The more common route is just to overturn the result to a no contest isn't it?

What the "official" result of the fight becomes and what the UFC does with the belt might be two different things though. I can see them putting the belt back on Cormier regardless of whether it's declared a no-contest or a DQ victory.

USADA has taken the interesting step of making an official statement saying "don't jump to conclusions"... and I could be wrong, but I don't recall them ever doing that before?!? https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/8/2...bout-jon-jones

Certainly seems weird that he'd pass all the pre-fight tests and then fail the fight night one, when he knows he's definitely going to be tested. Jones is many things, and I'm more than willing to believe at this point that he's been abusing PEDs for most of his career. But I'd be surprised if he was stupid enough to fail a test in this way...

Just max bet Connor won't throw a kick -2000. Small payout but feel like its literally a 100% lock

just an observation, but a lot of people get paid next Friday (months end etc).
Where as this weekend is a week out from pay day.


Just seems to me that booking the fight this weekend vs doing it next Saturday is dumb as ***


Example:

Standard joe is totally skint and has little money but if fight was next Saturday he would have plenty of money for the PPV, plenty of money for a small wager..

you book this fight for when every one is flush with cash which for a large amount of people on the global is months end, and yes I know some corporates pay mid month (15th etc).

strange for such logistically brilliant people trying to eeek out as much money as possible.


By booking the fight "early", in the month but towards the months end, they could be losing quite a few people.

Sorry to advertise the fact bunch of people are bumping up and down on the payslip to payslip.


Ref needs to be a boxing ref with mma experience imo because connor might go on tilt and axe kick Mayweather after he runs into the wall.

It depends on Mayweather, because obviously post 6th round he is going to have the opportunity to absolutely CLOWN face Connor, but Connor is always going to have the ability to snap Mayweathers (insert important part of the body here)..

Connor can very easily go crazy in the cage "to save face", and show how bull (crazy) and big a man he is.

Who is to say he can stick to boxing more than a few rounds, has he done it before recently, and he is in with who on Saturday.

There are a few ways out for connor no, one is by way of KO in the 1st round and what are the others.


Do you think Connor would pick bullying Mayweather in the later part of the fight over getting live embarsed in the most stupid way possible in front of the world?

AXE KICK to Mayweathers dome is an option here

lolz,

boxing has more "skillful finesse", it matters, adds up, and counts a **** ton, here is going to be a huge disparity , leaping in post the crazy antics in the 1st and 2nd is just not going to cut it.


Connor better ktfo Money sharpish never letting up till he has the KO in the 1st because he is in a world of hurt once human(capability's) reality's settle in.

Conor won't throw a kick there's a 100% chance that Floyd built into the contract terms that if Conor uses any non-boxing techniques he'll forfeit his purse/face assault charges etc to prevent that, otherwise when Conor's being humiliated via boxing why wouldn't he just head kick him, grab the mic, tell Floyd and the audience MMA is a superior sport and to tune into the UFC to watch real fighting and walk off with his 100m+

Conor will lose his purse or at least a large chunk of it if he's DQ'd for illegal techniques surely

probably a safe bet but I am kinda expecting a leg kick to spook floyd not necessarily to actually connect and get DQ. Like maybe in early rounds he throws a kick as a joke to show off.

Erm... what?!?

A lot of people around the world get paid weekly or fortnightly too, or even daily. The announced the fight months in advance. If people want to spend money on it they've had loads of time to put it aside. I don't see the fact that it's a few days before the end of the month having any kind of impact on anything.

As for the ref needing to be someone with MMA experience... why?!? This is a boxing match, being contested under boxing rules. It's been widely publicised that there are conditions in McGregor's contract where he gets fined a huge sum out of his purse if he throws kicks or other illegal MMA-style strikes. Conor loves money, he's not going to be dumb enough to give it away. And even if he was that dumb, why would you need an MMA ref to recognise that something is against the rules of boxing?

was thinking the same, from far out, so it never lands.

Actually no idea whether that is legal, to just do an air leg kick from way out with zero intentions of landing it? I would think that it's not allowed.

Super late but the kick talk reminded me, I wondered how many people lost $$ on the touch gloves prop for JJ and D.C.? I was surprised.

Swoop - you once mentioned in this thread working for a either a pro placing bets or for a bookie cant quite recall.
Can you shed light on this, interested in hearing stories about the type of work, and possible employer.

