes just before fight time.

Didn't look fixed to me, Floyd is the best defensive boxer ever. Also no steam on r10 tko or anything specific. Conor actually exceeded my expectations the fight was a best case scenario for me, Conor looked like a million bucks having only boxed full time for six months against the GOAT winning 3 rounds on my card and lasting 10 rounds, the fight was competitive before his cardio started to go.

@Ozexorcist Ladbrokes (had an easy out on a friends acct) they peaked at 1.34 like 20mins b4 fight or so. I got a bunch down on Crownbet at 1.28 and 1.27 during fight week then doubled my bet at 1.34 just before the fight, also had a -135 TKO prop from centrebet's powerbet (although -130 was available by fight time and ubet briefly had -118 which I missed). I also missed my small prop on corner/doctor stoppage but made a nice profit for the fight, won about 23u for the fight overall.

I really enjoyed the fight it was a lot better than May/Pac and Conor saying 'of course' when asked if he would return to MMA was a big plus, granted he'll be getting a big pay increase and/or a piece of the company in order to do that but he deserves it and tbh if the UFC can sign him to a 10+ fight contract for a 3-5% stake in the company (20m per 1% according to the sale valuation so seems about right) or whatever it's probably worth it as he'll grow MMA by at least that amount with his profile and if he's an owner he has a vested interest to do what's in the UFC's best interest for the rest of his prime. If the UFC can lock him down for 10-12 fights that should see us through the rest of his prime and give us another 4-5 years of Conor fighting 2-3x a year against the top contenders which would be amazing for MMA and even if he loses the belt to Khabib (I think he beats Ferguson fairly easily I don't think Tony can get him to the ground to get the d'arce) he can always fight Woodley or GSP in superfights, there's the Aldo rematch at 155 even if it's not for the belt, etc. so there's always going to be somebody for him to fight. If he somehow gets through Khabib I don't think anyone else at LW is going to beat him in the next couple years out of the current crop of contenders.

The fight was clearly a win for MMA because Conor was competitive in boxing with the boxing GOAT but it was very clear Floyd would not have been competitive in kickboxing with Conor (he would have been TKO'd within the first few rounds) and in an MMA fight even less so (he wouldn't last a round)

I'd be kind of surprised if the UFC lets Khabib fight him - certainly not any time soon. Even though Conor has proved that a loss here and there hasn't hurt his drawing power, it'd be hard for him to look good in a loss to Khabib and they'd be worrying about a loss taking shine off Conor.

More than that though, they're obviously worried about Khabib making it to the fight without injuring himself or pulling out late or whatever.

This triple g v canelo is a really big dral in the boxing world, understabley its a true superfight, i think the opinon is triple g will win, i see it as going over 9rds, canelo is too good.

Every boxing fan in the world will be just iching to see this one olay out.

Is there any one strong opinon or betting strat ?

Khabib can be their draw in the Russian market if he wins and Conor could always fight Woodley or GSP after a redemption gimme fight to get himself back on track

I personally think he should be defending against the Ferguson/Lee winner next, he matches up pretty well with Ferguson, Ferguson has a nasty d'arce choke but is too hittable to beat Conor standing barring puncher's chance and isn't a nasty offensive wrestler; he's got excellent grappling but less of a top-heavy wrestling base which is what Conor will struggle with.

Khabib is obviously the most dangerous fight by far, but if he wins that he's starting to get in the conversation for GOAT at LW if he goes through Ferguson and Khabib after beating Alvarez and if he wins one or two more after that (let's say an Aldo rematch and a Diaz or Barboza win or someone) at that point the LW GOAT title is his - I mean it's not like any of Penn, Edgar and Bendo had a particularly lengthy reign at the top and Pettis and RDA and Alvarez certainly didn't. Conor could do it within two years if he stays active and keeps winning. Then again he's going to want UFC ownership shares or 20m+ a fight so we'll see what happens I guess. The UFC should probably give him 3-5% for a 10+ fight contract I think it'd increase the value of the company by enough to be worth it and it gives Conor incentive to grow the UFC brand plus sets him for life.

Khabib should have to fight and make weight one more time though before being given a title shot given he's missed twice. Ferguson or whoever beats him should get the next shot at Conor because Khabib had his chance but missed weight

On to the next card - i've already voiced my opinion that Struve is a small fav over Volkov and got on him as a small dog, but I want some sweats on the rest of the card and i'm struggling to figure out where to start. Struve having a height and reach advantage is going to be something Volkov isn't used to and if the fight goes to the ground Volkov is drawing dead unless he's drastically improved and i'm unaware of it and on the feet it should be close - Volkov has better technique, but Struve has more physical advantages. Struve also is fighting in front of his home crowd which hopefully is a big motivator and motivated/aggressive/focused Struve is a much better fighter than heart condition/mindset issues Struve. We know roughly what we'll get from Volkov here in an upper-mid level one dimensional striker, it comes down to which Struve shows up.

Wilkinson vs Bahadurzada is interesting. Siyar is a mid level MW and Wilkinson is an 11-0 Australian prospect who i've basically never heard of. Has anyone watched tape on him?

Edwards is legit but i'm not keen to fade Barbarena when laying -284 when he's king of upsets, Edwards has way more upside though and is a legit fighter who could easily be top 15ish as he matures.

I can't imagine Desmond Green is very live against Khabilov, although apparently he's an NCAA division 1 wrestler, I can't recall anything from his SD win over Emmett but it's a bit step up to Khabilov who is a legit top tier grappler with serviceable striking. Not super keen to lay -315 either though even though it's probably a good price.

No idea what to make of Velickovic/Till. I've seen both guys fight but have no useful read on it.

Holbrook might be value against Gouti maybe at -175? He got a gift win against Nijem and another against Matthews but both fights were close and both guys are way better than Gouti aren't they?

Most of the rest of the fights i'm only familiar with one guy or neither.

Reneau/GDR price seems about right, both are good strikers but GDR is way bigger, Reneau doesn't have the grappling-based gameplan to trouble GDR but -3xx isn't that appealing either. Reneau did triangle Andrade, but Andrade is way smaller than GDR and GDR is very unlikely to initiate any sort of grappling and i'm not sure Reneau has the strength or wrestling to take her down. I hope Reneau wins though because GDR is a cheat (Holm fight shots after the bell) and a coward (Cyborg fight, even if I can understand her reasons in that Cyborg is a known drug cheat even if she's clean now which is a maybe)

I'm looking forward to the Struve fight, Wilkinson's debut at an Aussie prospect and the possibility of GDR losing and I guess Edwards and Khabilov are both interesting fighters i'd like to see win so that they can fight a top 15 contender next but it's not a hugely interesting card overall.

I remember Struve recently came out after some change in his trainining and looked a lot bigger but also looked a heck of a lot better, Struve is or was a beast at least a qrt or a third more than his previous self.

Might shadow a small play on Struve.

Also on Struve at 2.25.

Think he is much more talented then Volkov but less consistent.
If is comes in without any health/mental issues he should be the favourite.

He was very young in his early UFC fights and still filling out - he was improving, then had the heart issues (around the Hunt fight) that he got fixed with the leaky heart valve or whatever it was, then struggled with mindset/confidence issues for the Nog/Rosholt fights, but seems to have got his aggression back in the last couple fights (Bigfoot, Omielanczuk)

Volkov was abysmal vs past his prime Kongo in Bellator but has improved a bit since, that said Nelson is WAYYYY past his prime and out of shape (I was on Volkov in that fight) and his best win is probably Ivanov back in Bellator. That's an impressive win but I mean Struve beat Miocic a few years ago, they both have some good wins.

I think Struve's 2013-2015 was a mid career aberration to some degree, a combination of health issues, tough matchups etc, he was looking great in 2012, his career went off the rails and he seems to be getting some of that aggression from early in his career back after the horrible Rosholt loss in the fight where nothing happened

It's been a long layoff for Struve again though 11 months so anything is possible - physically he should be in the best shape he's been in post-heart condition, he's filled out to be a truly huge guy who cuts weight to get to 265 now without being fat because he's 7' tall so all of the size and weight is useful. Volkov while tall is actually a fairly skinny HW so Struve will have height, muscle mass and reach over him which should help given Volkov's best chance is to outstrike him and he'll have to get inside his range to do that and also avoid being taken to the mat where Struve will dominate him if it goes there. I actually wouldn't be surprised to see Struve submit him here, I may actually take that prop because of how bad Volkov's ground game is - Struve could even confidently pull guard if he feels threatened on the feet and work for triangles or a sweep because it's 5 rounds so it's unlikely to go the distance anyway.

If Struve dwarfs Volkov at the weigh ins (I mean more muscle mass wise, he's obviously taller although Volkov is taller than most Struve opponents) I may end up going big on him, if I had to set the line myself i'd say Struve is more like a -133 range favourite and i'm annoyed at myself for not taking the +130 early.

At the end of the day Rosholt is the only bad loss on Struve's record and that was the final fight in his mid career health issues/mindset issues slump.

Volkov doesn't really have any horrible losses in his Bellator/UFC run either, although I just don't think his ceiling is as high as Struve's is. I mean, I could actually see Struve being the champ one day as unlikely as that is and there's no chance Volkov could be (I do get that Miocic has improved way more since their first fight, but I can see Struve beating anyone except probably a healthy Cain Velasquez on a good day and even then he'd be live to triangle him from the bottom or something). I'm not saying it'll happen or anything but I don't think it's impossible especially if he can improve his jab and striking defense which is something everyone's wanted him to do forever.

I hope Struve wins mostly because with the exception of his mid-career slump fights (and the Hunt fight was good too there), his fights are always really exciting. His only outright bad fights were Overeem and Rosholt in the UFC and assuming he's fixed whatever his mindset issues were for good, if his chin doesn't go completely he's only 29 which makes him one of the youngest HWs on the roster and he's already an 18 fight veteran in the UFC and his body has only just reached its peak, it's a matter of whether his chin can hold up and he can continue to improve and evolve as a fighter whether he'll become a legit top 10 HW or have his chin cracked for good and career wind up early for a HW. Im really cheering for him to make it happen though he's been my favourite HW since I became a UFC fan way back in 2009ish

28 Aug 2017
Single £160.00

Struve, Stefan @ 5/4 (Fight Prices)

Event: Struve v Volkov
Est. Return: £360.00



This is like same body type vs same body type,
I don't see any ting special in Volkov when inspecting the nelson fight, he looks low on power actually,

Struve has got a chin with his previous fight vs a smaller explosive polish fighter, who landing a tidy left (on him struve) that didn't phase him. Also note the ground finsh.

Struve is a lot of fighter with a lot of experience and a lot of focus right now, I agree he could be champ one day (that's a good point).


Struve looks a little slow but that's because he is up at 280lb

Struve I think we can put down as master of distance at this point, punches did get in behind his defence in his last fight but that was vs a different kind of fighter.

same body size type fighter vs him, this is his bread and butter no~?

Struve by early 3rd round KO, the Russian will try to stand and bang his way out of trouble.

Troubled by my lack of going back and watching all available tape, don't have the time. Also ideally as learnt before, we try to place the majority of our bets at weigh in to just get a nice little read more about our fighters.


Watching the weigh in does give a little read to help shape our bets and would recommend it,

that said, I'm on Skyscraper!

Lets go get that money on Saturday night MMA thread!