Could be an internal reference to my own degen spend / gamble money routine from youth and rememberance of money being available end / start of month, but yeah your right mr oz :-)

caught this earlier and gives a calibration of what Connor is doing...

Bolded gives food for thought..


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/mma/2017/...huge-mismatch/

Paul Daley - an MMA fighter who has spent hundreds of hours during his 15-year career sparring with boxers - believes the proposed Floyd Mayweather boxing match with Conor McGregor is a "huge mismatch". Daly is preparing for his fight with*Rory MacDonald in the headline event at Bellator 179 at Wembley Arena on Friday. But he admitted that McGregor's fanbase are so adoring of the fight star that they are "sold on" the event.*
"Most definitely it's a mismatch," Daley told The Telegraph. "It's been done well because McGregor fans are sold on the whole concept but you're talking about one of the best boxers of our time, who has defeated some of the best boxers of our time. Oscar De La Hoya, Miguel Cotto, Canelo Alvarez, Manny Pacquiao.

"Those four names there McGregor wouldn't even last three rounds with, let alone the guy who has defeated them all," said Daley, a self-confessed fight fan who has had over 90 kickboxing and MMA fights combined.

"Boxing is completely different to MMA. McGregor should get in there with a top three British fighter in his weight and see how he fares. I think if he jumps in with the best boxer of our era, it's a huge mismatch. I can't fault McGregor when there's so much money involved. But I think if the fight should happen it will be, as Mayweather says, easy work for him."*

Daley revealed his times in the ring with boxers. "I've sparred with the British army boxing team early on in this camp. Not even the Olympic team. And they are at such an elite level that it was extremely difficult for me. Admittedly, I lost every round. I wasn't humiliated in any way, but they are boxers and this is what they do day in, day out."
"That's just the British army team, let alone your Olympic team, let alone a British or European or world champion. And then Mayweather. I've been sparring boxers from the beginning of my career, guys like Ovill McKenzie, Rendall Munroe, recently Frank Buglioni. I've sparred all these guys and I know my place and my place isn't in a boxing ring with these guys."
"McGregor must be extremely confident to think he can beat or even challenge the best boxer of our time. It's crazy."


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Checking odds checker and seeing 3/1, or 2/5 on does fight go the distance no...
Floyd Mayweather Jr v Conor McGregor - Will Fight Go The Distance? Betting Odds
https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/f...o-the-distance


People are going to look back on this event as free money.

There is braggadocio (spelling?) and then there is reality, 12rds with no place to go with Mayweather leagues out of your depth,

What is even the formulated approach to this betting situation, I see does not go the distance as a lock of all locks.

Diaz tripped Connors chin and rightly corrected by a non KO artist Diaz (not overly powerfull).


Your in there, conor is going to get tired, pacing yourself vs MMA is different than boxing, Mayweather will rip Connors body some thing horrible.

Even seeing 1/4 Mayweather available.


Crazy interesting event from a betting perspective, I cant think of any thing to measure or reference back from.

Bellator 182 Risk $2022.70

Chidi Njokuani (+275) vs Andrey Koreshkov $200.00 for $550.00
Chidi Njokuani wins inside distance (+480) $25.00 for $120.00
Chidi Njokuani/Andrey Koreshkov Under 2½ (+157) $100.00 for $157.00
Chidi Njokuani/Andrey Koreshkov Under 2½ (+157) $100.00 for $157.00

Brennan Ward (+100) vs Fernando Gonzalez $400.00 for $400.00
Fernando Gonzalez (-108) vs Brennan Ward ~$132.00 for ~$122.22

Blair Tugman (+885) vs AJ McKee Jr. $50.00 for $442.50

Bruna Ellen (+165) vs Veta Arteaga $100.00 for $165.00
Bruna Ellen wins by 3 round decision (+275) $40.00 for $110.00

Georgi Karakhanyan (-215) vs Daniel Pineda $215.00 for $100.00
Arlene Blencowe/Sinead Kavanagh Under 2½ (+170) $75.00 for $127.50
Ricky Rainey/Marc Stevens Over 2½ (-165) $82.50 for $50.00
Kevin Casey (+265) vs Chris Honeycutt $150.00 for $397.50
Colleen Schneider (-116) vs Kate Jackson ~$136.40 for ~$117.59
Philipe Lins/Vadim Nemkov Over 1½ (-135) $54.00 for $40.00
Talita Nogueira (-141) vs Amanda Bell ~$162.80 for ~$115.46


Glory 44 Risk $1741.00
Murthel Groenhart (+185) vs Cedric Doumbe $100.00 for $185.00
Murthel Groenhart (+185) vs Cedric Doumbe $100.00 for $185.00
Murthel Groenhart/Cedric Doumbe Over 4½ (-185) $185.00 for $100.00
Richard Abraham/Daniel Morales Over 2½ (-190) $76.00 for $40.00
Karim Benmansour (+145) vs Harut Grigorian $100.00 for $145.00
Antoine Pinto/Zach Bunnel Under 2½ (-110) $110.00 for $100.00
Antoine Pinto/Zach Bunnel Under 2½ (-130) $130.00 for $100.00
Tiffany van Soest/Meryem Uslu Under 4½ (+150) $100.00 for $150.00
Michal Turynski (+362) vs Catalin Morosanu ~$30.80 for ~$111.50
Dustin Jacoby (-244) vs Sean Choice ~$290.40 for ~$119.02
Robert Thomas (-102) vs Warren Thompson ~$118.80 for ~$116.47

Parlay:
Tiffany van Soest (-855) vs Meryem Uslu + Antoine Pinto (-705) vs Zach Bunnel $400.00 for $110.16

Has to deduct a point or dq to lose. Bet is literally free money.
Obviously super small winnings, but I think not max betting it is like saying no to free money.

Also Dana just said to take no DQ bets to the bookies. Connor could lose entire purse + get sued.

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This line is really off on BM! Added:

Kevin Casey (+400) vs Chris Honeycutt $100.00 for $400.00

Mayweather (149.5) and McGregor (153) make weight for Saturday bout

I just sportsbet for myself now. Basically just read the market to beat closing lines in soft markets. I only handicap a couple niche sports myself. I've never worked for a bookie although I did partner with a pro sportsbettor prior to getting into it myself.

Edit:

What is ever body's actual betting approach this this spectacle?

https://youtu.be/ImU-Waht-HQ

Floyd to bet on himself.

Conor wasn't very convincing when Megan asked his mystic mac prediction after the weigh in's. t was a very fast 1st round KO and he basically walked off straight away. Not sure if he was just tired and wanted to leave or he simply does not believe it at all.

Mayweather alive with a spring in his step.

"girl collection ftw!"

Without giving too much away, what sport(s) was the pro working on? Were they using models or good old fashion form/pricing?

I have Floyd straight up -375 average, Floyd TKO at -135 (annoyingly -130s available now but w/e) and a small prop on Floyd by doctor stoppage/corner stoppage +600

I have enough on Floyd that i'm happy if he wins by TKO (and I make a small loss if he wins by dec) and as an MMA fan I guess i'll be annoyed to lose my bets but happy for Conor and the sport if he can pull off the miracle

Combination of the two, and mostly the Australian football codes NRL/AFL/Union. Mostly form/pricing based and some reading the market to beat closers. I learned what I needed to and went off on my own on good terms and i'm doing better owndiming than having a share of the action working with the guy, so happy with the decision. He was profitable but wasn't an end boss or anything.

I had a solid double digit ROI (15%+) this Rugby 7s season using my own capping/model which was mostly observation based, but I don't really cap my own stuff anymore other than MMA for fun which i'm roughly breakeven at and 7s where it's hard to get more than a couple k down per game. Other than that I just read the market to get profitable lines that beat closers as my locals are let's say not sharp. Had very good Rugby League and Union seasons, less so with afl, and i've had a great run in the T20 cricket series this year as well. My locals are super slow on NFL lines too and often don't price 2.5/3.5 and 6.5/7.5 points correctly so hoping for a good NFL season coming up. One of the books is particularly soft/slow to move on NBA totals too which is nice. Basically i'm not going to be an end boss any time soon doing what I do but i'm making more money than I did when I used to play poker full time so I can't complain.

As most of the sharp guys on the forum say it's harder to have outs after a certain point to get action down than it is to actually identify the profitable spots although I have a pretty good network to do that which helps.

Soo are boxing prelims usually this much fun?